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  1. "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de :
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    benjo maso said:
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    > Who knows? As result of a posting to rbr I once got an personal e-mail from an former
    > worldchampion ...

    Lance??

    No, in that case I would have said a TDF-winner :-)

    Intriguing. Looking at the list I would say Kuiper (may have already used e-mail back in Motorola
    days) or maybe Museeuw (writes on his own site regularly, reads Dutch so may have known you from
    your books) or Criq (old enough to be interested in historic questions, not too old for internet).
    I doubt the Italians, Frenchmen and Spaniards speak English well enough to be interested in rbr.

    Only French NON-world champions -

    very humbly ...
    --
    Sandy Paris FR

  2. "Ewoud Dronkert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Intriguing. Looking at the list

    Ah, but what list? Somehow I only looked at the pro men road world champions... Could be track,
    women, amateurs, juniors, the list is endless :/ OK, final guess: Danny Nelissen.

    No, it he is a man, he has been worldchampion professionals and he wrote in Dutch, so it can
    be anybody between Middelkamp (not very likely, I admit) and Museeuw. But because it's not a
    quiz .... :-)

    Benjo Maso

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    Sam, glad to be back after a bit of a hiatus. "benjo maso" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "benjo maso" <[email hidden]> wrote in message -"]news:[email hidden]-
    berlin.de...

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    Mr. Bush won't give mony for bicycling in Europe. I'm afraid he was


    only

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    thionking of football, basketball, baseball and perhaps athletics.

    Wait until there's a Democrat in the White House. Then Bush will have


    time

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    to devote to being the WADA drug Czar.

    Yes, but at that time he can't invade Europe because there might be performance enhancing products
    somewhere.

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    > Controls need tightening. The testing needs to be a complete


    surprise

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    and out of competition.

    Yes, but how?

    Other sports are testing out of competition all the time--Swimming and


    Track

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    & Field come to mind.

    Also in bicycling racing. But I heard from some very reliable sources that "unannounced" is a
    joke. I don't know how it is in swimming or athletics.


    when it comes to USADA, unannounced means unannounced. Ask American athletes how often when
    they are tested out of competition, they know it. Heck, some get tested by WADA as well as
    USADA within days. Athletes are routinely awakened at 0630 (the best time in many cases) for
    OOC testing.

    You seem to see conspiracies when in most cases the simplest answer is closest to the truth.

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    (snip)

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    Specialists like Ferrari or Conconi will always find a way to duck all


    kind

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    of tests.

    There will always be cheaters. (But Lance swears Ferrari is straight).

    Yes, but bicycle racing has it own jargon. "Clean" has a quite different meaning, probably
    "straight' as well. Ferrari once said in an expansive mood: "In my opinion riders are allowed to
    take products that can't be detected".

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    He is far from being the first to say things like that. But until now


    the

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    effects of all those words have been minmal.

    Seriously, they all lurk at rbr--even Lance.

    Who knows? As result of a posting to rbr I once got an personal e-mail


    from

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    an former worldchampion ...

    Benjo Maso

  4. Ewoud Dronkert wrote

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    for internet). I doubt the Italians, Frenchmen and Spaniards speak English well enough to be
    interested in rbr.

    I heard Freire had communication problems in Rabobank. I doubt he's learned both Dutch and English
    in a year. Astarloa is not a former world champ. That only leaves Indurain (ITT world champ, but he
    is also a Tour winner) and Olano (not known internet interests).

    Jenko, understands English better than French

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