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"Tom G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Cd6Od.327448$8l.271372@pd7tw1no...
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For me, I would much rather bring my cholesterol numbers down through diet and exercise, rather than drugs. Most doctors probably would have
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opinion to nip a slight increase in the bud by prescribing drugs early.
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may not see too many people bring their levels down. Since only a very
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are successful at keeping the weight off, they probably only see numbers that continue to get worse by age and weight increase. Understandable
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that point of view.
I think my dr was shocked. I changed my diet to get my blood sugar down
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within a month my cholesterol changed enough that she assumed it was
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of the statin she had prescribed (that I didn't take.) But my cholesterol was already good, which is one reason I hadn't taken the statin.
My doctor still sticks with the notion that eating low fat is the correct answer. He's amazed of my claim of eating high fat/low carb has helped to lower my cholesterol. Whenever I got it checked before, I was given pamphlets from the heart assoc. about how lowering fat intake may help to reduce cholesterol. I told him it's the high amount of refined carbs people are eating rather than the amount of fat consumed. I hope he does some reading.
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:36:02 -0600, None Given <[email hidden]>
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"Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > bottled salad dressings > with olive oil, vinegar and herbs. I think I will use that for my > veggies instead of the usual pat of butter, also. The other "red
flag"
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> I > can remove is the steak-um roll -up I'll have a few days a week. I
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> to > thinking about the hardened grease on my counter top grill after
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up > a serving...yuck.
There is little to no evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease. Really. See, for instance:
I agree. I'm still trying to read more to be sure. I don't limit saturated fat in my own diet. My cholesterol numbers are good.
This is a good website Bob. It has a lot more info than is evident on the first page. I know you have posted this link before in other discussions of cholesterol. Thanks.
You're right that there is a lot of info. that's not on the website. While I'm not really sure whether saturated fat is a factor in heart disease, at least the people on that website are willing to say that saturated fat (and total cholesterol) might not be a factor in heart disease. Speaking of heart disease, has anyone seen this:
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:36:02 -0600, None Given <[email hidden]> wrote:
> "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> bottled salad dressings >> with olive oil, vinegar and herbs. I think I will use that for my >> veggies instead of the usual pat of butter, also. The other "red flag" >> I >> can remove is the steak-um roll -up I'll have a few days a week. I got >> to >> thinking about the hardened grease on my counter top grill after
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> up >> a serving...yuck.
There is little to no evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease. Really. See, for instance:
I agree. I'm still trying to read more to be sure. I don't limit saturated fat in my own diet. My cholesterol numbers are good.
This is a good website Bob. It has a lot more info than is evident on the first page. I know you have posted this link before in other discussions of cholesterol. Thanks.
You're right that there is a lot of info. that's not on the website. While I'm not really sure whether saturated fat is a factor in heart disease, at least the people on that website are willing to say that saturated fat (and total cholesterol) might not be a factor in heart disease. Speaking of heart disease, has anyone seen this:
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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:36:02 -0600, None Given <[email hidden]> wrote:
> "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> bottled salad dressings >> with olive oil, vinegar and herbs. I think I will use that for my >> veggies instead of the usual pat of butter, also. The other "red flag" >> I >> can remove is the steak-um roll -up I'll have a few days a week. I got >> to >> thinking about the hardened grease on my counter top grill after
cooking
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> up >> a serving...yuck.
There is little to no evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease. Really. See, for instance:
I agree. I'm still trying to read more to be sure. I don't limit saturated fat in my own diet. My cholesterol numbers are good.
This is a good website Bob. It has a lot more info than is evident on the first page. I know you have posted this link before in other discussions of cholesterol. Thanks.
You're right that there is a lot of info. that's not on the website.
Actually I meant to say that there was alot more in this site than first meets the eye. It doesn't have a lot of pics and things, so it doesn't look very promising at first glance, until I started exploring all the links. It is actually quite informative, with tons of articles. Re-reading what I said, I guess it could have sounded like I said it was missing too much about other factors. Not true.
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While I'm not really sure whether saturated fat is a factor in heart disease, at least the people on that website are willing to say that saturated fat (and total cholesterol) might not be a factor in heart disease. Speaking of heart disease, has anyone seen this:
"I think my dr was shocked. I changed my diet to get my blood sugar down and within a month my cholesterol changed enough that she assumed it was because of the statin she had prescribed (that I didn't take.) But my cholesterol was already good, which is one reason I hadn't taken the statin. "
If your chol was already good, why did the dr prescribe a statin?
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You're right that there is a lot of info. that's not on the website. While I'm not really sure whether saturated fat is a factor in heart disease, at least the people on that website are willing to say that saturated fat (and total cholesterol) might not be a factor in heart disease. Speaking of heart disease, has anyone seen this:
It's probably not the saturated fat at all, but the skewed ratio of Omega6:Omega3 fatty acids in meat caused by the way most meat animals are fed these days. A diet high in Omega 6 promotes inflammation which probably is a bigger factor in heart disease than cholesterol.
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"I think my dr was shocked. I changed my diet to get my blood sugar down and within a month my cholesterol changed enough that she assumed it was because of the statin she had prescribed (that I didn't take.) But my cholesterol was already good, which is one reason I hadn't taken the statin. "
If your chol was already good, why did the dr prescribe a statin?
Good question, because my sugar was too high (350+) and there are studies saying all diabetics need to be on a statin, even those with normal cholesterol. I did take a quarter of a pill each day for three months after that, but I'm sorry, I don't think it's a good idea for my LDL to be 29, I think my body needs some cholesterol to function right, so I quit taking it again.
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"I think my dr was shocked. I changed my diet to get my blood sugar down and within a month my cholesterol changed enough that she assumed it was because of the statin she had prescribed (that I didn't take.) But my cholesterol was already good, which is one reason I hadn't taken the statin. "
If your chol was already good, why did the dr prescribe a statin?
Good question, because my sugar was too high (350+) and there are studies saying all diabetics need to be on a statin, even those with normal cholesterol. I did take a quarter of a pill each day for three months after that, but I'm sorry, I don't think it's a good idea for my LDL to be 29, I think my body needs some cholesterol to function right, so I quit taking it again.
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: : Will the exercise program bring these numbers down, or am I destined to a : life of low fat dieting, which about right now, I am considering. I want to : lose 10-15 more pounds. : : I'm probably ranting more than anything, I really expected better numbers : than that. : : : -- : Lisa : 208/154/140-145 : High weight in 2004: 228 : Low-carb since June 2004 : : : :
exercise will bring your HDL up and that, as martha would say, "is a good thing"....................... stay on your LC WOE and find some routine exercise that you like and will do. rosie
exercise will bring your HDL up and that, as martha would say, "is a good thing"....................... stay on your LC WOE and find some routine exercise that you like and will do. rosie
I am doubtful that exercise will further improve HDL that is as high as the OP's.
I dunno. I think the OP's was 59. Mine went from 60 to 80something when I started low-carbing. I have no way of knowing if that was from diet, exercise or the combination, but there's definitely a possiblity of improvement.
Martha
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