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  1. Total Cholesterol 226
    HDL 58
    LDL 155
    Trig 66

    I know these numbers are not good, or at least they can be better. Yes, it
    would have helped if I had blood work done right before going low carb, but
    I didn't. The last time I had it checked about 5 years ago the total
    cholesterol number was 172 (I don't remember the breakdown). I was 150 and
    had lost the weight eating low cal, low fat. I had gained back 50+ pounds
    due to not caring, so for all I know, my cholesterol could have been higher
    than today's numbers.

    I have been on low carb (Atkins) for six months, losing 54 pounds. My blood
    pressure has gone down (110/50 from 140/90). My percentages on FitDay
    average 62% fat, 8% carb, 25% protein. I eat 1400-1500 cals a day.

    I admit, I have been inactive, but I am starting a cardio/resistance
    training program at the local hospital tomorrow, working out 3-4 times a
    week. I am seeing my doctor for a follow up in 3 months to have my
    cholesterol checked again.

    Will the exercise program bring these numbers down, or am I destined to a
    life of low fat dieting, which about right now, I am considering. I want to
    lose 10-15 more pounds.

    I'm probably ranting more than anything, I really expected better numbers
    than that.

    --
    Lisa
    208/154/140-145
    High weight in 2004: 228
    Low-carb since June 2004

  2. "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]
    || Total Cholesterol 226
    || HDL 58
    || LDL 155
    || Trig 66
    ||
    || I know these numbers are not good, or at least they can be better.
    || Yes, it would have helped if I had blood work done right before
    || going low carb, but I didn't. The last time I had it checked about
    || 5 years ago the total cholesterol number was 172 (I don't remember
    || the breakdown). I was 150 and had lost the weight eating low cal,
    || low fat. I had gained back 50+ pounds due to not caring, so for all
    || I know, my cholesterol could have been higher than today's numbers.
    ||
    || I have been on low carb (Atkins) for six months, losing 54 pounds.
    || My blood pressure has gone down (110/50 from 140/90). My
    || percentages on FitDay average 62% fat, 8% carb, 25% protein. I eat
    || 1400-1500 cals a day.
    ||
    || I admit, I have been inactive, but I am starting a cardio/resistance
    || training program at the local hospital tomorrow, working out 3-4
    || times a week. I am seeing my doctor for a follow up in 3 months to
    || have my cholesterol checked again.
    ||
    || Will the exercise program bring these numbers down, or am I destined
    || to a life of low fat dieting, which about right now, I am
    || considering. I want to lose 10-15 more pounds.
    ||
    || I'm probably ranting more than anything, I really expected better
    || numbers than that.
    ||
    ||
    || --
    || Lisa
    || 208/154/140-145
    || High weight in 2004: 228
    || Low-carb since June 2004
    ||
    ||
    | Your triglycerides, the deadliest component, will rise on a
    | high-carb lowfat diet. They are manufactured by the liver from excess
    carbohdrates consumed

    --
    Peter
    website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

  3. Hmmm...(yes I went and read) Makes me wonder why the doctor was in such a
    hurry to put me on lipitor. That made me think I had this horrible problem
    on my hands.

    Lisa
    "Ignoramus26468" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The numbers are, at the very least, not bad. Read about "fluffy LDL",
    trigs/HDL ratio, and note your very high HDL.

    i

    On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:30:59 -0600, Lisa <name_at_place_dot_whatever>

    Quoted message said:

    Total Cholesterol 226
    HDL 58
    LDL 155
    Trig 66

  4. They want you on Lipitor because the current thrust is toward there.
    However, the all-cause mortality of statins (of which lipitor is one) is
    about the same as not taking statins. In other words, you might not die
    of heart disease, but you'll die of cancer. Moreover, supposedly
    cholesterol for women doesn't matter much. As Ig noted, you have a pretty
    high HDL.

    Lisa name_at_place_dot_whatever said:

    Hmmm...(yes I went and read) Makes me wonder why the doctor was in such
    a
    hurry to put me on lipitor. That made me think I had this horrible
    problem
    on my hands.

    Lisa
    "Ignoramus26468" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The numbers are, at the very least, not bad. Read about "fluffy LDL",
    trigs/HDL ratio, and note your very high HDL.

    i

    On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 19:30:59 -0600, Lisa <name_at_place_dot_whatever>

    Quoted message said:

    Total Cholesterol 226
    HDL 58
    LDL 155
    Trig 66

    --
    Bob in CT

  5. These are not "bad" numbers. Do not let them put you on any
    anti-cholesterol med for these numbers. You should have them rechecked in
    another six months. The drug reps promise doctors a lot things for
    scripting out their drugs. You do not need meds for these relatively good
    numbers.

    --
    bjgeiger
    "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Total Cholesterol 226
    HDL 58
    LDL 155
    Trig 66

    I know these numbers are not good, or at least they can be better. Yes,
    it would have helped if I had blood work done right before going low carb,
    but I didn't. The last time I had it checked about 5 years ago the total
    cholesterol number was 172 (I don't remember the breakdown). I was 150
    and had lost the weight eating low cal, low fat. I had gained back 50+
    pounds due to not caring, so for all I know, my cholesterol could have
    been higher than today's numbers.

    I have been on low carb (Atkins) for six months, losing 54 pounds. My
    blood
    pressure has gone down (110/50 from 140/90). My percentages on FitDay
    average 62% fat, 8% carb, 25% protein. I eat 1400-1500 cals a day.

    I admit, I have been inactive, but I am starting a cardio/resistance
    training program at the local hospital tomorrow, working out 3-4 times a
    week. I am seeing my doctor for a follow up in 3 months to have my
    cholesterol checked again.

    Will the exercise program bring these numbers down, or am I destined to a
    life of low fat dieting, which about right now, I am considering. I want
    to lose 10-15 more pounds.

    I'm probably ranting more than anything, I really expected better numbers
    than that.

    --
    Lisa
    208/154/140-145
    High weight in 2004: 228
    Low-carb since June 2004

  6. "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Total Cholesterol 226
    HDL 58
    LDL 155
    Trig 66

    I know these numbers are not good, or at least they can be better. Yes,
    it would have helped if I had blood work done right before going low
    carb,but I didn't. The last time I had it checked about 5 years ago the
    totalcholesterol number was 172 (I don't remember the breakdown). I was
    150and had lost the weight eating low cal, low fat. I had gained back
    50+pounds due to not caring, so for all I know, my cholesterol could have
    been higher than today's numbers.

    I have been on low carb (Atkins) for six months, losing 54 pounds. My
    blood
    pressure has gone down (110/50 from 140/90). My percentages on FitDay
    average 62% fat, 8% carb, 25% protein. I eat 1400-1500 cals a day.

    I admit, I have been inactive, but I am starting a cardio/resistance
    training program at the local hospital tomorrow, working out 3-4 times a
    week. I am seeing my doctor for a follow up in 3 months to have my
    cholesterol checked again.

    Will the exercise program bring these numbers down, or am I destined to a
    life of low fat dieting, which about right now, I am considering. I want
    to lose 10-15 more pounds.

    I'm probably ranting more than anything, I really expected better numbers
    than that.

    --Lisa
    208/154/140-145
    High weight in 2004: 228
    Low-carb since June 2004

    What amazes me is that someone loses 54 pounds, drops both systolic and
    diastolic blood pressure by a ton, yet someone wants to put them on
    medication. (Plus, triglycerides are really low.) I think this "you have
    one thing out of alignment, therefore you need to be on medication"
    mentality is just wrong. It makes me wish I'd have gone to medical school.

    --
    Bob in CT

  7. Hi,

    Bob M said:

    What amazes me is that someone loses 54 pounds, drops both systolic
    and diastolic blood pressure by a ton, yet someone wants to put them
    on
    medication. (Plus, triglycerides are really low.) I think this
    "you have one thing out of alignment, therefore you need to be on
    medication"
    mentality is just wrong. It makes me wish I'd have gone to medical
    school.

    What bothers the hell out of me is that there is no statistically
    significant difference in death rates between the treated and control
    groups in Pfizer's own literature for the damn drug. The big picture
    outcome stuff! That ticks me off.

    Take care,
    Carmen
    --
    Please note change in Reply To address carmensrt <at> gmail <dot> com
    Hotmail isn't working and is being abandoned

  8. "marengo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    | Your triglycerides, the deadliest component, will rise on a
    | high-carb lowfat diet. They are manufactured by the liver from excess
    carbohdrates consumed

    --
    Peter
    website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

    I know, I was just saying that out of frustration. Knee-jerk reaction.
    There is no way I'd go back to low fat with all the added sugar. My mom
    started out with high cholesterol, climbed on the Snackwell wagon and ate
    her way to diabetes (after all, it's low fat and I can eat as much as I
    want), and still has high cholesterol.
    I know this is probably more an issue of age (42), nearing menopause, being
    lazy, and hereditary issues, than diet. I have read dietary cholesterol has
    little effect on blood cholesterol. Exercise will lower the numbers.

    Lisa

  9. "Ignoramus6625" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Maybe eating less red meat and dairy and more chicken, fish and nuts
    would improve your cholesterol numbers, even though it is not obvious
    whether those numbers would result in some actual health improvements.

    Looking at what I've been eating (and drinking), there is cream I can cut.
    I'll have one black first thing in the morning, then 2 with a T. cream
    during the day. Funny, I never put anything in my coffee before lc, I got
    to thinking, why should I now? And it's becomming a "habit", and I feel if
    it's something I *have* to have, I shouldn't have it. I'm replacing the
    bottled salad dressings
    with olive oil, vinegar and herbs. I think I will use that for my
    veggies instead of the usual pat of butter, also. The other "red flag" I
    can remove is the steak-um roll -up I'll have a few days a week. I got to
    thinking about the hardened grease on my counter top grill after cooking up
    a serving...yuck. I'll use sliced chicken or turkey instead. And there is
    always fish.

    There are things I can tweak, and it gives me an opportunity to eat even
    better than I have been. This could be a challenge, one I need. Challenges
    are a good thing.

    Quoted message said:


    There are more questions here, than there are answers.

    Quoted message said:

    Good luck, keep us posted.

    Thanks, Ig, it's great to be able to bounce things off others. Yep, it will
    be interesting to see in 3-6 months. Between this and
    working out 3-4 times a week, maybe I'll actually break this up and down
    weight plateau and drop some bf along the way.

    --
    Lisa
    208/154/145-150
    High weight in 2004: 228
    Low-carb since June 2004

    Quoted message said:
  10. Carmen said:

    Hi,

    Bob M said:

    What amazes me is that someone loses 54 pounds, drops both systolic
    and diastolic blood pressure by a ton, yet someone wants to put them
    on
    medication. (Plus, triglycerides are really low.) I think this
    "you have one thing out of alignment, therefore you need to be on
    medication"
    mentality is just wrong. It makes me wish I'd have gone to medical
    school.

    What bothers the hell out of me is that there is no statistically
    significant difference in death rates between the treated and control
    groups in Pfizer's own literature for the damn drug. The big picture
    outcome stuff! That ticks me off.

    Take care,
    Carmen

    That is totally true. The all-cause mortality is unchanged.

    --
    Bob in CT

  11. "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Ignoramus6625" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Maybe eating less red meat and dairy and more chicken, fish and nuts
    would improve your cholesterol numbers, even though it is not obvious
    whether those numbers would result in some actual health improvements.

    Looking at what I've been eating (and drinking), there is cream I can cut.
    I'll have one black first thing in the morning, then 2 with a T. cream
    during the day. Funny, I never put anything in my coffee before lc, I got
    to thinking, why should I now? And it's becomming a "habit", and I feel


    if

    Quoted message said:

    it's something I *have* to have, I shouldn't have it. I'm replacing the
    bottled salad dressings
    with olive oil, vinegar and herbs. I think I will use that for my
    veggies instead of the usual pat of butter, also. The other "red flag" I
    can remove is the steak-um roll -up I'll have a few days a week. I got to
    thinking about the hardened grease on my counter top grill after cooking


    up

    Quoted message said:

    a serving...yuck. I'll use sliced chicken or turkey instead. And there


    is

    Quoted message said:

    always fish.

    This sounds good. I would be interested to hear about your improvements,
    if any, over the next few months.

    Quoted message said:


    There are things I can tweak, and it gives me an opportunity to eat even
    better than I have been. This could be a challenge, one I need.


    Challenges

    Quoted message said:

    are a good thing.

    Your overall numbers don't seem too bad. Trigs are good, and TC/HDL ratio
    is 3.89. Not that bad, and if you have no other risk factors, like family
    history, diabetes, smoking, it's even better. Total Cholesterol is over 200,
    but not way out of line.
    For me, I would much rather bring my cholesterol numbers down through
    diet and exercise, rather than drugs. Most doctors probably would have the
    opinion to nip a slight increase in the bud by prescribing drugs early. They
    may not see too many people bring their levels down. Since only a very few
    are successful at keeping the weight off, they probably only see numbers
    that continue to get worse by age and weight increase. Understandable from
    that point of view.
    My own cholesterol numbers have improved by eating low carb and
    exercising. It was also suggested to me that I should consider cholesterol
    lowering drugs in the past. The advise to me in the mean time was to eat low
    fat and high carb. I had done that for a good many years without results. I
    was astounded by both reading and experience that lowering carb consumption
    actually works to lower cholesterol.
    I have no medical training (other than basic life support), so what I say
    shouldn't be taken as advice.
    Tom
    210/180/180

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    There are more questions here, than there are answers.

    Quoted message said:

    Good luck, keep us posted.

    Thanks, Ig, it's great to be able to bounce things off others. Yep, it


    will

    Quoted message said:

    be interesting to see in 3-6 months. Between this and
    working out 3-4 times a week, maybe I'll actually break this up and down
    weight plateau and drop some bf along the way.

    --
    Lisa
    208/154/145-150
    High weight in 2004: 228
    Low-carb since June 2004

    Quoted message said:
  12. "Tom G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:Cd6Od.327448$8l.271372@pd7tw1no...

    Quoted message said:

    For me, I would much rather bring my cholesterol numbers down through
    diet and exercise, rather than drugs. Most doctors probably would have the
    opinion to nip a slight increase in the bud by prescribing drugs early.


    They

    Quoted message said:

    may not see too many people bring their levels down. Since only a very few
    are successful at keeping the weight off, they probably only see numbers
    that continue to get worse by age and weight increase. Understandable from
    that point of view.

    I think my dr was shocked. I changed my diet to get my blood sugar down and
    within a month my cholesterol changed enough that she assumed it was because
    of the statin she had prescribed (that I didn't take.) But my cholesterol
    was already good, which is one reason I hadn't taken the statin.

    --
    No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

  13. "Tom G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:Cd6Od.327448$8l.271372@pd7tw1no...

    Quoted message said:

    For me, I would much rather bring my cholesterol numbers down through
    diet and exercise, rather than drugs. Most doctors probably would have the
    opinion to nip a slight increase in the bud by prescribing drugs early.


    They

    Quoted message said:

    may not see too many people bring their levels down. Since only a very few
    are successful at keeping the weight off, they probably only see numbers
    that continue to get worse by age and weight increase. Understandable from
    that point of view.

    I think my dr was shocked. I changed my diet to get my blood sugar down and
    within a month my cholesterol changed enough that she assumed it was because
    of the statin she had prescribed (that I didn't take.) But my cholesterol
    was already good, which is one reason I hadn't taken the statin.

    --
    No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

  14. "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    bottled salad dressings
    with olive oil, vinegar and herbs. I think I will use that for my
    veggies instead of the usual pat of butter, also. The other "red flag" I
    can remove is the steak-um roll -up I'll have a few days a week. I got to
    thinking about the hardened grease on my counter top grill after cooking


    up

    Quoted message said:

    a serving...yuck. I'll use sliced chicken or turkey instead. And there


    is

    Quoted message said:

    always fish.

    There are things I can tweak, and it gives me an opportunity to eat even
    better than I have been. This could be a challenge, one I need.


    Challenges

    Quoted message said:

    are a good thing.

    Avocado, olives, walnuts, almonds, macadamias, pecans, peanuts, fish oil
    supplements, flax seed, policosanol, pantethine, psyllium.
    I heard of a book called, '50 ways to lower your cholesterol.'

    --
    No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

  15. "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    bottled salad dressings
    with olive oil, vinegar and herbs. I think I will use that for my
    veggies instead of the usual pat of butter, also. The other "red flag" I
    can remove is the steak-um roll -up I'll have a few days a week. I got to
    thinking about the hardened grease on my counter top grill after cooking


    up

    Quoted message said:

    a serving...yuck. I'll use sliced chicken or turkey instead. And there


    is

    Quoted message said:

    always fish.

    There are things I can tweak, and it gives me an opportunity to eat even
    better than I have been. This could be a challenge, one I need.


    Challenges

    Quoted message said:

    are a good thing.

    Avocado, olives, walnuts, almonds, macadamias, pecans, peanuts, fish oil
    supplements, flax seed, policosanol, pantethine, psyllium.
    I heard of a book called, '50 ways to lower your cholesterol.'

    --
    No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

  16. On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:36:02 -0600, None Given <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    bottled salad dressings
    with olive oil, vinegar and herbs. I think I will use that for my
    veggies instead of the usual pat of butter, also. The other "red flag"
    I
    can remove is the steak-um roll -up I'll have a few days a week. I got
    to
    thinking about the hardened grease on my counter top grill after cooking


    up

    Quoted message said:

    a serving...yuck.

    There is little to no evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease.
    Really. See, for instance:

    http://www.thincs.org/

    Quoted message said:

    I'll use sliced chicken or turkey instead. And there
    is

    Quoted message said:

    always fish.

    There are things I can tweak, and it gives me an opportunity to eat even
    better than I have been. This could be a challenge, one I need.


    Challenges

    Quoted message said:

    are a good thing.

    Avocado, olives, walnuts, almonds, macadamias, pecans, peanuts, fish oil
    supplements, flax seed, policosanol, pantethine, psyllium.
    I heard of a book called, '50 ways to lower your cholesterol.'

    Ditto.

    --
    Bob in CT

  17. On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:36:02 -0600, None Given <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    bottled salad dressings
    with olive oil, vinegar and herbs. I think I will use that for my
    veggies instead of the usual pat of butter, also. The other "red flag"
    I
    can remove is the steak-um roll -up I'll have a few days a week. I got
    to
    thinking about the hardened grease on my counter top grill after cooking


    up

    Quoted message said:

    a serving...yuck.

    There is little to no evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease.
    Really. See, for instance:

    http://www.thincs.org/

    Quoted message said:

    I'll use sliced chicken or turkey instead. And there
    is

    Quoted message said:

    always fish.

    There are things I can tweak, and it gives me an opportunity to eat even
    better than I have been. This could be a challenge, one I need.


    Challenges

    Quoted message said:

    are a good thing.

    Avocado, olives, walnuts, almonds, macadamias, pecans, peanuts, fish oil
    supplements, flax seed, policosanol, pantethine, psyllium.
    I heard of a book called, '50 ways to lower your cholesterol.'

    Ditto.

    --
    Bob in CT

  18. "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:36:02 -0600, None Given <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    bottled salad dressings
    with olive oil, vinegar and herbs. I think I will use that for my
    veggies instead of the usual pat of butter, also. The other "red flag"
    I
    can remove is the steak-um roll -up I'll have a few days a week. I got
    to
    thinking about the hardened grease on my counter top grill after


    cooking

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    up

    Quoted message said:

    a serving...yuck.

    There is little to no evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease.
    Really. See, for instance:

    I agree. I'm still trying to read more to be sure. I don't limit
    saturated fat in my own diet. My cholesterol numbers are good.

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.thincs.org/

    This is a good website Bob. It has a lot more info than is evident on the
    first page. I know you have posted this link before in other discussions of
    cholesterol. Thanks.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I'll use sliced chicken or turkey instead. And there
    is

    Quoted message said:

    always fish.

    There are things I can tweak, and it gives me an opportunity to eat


    even

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    better than I have been. This could be a challenge, one I need.


    Challenges

    Quoted message said:

    are a good thing.

    Avocado, olives, walnuts, almonds, macadamias, pecans, peanuts, fish oil
    supplements, flax seed, policosanol, pantethine, psyllium.
    I heard of a book called, '50 ways to lower your cholesterol.'

    Ditto.

    --
    Bob in CT

  19. "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:36:02 -0600, None Given <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Lisa" <name_at_place_dot_whatever> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    bottled salad dressings
    with olive oil, vinegar and herbs. I think I will use that for my
    veggies instead of the usual pat of butter, also. The other "red flag"
    I
    can remove is the steak-um roll -up I'll have a few days a week. I got
    to
    thinking about the hardened grease on my counter top grill after


    cooking

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    up

    Quoted message said:

    a serving...yuck.

    There is little to no evidence that saturated fat causes heart disease.
    Really. See, for instance:

    I agree. I'm still trying to read more to be sure. I don't limit
    saturated fat in my own diet. My cholesterol numbers are good.

    Quoted message said:


    http://www.thincs.org/

    This is a good website Bob. It has a lot more info than is evident on the
    first page. I know you have posted this link before in other discussions of
    cholesterol. Thanks.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I'll use sliced chicken or turkey instead. And there
    is

    Quoted message said:

    always fish.

    There are things I can tweak, and it gives me an opportunity to eat


    even

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    better than I have been. This could be a challenge, one I need.


    Challenges

    Quoted message said:

    are a good thing.

    Avocado, olives, walnuts, almonds, macadamias, pecans, peanuts, fish oil
    supplements, flax seed, policosanol, pantethine, psyllium.
    I heard of a book called, '50 ways to lower your cholesterol.'

    Ditto.

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    Bob in CT

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    "Tom G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    For me, I would much rather bring my cholesterol numbers down through
    diet and exercise, rather than drugs. Most doctors probably would have


    the

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    opinion to nip a slight increase in the bud by prescribing drugs early.


    They

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    may not see too many people bring their levels down. Since only a very


    few

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    are successful at keeping the weight off, they probably only see numbers
    that continue to get worse by age and weight increase. Understandable


    from

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    that point of view.

    I think my dr was shocked. I changed my diet to get my blood sugar down


    and

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    within a month my cholesterol changed enough that she assumed it was


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    of the statin she had prescribed (that I didn't take.) But my cholesterol
    was already good, which is one reason I hadn't taken the statin.

    My doctor still sticks with the notion that eating low fat is the
    correct answer. He's amazed of my claim of eating high fat/low carb has
    helped to lower my cholesterol. Whenever I got it checked before, I was
    given pamphlets from the heart assoc. about how lowering fat intake may help
    to reduce cholesterol. I told him it's the high amount of refined carbs
    people are eating rather than the amount of fat consumed. I hope he does
    some reading.

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