NoCom equals No BentRiderOnline

[[email protected]]

There's a posting elsewhere that Bryan Ball has on his website about
this, but I thought it should be said right up front.

Johnny NoCom is not affiliated with BentRiderOnline.

For whatever of the apparantly many sick purposes Johnny NoCom has, he
decided to make that website look like part of his name.
Regards,

Slow Joe Recumbo

 

[skip]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> There's a posting elsewhere that Bryan Ball has on his website about
> this, but I thought it should be said right up front.
>
> Johnny NoCom is not affiliated with BentRiderOnline.
>
> For whatever of the apparantly many sick purposes Johnny NoCom has, he
> decided to make that website look like part of his name.
> Regards,
>
> Slow Joe Recumbo
>

Are you trying to tell us Johnny NoCom *isn't* the American Low Racer
Editor for BentRiderOnline?

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[Tom Sherman]

[email protected] wrote:

> There's a posting elsewhere that Bryan Ball has on his website about
> this, but I thought it should be said right up front.
>
> Johnny NoCom is not affiliated with BentRiderOnline....

Really? Thanks for telling me.

--
Tom Sherman - Rock Island County Illinois
Tetrahedral carbon lattices are not forever.

 

[Ken the Troll]

This is what is posted on BROL concerning Johnny NoCom"

"If any of you still frequent the alt.rec.bicycles.recumbents
newsgroup, you will notice that someone is posting some pretty nasty
stuff under the name Johnny NoCom. I normally could care less but this
person has decided to put this web site as his home page and listed his
e-mail address as a fake one on my server. The offender decided to
cross-post to another newsgroup full of people who don't know me that
well and it's escalated to the point where people have supposedly been
e-mailing sponsors (although I haven't heard anything of it yet).
Please rest assured that NO ONE at 'BentRider has anything to do with
this but we know who did and we are deciding on how to proceed now. I
regret that this has come to a point where I had to make a public
statement about it."

That is from BROL's Adminstrator

 

[[email protected]]

Tom Sherman wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > There's a posting elsewhere that Bryan Ball has on his website
about
> > this, but I thought it should be said right up front.
> >
> > Johnny NoCom is not affiliated with BentRiderOnline....
>
> Really? Thanks for telling me.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Rock Island County Illinois
> Tetrahedral carbon lattices are not forever.

No problem Tom. I wouldn't want you to harRANS me after all.
:O)

Slow Joe

 

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"Ken the Troll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is what is posted on BROL concerning Johnny NoCom"
>
> "If any of you still frequent the alt.rec.bicycles.recumbents
> newsgroup, you will notice that someone is posting some pretty nasty
> stuff under the name Johnny NoCom. I normally could care less but this
> person has decided to put this web site as his home page and listed his
> e-mail address as a fake one on my server. The offender decided to
> cross-post to another newsgroup full of people who don't know me that
> well and it's escalated to the point where people have supposedly been
> e-mailing sponsors (although I haven't heard anything of it yet).
> Please rest assured that NO ONE at 'BentRider has anything to do with
> this but we know who did and we are deciding on how to proceed now. I
> regret that this has come to a point where I had to make a public
> statement about it."
>
> That is from BROL's Adminstrator
>

Yeah Ken, I couldn't stop myself from checking out the brol message board to
see what all the excitement was about. Apparently the Managing Director of
brol, Bryan B. Ball is in the process of deciding on exactly how to deal
with the villainous Mr. NoCom. He could do as one of his posters suggests
and let a "group of BROL members hire an Internet investigator to find this
guy". The poster goes on to suggest that "the best way to bring an end to
their hooded abuse is to publish the person's name, address and a photo".
Maybe brol posters would then send invitations the neighbors of Mr. NoCom
inviting them over to Johnny's house for a big politically incorrect
Christmas Party and order pizza for the group. That ought teach the boy not
to mess with brol and serve him right too.

If somehow that doesn't do the trick Mr. Bryan could follow another posters
advice and "submit an internet abuse claim via the FBI's electronic fraud
site to put the Feds on the moron". Some hard time in solitary confinemen
for silly Johnny will surely bring peace mind to brol posters as they would
know for sure JohnnyNoCom has finally been moderated.

skip
P.S. Jon Meinecke also kind enough to add his moderator's expertise, but his
suggestion for getting Johnny's ISP cancelled for "term of use" was
obviously far to insipid for the boiling broler brothers to consider.

 

[Jon Meinecke]

"skip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> Yeah Ken, I couldn't stop myself from checking out the brol
> message board to see what all the excitement was about.
> [...] Bryan B. Ball is in the process of deciding on exactly how
> to deal with the villainous Mr. NoCom. [...]

More malicious than villainous... Using a name that implies
a relationship to a business may constitute fraud,-- though
how actionable such behavior is on a newsgroup is debatable.

> P.S. Jon Meinecke also kind enough to add his moderator's expertise,
> but his suggestion for getting Johnny's ISP cancelled for "term of use"
> was obviously far to insipid for the boiling broler brothers to consider.

"[too] insipid" -- Hey! I resemble that remark! %^)

Actually Bryan's public reaction has been very moderated, IMO.
He has chosen to avoid escalating, by in large, even though he
suggests he has good idea who "rich/johnny" is. As I suggested,
Bryan has perhaps the best basis for complaint against this
poser/poster.

The thresholds various ISPs have for enforcing their policies vary.
The more black and white the issue, the more likely they are to
sanction a subscriber. And no, this is not about censorship. It's
about accountability for behavior and commercial contract between
the ISP and subscriber.

As to moderator's expertise, I assert none. I simply note the
obvious, sometimes the subtleties. After USENET interactions
across nigh two decades, I'm sometimes nostalgic for the days
when the people you got your newsfeed from knew you personally,--
before ISP's, before the ' I ' in ISP... Can you say UUCP?

I had to chuckle at "B. Lafferty's" assertion the bent community
should "police" our own kind. As though anyone (except ISPs
and news server operators) can control posts to unmoderated
USENET newsgroups, much less some broadly unconnected
a collection of diverse people as the "bent community".

Heck, the high apparatchiks of the recumbent community
can't even agree on the best location of steering controls,
frame materials, seat height, crank height, the best size of,
the right distance between, or even the correct *count* of
wheels! %^)

As to people checking back in on ARBR to see the current
state, there's always hope that civility may obtain again...
Nobody's holding their breath, though.

Jon Meinecke
net.subtle-apteryx

 

[Joshua Goldberg]

Tom

I forgot his name, but wasn't there a moron who writes messages almost
exactly the same way
as Johnny NoCom about 8 months ago, used an Italian name with a Canadian ISP
address. He managed to be far more annoying than Edward Dolan and then he
vanished. Am wondering if this is the same twit.

Joshua
******
"Tom Sherman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> There's a posting elsewhere that Bryan Ball has on his website about
>> this, but I thought it should be said right up front.
>>
>> Johnny NoCom is not affiliated with BentRiderOnline....
>
> Really? Thanks for telling me.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Rock Island County Illinois
> Tetrahedral carbon lattices are not forever.
>

 

[Kurt Fischer]

Joshua Goldberg <[email protected]> wrote:

> I forgot his name, but wasn't there a moron who writes messages almost
> exactly the same way
> as Johnny NoCom about 8 months ago, used an Italian name with a Canadian ISP
> address. He managed to be far more annoying than Edward Dolan and then he
> vanished. Am wondering if this is the same twit.

Not very likely. I suspect you're refering to Fabrizio Mazzoleni.
According to his words he wouldn't want to be caught dead on a
recumbent, not to say a low racer. He used to be very constant and
predictable in his anti-bent attitude and as far as I can remember he
didn't use a Mac, as Jonny NoCom does.

Kurt

 

[Tom Sherman]

Jon Meinecke wrote:

> ...
> Actually Bryan's public reaction has been very moderated, IMO.
> He has chosen to avoid escalating, by in large, even though he
> suggests he has good idea who "rich/johnny" is....

Bryan knows where Elvis is hiding?

--
Tom Sherman - Rock Island County Illinois
Tetrahedral carbon lattices are not forever.

 

[Tom Sherman]

Joshua Goldberg wrote:

> Tom
>
> I forgot his name, but wasn't there a moron who writes messages almost
> exactly the same way
> as Johnny NoCom about 8 months ago, used an Italian name with a Canadian ISP
> address. He managed to be far more annoying than Edward Dolan and then he
> vanished. Am wondering if this is the same twit.

Flabby and Johnny NoCom are definitely different people.

Fabrizio Mazzoleni has not vanished - he was posting on
rec.bicycles.misc as recently as yesterday.

--
Tom Sherman - Rock Island County Illinois
Tetrahedral carbon lattices are not forever.

 

[skip]

"Jon Meinecke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1103312421.897f279892b5a06526e0747756a0611f@teranews...
> "skip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>
>> Yeah Ken, I couldn't stop myself from checking out the brol
>> message board to see what all the excitement was about.
>> [...] Bryan B. Ball is in the process of deciding on exactly how
>> to deal with the villainous Mr. NoCom. [...]
>
> More malicious than villainous... Using a name that implies
> a relationship to a business may constitute fraud,-- though
> how actionable such behavior is on a newsgroup is debatable.
>
>> P.S. Jon Meinecke also kind enough to add his moderator's expertise,
>> but his suggestion for getting Johnny's ISP cancelled for "term of use"
>> was obviously far to insipid for the boiling broler brothers to consider.
>
> "[too] insipid" -- Hey! I resemble that remark! %^)
>
> Actually Bryan's public reaction has been very moderated, IMO.
> He has chosen to avoid escalating, by in large, even though he
> suggests he has good idea who "rich/johnny" is. As I suggested,
> Bryan has perhaps the best basis for complaint against this
> poser/poster.
>
> The thresholds various ISPs have for enforcing their policies vary.
> The more black and white the issue, the more likely they are to
> sanction a subscriber. And no, this is not about censorship. It's
> about accountability for behavior and commercial contract between
> the ISP and subscriber.
>
> As to moderator's expertise, I assert none. I simply note the
> obvious, sometimes the subtleties. After USENET interactions
> across nigh two decades, I'm sometimes nostalgic for the days
> when the people you got your newsfeed from knew you personally,--
> before ISP's, before the ' I ' in ISP... Can you say UUCP?
>
> I had to chuckle at "B. Lafferty's" assertion the bent community
> should "police" our own kind. As though anyone (except ISPs
> and news server operators) can control posts to unmoderated
> USENET newsgroups, much less some broadly unconnected
> a collection of diverse people as the "bent community".
>
> Heck, the high apparatchiks of the recumbent community
> can't even agree on the best location of steering controls,
> frame materials, seat height, crank height, the best size of,
> the right distance between, or even the correct *count* of
> wheels! %^)
>


Anyone who has a modicum of appreciation for the absurd will find some humor
in the Johnny NoCom, B. Lafferty, BROL monkey business.

If Bryan can demonstrate a financial loss due to this situation I would be
sympathetic. Otherwise, I think it best to chalk this up to life on line
with the monkeys.

I'm sure you would agree with me that your suggestion to convince Mr.
NoCom's ISP to cancel his account would be considered "insipid" by those
brol members (?) who are in agreement with the BROL poster who wants the FBI
to interupt their search for the terrorists within our borders to look for
Johnny NoCom.


> As to people checking back in on ARBR to see the current
> state, there's always hope that civility may obtain again...
> Nobody's holding their breath, though.
>
> Jon Meinecke
> net.subtle-apteryx

I presume the above is a reference to Ed who claims he responds to others in
kind and in spades. My responses to Ed have for the most part been civil
and true to his word he has always responded to me with civility. Civility
may be a two way street.

Of course, it probably helps that I'm not one of those g.d. liberals or
idiot top posters that make him crazy.

skip



..

 

[Edward Dolan]

"skip" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jon Meinecke" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:1103312421.897f279892b5a06526e0747756a0611f@teranews...
[...]
>> As to people checking back in on ARBR to see the current
>> state, there's always hope that civility may obtain again...
>> Nobody's holding their breath, though.
>>
>> Jon Meinecke
>> net.subtle-apteryx
>
> I presume the above is a reference to Ed who claims he responds to others
> in kind and in spades. My responses to Ed have for the most part been
> civil and true to his word he has always responded to me with civility.
> Civility may be a two way street.
>
> Of course, it probably helps that I'm not one of those g.d. liberals or
> idiot top posters that make him crazy.

I will repay incivility with incivility and I will up the ante too while I
am about it. The only other thing that will set me off is an incredibly
stupid liberal post, so Skip has got that right. Those of us (all
conservatives) who still have the common sense we were born with will get
along. All others, who are invariably liberals, are nothing but nuts and
screwballs and that is the only way to deal with them. Otherwise, they may
get the idea that what they think is normal and acceptable.

However, one other thing should be noted about me in contrast to some
others. I am not a one note Johnny. To go on and on on a single subject is
just too boring for words. I am often accused of getting off topic, but that
is because I do not like to stay on a single subject overly long. I like to
move on and bring other subjects into the conversation. That is the main
reason Jon and I do not get along. He will stay on a subject and beat it to
death. I resolved in my long lost youth that I would never suffer fools to
bore me to death. This comes as a revelation to Jon as he simply can't
imagine that anyone would ever find him boring.

However, Mr. Meinecke is the one person on this group that I would trust to
be a good moderator. All I would ever have to do for him is to clean up my
language a bit and tone down the personal attacks and he would give me a
pass.

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[Edward Dolan]

"Joshua Goldberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tom
>
> I forgot his name, but wasn't there a moron who writes messages almost
> exactly the same way
> as Johnny NoCom about 8 months ago, used an Italian name with a Canadian
> ISP address. He managed to be far more annoying than Edward Dolan and then
> he vanished. Am wondering if this is the same twit.

What could possibly be annoying about Edward Dolan's posts? I find them to
be consistently intelligent and remarkably interesting and insightful. He
must have the world's highest IQ. He is most likely a genius. I regard it as
nothing less than a privilege and an honor to be able to read his
astonishing messages here on such a humble newsgroup as ARBR. We should all
thank our lucky stars. Hang in there Ed and keep up the good work!

--
Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota