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Sounds like crits are about all I would recemmend for the type of miles that you are doing and even
then they are all going to be a fair bit over 10 miles... It sounds like some longer rides at less
of a break neck speed would be worth your while so you can establish a better base. I say this as
someone who is just getting back on the bike myself after a few (too many) years away. I have only
just started doing some speed work but have been building from 30, 50, 80, 110km rides to get my
legs back over the last couple of months

I am aiming at hitting the local crit races at the end of the year here (West Australia).

I am sure others here will disagree... but thats the good thing about these groups I guess.

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Hello Folks,

New rider here(sort of). I have been riding bikes on and off since a young kid, but nothing
serious. I just bought an old vitus in decent condition, had it tuned up. It is a nice light ride,
best bike I can afford right

now.

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Unfortunately it is a bit on the small side for me 52cm; I am 6'0 tall.

It's

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not terribly uncomfortable, but definately could be better. I like getting on a bike and speeding
like a mad man. I guess right now my rides are not that long maybe on average of 10 miles, but
they include

some

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huge hills, and like I said I really push all the way. I don't ride as

much

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as would like because I can't(work constraints..etc).

I was wondering what type of competitive riding is out there(bicycling only)? What types of bikes
are normally used for each respective race

type?

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I don't know wether or not I would do good in a competition of some sort, but would like to start
getting some ideas. Thanks for reading.

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Hello Folks,

. I just bought an old vitus in decent condition,

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had it tuned up. It is a nice light ride, best bike I can afford right

now.

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Unfortunately it is a bit on the small side for me 52cm; I am 6'0 tall.

You need a much larger frame. At your height, you need at least a 56cm frame in that model and
likely a 58 will fit better. Solve that problem ASAP.

Have fun.

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Thanks for reading.

If this post is indicative of your future contributions, please thank us for reading those too.
Anyone who does will deserve it.

Kurgan Gringioni said:

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Thanks for reading.

If this post is indicative of your future contributions, please thank us for reading those too.
Anyone who does will deserve it.

Don't worry Joseph, this guy's reply is totally indicative of his own contributions, so just
ignore him.

&roo

Joseph, Like you I have only been going a few weeks. I've learnt heaps from some of the threads and now my riding/training is a bit more structured. I've had a couple of races over 42km and times have improved. Every ride is a revelation as I get fitter and faster.

My new bike is a 60cm frame (I'm about same height as you - 183 cm). Yuo must be incredibly uncomfortable on such a small frame. Can you straighten your legs out?

My advice is go to a good bike store and get someone to fit you properly. Buy a new bike or a good second hand one that is a good fit. You'll feel much more motivated to stick at it and will probably enjoy your riding more because you'll be more comfortable.

Good riding.

And the "know it all" can go and get st*ffed.😠

Thanks for the info will look into crits. I will try and slow down, and go further 🙂

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You need a much larger frame. At your height, you need at least a 56cm

frame

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in that model and likely a 58 will fit better. Solve that problem ASAP.

Have fun.

I know I have been told this a few times already. I can not afford a new bike this year, I will have
to wait till next.

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My new bike is a 60cm frame (I'm about same height as you - 183 cm). Yuo must be incredibly
uncomfortable on such a small frame. Can you straighten your legs out?

Yes I can straighten my legs out, if I ride seated up no hands 🙂

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My advice is go to a good bike store and get someone to fit you properly. Buy a new bike or a good
second hand one that is a good fit. You'll feel much more motivated to stick at it and will
probably enjoy your riding more because you'll be more comfortable.

Thanks for the advice, I will use it. Just have to wait till next year before I can get another
bike. Will keep reading this NG, very informative.

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Good riding.

And the "know it all" can go and get st*ffed.😠

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Joseph, Like you I have only been going a few weeks.

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Goddamm.

The TdF is over and instead of Dumbass Newbs posting about racing, we have Dumbass Newbs posting
about bike choices.

Welcome, Fred. I look forward to flaming you.

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I know

You apparently do not know the urgency. I would look at trying to trade your bike for one that fits
even if you end up with a frame you consider lower quality. This should be your highest priority.

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You need a much larger frame. At your height, you need at least a 56cm

frame

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in that model and likely a 58 will fit better. Solve that problem ASAP.

Have fun.

I know I have been told this a few times already. I can not afford a new bike this year, I will
have to wait till next.

Sell yours on eBay... buy a new/used one on eBay. Its almost like trading in one used car for
another 'cept its bikes 😉 Seriously, you're probably doing yourself more harm than good riding a
bike that is *that* much too small for you.

- Boyd S.

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Welcome, Fred. I look forward to flaming you.

That's what flaming a-holes do, I guess.

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If this post is indicative of your future contributions, please thank us

for reading those too. Anyone who does will deserve it.

Just out of curiousity, what contributions to your ongoing quest for knowledge did you think you
were going to get from a message with the subject line "Newbie"? You are either even stupider than
you sound or a troll.

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Welcome, Fred. I look forward to flaming you.

That's what flaming a-holes do, I guess.

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If this post is indicative of your future contributions, please thank us

for reading those too. Anyone who does will deserve it.

Just out of curiousity, what contributions to your ongoing quest for knowledge did you think you
were going to get from a message with the subject line "Newbie"?

Dumbass -

Few things on usenet are more fun than getting into it with Newbies.

Welcome, Fred. I look forward to flaming you.

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Welcome, Fred. I look forward to flaming you.

That's what flaming a-holes do, I guess.

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If this post is indicative of your future contributions, please thank

us

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for reading those too. Anyone who does will deserve it.

Just out of curiousity, what contributions to your ongoing quest for knowledge did you think you
were going to get from a message with the subject line "Newbie"?

Dumbass -

Few things on usenet are more fun than getting into it with Newbies.

Welcome, Fred. I look forward to flaming you.

The appellation "Newbie" is, a priori, obnoxious and deserving of abuse. What is most obnoxious
about most Newbie questions is that they can usually be answered by reading a book, either bought or
on loan from a library. I can understand Patriot Act fear, but bicycle related topics probably
aren't high on Asscroft's agenda.

Thank you Mr. Gringi for your time. I look forward kill filing you. Have fun flaming, if I ever post
again, I will most certainly not see your response ;0) muah. What a waste of space. *personal note
don't waste any more time replying to any other gringis out there*

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Few things on usenet are more fun than getting into it with Newbies.

Welcome, Fred. I look forward to flaming you.

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What is most obnoxious about most Newbie questions is that they can

usually

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be answered by reading a book, either bought or on loan from a library.

I was under the impression that the internet is a medium for learning? What are NG's for flaming ?
:0) Thank You Sir, you and I both have wasted a few minutes of time writing useless dribble 🙂 I'll
be sure to look out for your vastly superior pearls of wisdom from now on ;0)

Joseph Shark said:

Hello Folks,

New rider here(sort of). I have been riding bikes on and off since a young kid, but nothing
serious. I just bought an old vitus in decent condition, had it tuned up. It is a nice light ride,
best bike I can afford right now. Unfortunately it is a bit on the small side for me 52cm; I am
6'0 tall. It's not terribly uncomfortable, but definately could be better. I like getting on a
bike and speeding like a mad man. I guess right now my rides are not that long maybe on average of
10 miles, but they include some huge hills, and like I said I really push all the way. I don't
ride as much as would like because I can't(work constraints..etc).

I was wondering what type of competitive riding is out there(bicycling only)? What types of bikes
are normally used for each respective race type? I don't know wether or not I would do good in a
competition of some sort, but would like to start getting some ideas. Thanks for reading.

The first bike I bought out of my own pocket was too small (can't remember actual size, but recall
how my knees came up to my chest while sitting up and upper leg muscles hurt like hell after a 7
mile ride. After getting a right-size bike a lot of that pain went away. Learning a few simple
techniques like warming up, stretching and warming down help considerably.

I frequently do 60+ KM rides and the first 8-10KM I do at a moderate tempo as this is warmup time.
Generally the crummiest part of the ride when I'm cold and the whole physiology isn't in tune. A few
rolling hills usually gets the heartrate up and everything falls into place for a few Ks of higher
tempo before I tackle my favorite climbs, where the ride reallly begins. Going from cold to flat-out
isn't a good plan. A few times I've gone on rides where there's only a few K's before serious
sustained effort is called for and its the kind of pain that can seriously talk you out of future
'good' rides because you don't want to suffer like that again.

Best of luck.

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The appellation "Newbie" is, a priori, obnoxious and deserving of abuse. What is most obnoxious
about most Newbie questions is that they can

usually

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be answered by reading a book, either bought or on loan from a library.

Or, even easier, Google.

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I can understand Patriot Act fear, but bicycle related topics probably

aren't

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high on Asscroft's agenda.

"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty
or security"

- Benjamin Franklin

Joseph Shark said:

I was under the impression that the internet is a medium for learning?

Your impression is incorrect.

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What are NG's for flaming ? :0)

They're for amusement. Think of NG's as a neighborhood bar (or, depending on the social circles in
which you move, perhaps a cocktail party). Do you go there as a medium for learning? Do you see
anyone at the party being paid to answer your questions? You can learn a lot if you listen, and some
of what you learn may actually be true and accurate though the odds are against it. Hmmm, yet
another way in which NG's are like cocktail parties. Anyway, you will learn more if you start out by
listening and by being entertaining than by displaying an attitude. Sometimes those who are new to
NG's liken them to a private club. Perhaps elements of this can be true, but entry to the club is
not restricted and the membership fee is quite low; membership is determined not by money or status
but by information and entertainment value, though sometimes the most entertaining contributions are
the least informative. People who ask questions outside of an existing conversational thread (i.e.,
stand in the middle of the cocktail party and try to start a new conversation by asking a question
to the room) usually contribute neither information nor entertainment value so the responses they
receive depend entirely on the kindness of strangers.

BTW, trade that bike for one that fits, dumbass.