New Year Resolution

"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 09:18:33 -0500, SwStudio <[email hidden]>

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"Ignoramus7928" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I figure that if a particular diet makes my hunger signals work
properly, chances are that it is actually best.

I see. So, if you noticed that eating nothing but llama hair made
you feel full and you lost weight, you'd do it?

That's a silly argument. You could do better than that.

You eat garbage foods in dangerous levels to lose weight regardless
of health ramifications, and you're calling me silly? pssh.

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This is the guiding principle behind low-carb diets: "Who cares what
it is and what it's doing to my body, because I'm not hungry
anymore!"

Try being hungry all the time for a little while. Maybe then you will
understand.

Pathetic. Get a backbone and learn to eat properly.

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Also, consider this thought: if I am hungry when I logically should
not be (as I am maintaining a sensible weight), then something is
wrong. Andif I make a change so that my hunger signals work, then, all
other things being equal, it is an improvement.

But all other things aren't equal, Einstein. You exchanged good
food for [censored]. So, no improvement.

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Also, I do not think that eating meat, fish and vegetables is such a
terrible way to eat.

I eat lots of fish.... and errr, vegetables are carbs - the right ones.
More on that in my next response.

I can do just fine without bread and candy,

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thanks. I do not think that I need "gatorade" or "pringles" to
maintain good fitness.

You just laid out your mistake for everyone to see. You equate
"carbs" with potato chips and candy. You think I live on Pringles
and Gatorade? No wonder you had weight issues. Empty simple
carbs are great for a quick energy boost at an appropriate time,
but not all the time. Learn about complex carbs; whole foods that
fill you up and are good for you.

The vegetables you eat with your fish are a wonderful start. That's
a great carb/protein combo, and a pretty normal meal. A salad on
the side to add roughage would make it better.

cheers,
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David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]>

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I am right now sitting in a brightly lit room and eating bell
peppers. 🙂

Excellent - so you've decided to shift to eating sensible carbs
along with normal protein intake?

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By the way, try, one day, to overeat bunless burgers. You may find
that it is very difficult.

I don't eat meat.

cheers,
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David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I see. I tried that for one year around 1998 or so. For a year, I ate
no meat whatsoever. How long have you been not eating meat?

Fifteen years of eating nothing that had a face. Well, I
introduced fish back into my diet a couple years ago.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

SwStudio said:

The vegetables you eat with your fish are a wonderful start. That's
a great carb/protein combo, and a pretty normal meal. A salad on
the side to add roughage would make it better.

Better to just eat the salad. A complex carb meal
isn't necessarily lacking in protein (not that I
don't like a good salmon steak...)

Consider, cows are vegetarians. So, just _where_
do cows get all that protein?

Now, back to my potato chips... ;^)

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cheers,
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David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

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Bread and pringles, both of which I mentioned, are "complex carbs"...

No. (unless it's whole grain bread...)

I only consider potatoes to be if the skin is
attached and in an unprocessed form.

"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Bread and pringles, both of which I mentioned, are "complex carbs",
also known as "starch".

What kind of bread? And if you think of Pringles first when you
think of carbs, again - I understand why you are in the dilemma
you have found yourself.

cheers,
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David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

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"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]>

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I am right now sitting in a brightly lit room and eating bell
peppers. 🙂

Excellent - so you've decided to shift to eating sensible carbs
along with normal protein intake?

That's the way I have been eating since July. And I try very hard not
to overeat protein, which is kind of difficult on a low carb diet. So,
I try to eat more fats instead.

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By the way, try, one day, to overeat bunless burgers. You may find
that it is very difficult.

I don't eat meat.

I see. I tried that for one year around 1998 or so. For a year, I ate
no meat whatsoever. How long have you been not eating meat?

You guys are making me hungry.

I wonder what Doug eats with his beer?

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"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I see. I tried that for one year around 1998 or so. For a year, I ate
no meat whatsoever. How long have you been not eating meat?

Fifteen years of eating nothing that had a face.

AR?

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:37:20 -0500, SwStudio <[email hidden]>

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"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I see. I tried that for one year around 1998 or so. For a year, I ate
no meat whatsoever. How long have you been not eating meat?

Fifteen years of eating nothing that had a face. Well, I
introduced fish back into my diet a couple years ago.

15 years is a long time.

Long enough to feel pretty comfortable with it.

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I think that I understand your feelings about
LC, seeing your vantage point.

That one's not going to work, err, ignoramous (why you like
that username is beyond me). You are simply getting bitter at
your losing argument and trying to push buttons that don't exist.

cheers
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David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:37:20 -0500, SwStudio <[email hidden]>

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"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> I see. I tried that for one year around 1998 or so. For a year, I ate
> no meat whatsoever. How long have you been not eating meat?

Fifteen years of eating nothing that had a face.

AR?

I'm sorry, I have no idea what "AR" means.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:37:20 -0500, SwStudio <[email hidden]>

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"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> I see. I tried that for one year around 1998 or so. For a year, I ate
> no meat whatsoever. How long have you been not eating meat?

Fifteen years of eating nothing that had a face.

AR?

I'm sorry, I have no idea what "AR" means.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Ignoramus21190 said:

On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:37:20 -0500, SwStudio <[email hidden]>

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"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> I see. I tried that for one year around 1998 or so. For a year, I ate
> no meat whatsoever. How long have you been not eating meat?

Fifteen years of eating nothing that had a face.

AR?

I'm sorry, I have no idea what "AR" means.

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

I find in middle age that running/exercise only partly
helps control weight. I still have to watch what I eat.
My first five years of runnign I could eat anything-
scarf down a half a half-gallon ice cream etc.m, without consequences.
Then my metabolism became more efficient.

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:37:20 -0500, SwStudio <[email hidden]>

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"Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> I see. I tried that for one year around 1998 or so. For a year, I ate
> no meat whatsoever. How long have you been not eating meat?

Fifteen years of eating nothing that had a face. Well, I
introduced fish back into my diet a couple years ago.

15 years is a long time.

Long enough to feel pretty comfortable with it.

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I think that I understand your feelings about
LC, seeing your vantage point.

That one's not going to work, err, ignoramous (why you like
that username is beyond me).

Igor is his name. Why do you use SW instead of
David?

Go drink your wine and stop harrassing the guy.
If he wants to eat potato chips and run ten miles,
let him. Why insult him?

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"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:37:20 -0500, SwStudio <[email hidden]>
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> "Ignoramus21190" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> I see. I tried that for one year around 1998 or so. For a year, I ate
>> no meat whatsoever. How long have you been not eating meat?
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> Fifteen years of eating nothing that had a face.

AR?

I'm sorry, I have no idea what "AR" means.

Animals rights. They typically don't eat
things that have a "face." Cows, chickens,
etc.

"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Igor is his name. Why do you use SW instead of
David?

Few a number of years I owned a recording studio. I named it
Standing Wave Studio, in a sort of tongue-in-cheek reference
to a phenomenon found in badly-designed rooms for recording.

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Go drink your wine and stop harrassing the guy.
If he wants to eat potato chips and run ten miles,
let him. Why insult him?

awww, how cute. Igor has a keeper. I bet he feels great having
you come to his rescue. Will you be doing this service for him
every time someone disagrees with his low-carb viewpoints, or
only with me?

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com

Leafing through rec.running, I read a message from ignoramus21190
@NOSPAM.21190.invalid of 07 Jan 2005:

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> This is the guiding principle behind low-carb diets: "Who cares what
> it is and what it's doing to my body, because I'm not hungry
> anymore!"

Try being hungry all the time for a little while. Maybe then you will
understand.

Pathetic. Get a backbone and learn to eat properly.

I have a lot of backbone, I lost weight and kept it off for almost 1.5
years, that's much better than a great majority of fat people can do.
And much of that time I spent on non-low carb, "eating less" diet. I
proved to myself all that I needed to know about having a backbone,
and now I want to be on a diet that works best for me.

Ig, I think there are some isues that people who have never been very
overweight will find difficult to comprehend. I don't fault them for
that. They just don't know. I also think that there are genetic factors
at work here that make staying at a normal weight difficult. I come from
an eastern european background (I think you do too). I could be wrong
here, but my understanding is that this genetic code may be making the
body want to be at a higher weight. Fighting this requires a huge amount
of backbone, IMO. I fight it by eating a diet that is low in fat, and
high in carbs and protein. That, combined with a lot of running. The
running allows my Russian-self to eat, while my Irish-self runs ;-). This
is how I eliminate the constant hunger while remaining thin.

As you know from replys to your posts on rec.running, most runners will
tell you that endurance sports and low-carbing are not compatible. I
happen to agree. You will not be able to run your best while on such a
diet. Of course you can finish a half marathon, and maybe even a
marathon, but it will never be at your best. That also goes for someone
that would train for a marathon with very little mileage. They might be
able to finish, but it won't be their best. What's needed is the whole
package. But then again, maybe that's not important to you.

At any rate, I commend you for your weight loss and for maintaining it
for as long as you have.

Phil M.

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"What counts in battle is what you do once the pain sets in." -John
Short, South African coach.

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"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Igor is his name. Why do you use SW instead of
David?

Few a number of years I owned a recording studio. I named it
Standing Wave Studio, in a sort of tongue-in-cheek reference
to a phenomenon found in badly-designed rooms for recording.

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Go drink your wine and stop harrassing the guy.
If he wants to eat potato chips and run ten miles,
let him. Why insult him?

awww, how cute. Igor has a keeper. I bet he feels great having
you come to his rescue.

Uh, I'm not defending anyone...

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Will you be doing this service for him
every time someone disagrees with his low-carb viewpoints, or
only with me?

And you're trying to change his eating habits?
Hmmm...seems to me you took great personal offense
at my pointing out alcohol was not healthy. But if
you want to drink, I'm not trying to change your
habit. Pointing out potato chips are not complex
carbs is one thing; the low carb diet is a lie,
just as promoting alcohol as a preventative heart
disease elixir is a lie. But seems pretty petty to
attack his alias...

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Consider, cows are vegetarians. So, just _where_
do cows get all that protein?

Cows can also digest cellulose, which we humans cannot. They are true
herbivores, like rabbits etc. They have enormous intestines and chew
their own cud.

i

I think my point was they aren't carnivores 🙂

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Tom Phillips said:

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Consider, cows are vegetarians. So, just _where_
do cows get all that protein?

Cows can also digest cellulose, which we humans cannot. They are true
herbivores, like rabbits etc. They have enormous intestines and chew
their own cud.

i

I think my point was they aren't carnivores 🙂