New Chain

Adam Lea said:

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I have wondered if it would be theoretically possible to make a chain
completely out of powerlinks and ride with it. Then you could simply
disassemble, clean and reassemble. Admittedly it would be a time consuming
process.

It's the only way to be sure.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html

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Pete Biggs said:

Martin Dann said:

White spirit is an excellent degreaser, so you need to make sure you
remove all the white spirit before applying oil, otherwise it will
just destroy the oil you put on.

Hang up the chain for a few minutes then most of the WS will have
evaporated

Overnight is better - and if you clean in the evening, lube in the morning,
takes no more actual time. You still need to leave about half an hour
between oiling and wiping off, to allow for capillary action to draw the
lube into the chain.

Alternate between two chains, and you can clean the chain you took off
the next weekend (or the next month) if it's more convenient, no need
to get up half an hour earlier in the morning.

Alan Braggins wrote:

<cleaning chains>

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Alternate between two chains, and you can clean the chain you took off
the next weekend (or the next month) if it's more convenient, no need
to get up half an hour earlier in the morning.

Unless you are a lazy sod or are desperately missing a circuar tuit,
then you end up with two chains that need cleaning :-(
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Martin Bulmer said:

Tosspot wrote:
If you get 3:1 against me you

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must be 4,500-6000 a year.

That's about right, then. Thanks.

Yeah, but I reckon on two years out of mine with a bit of cleaning and
lube it, so about 3,000-4,000 per chain.

Mind you, they are pretty fscked after 2 winters

Tosspot said:

Martin Bulmer said:

Tosspot wrote:
If you get 3:1 against me you

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must be 4,500-6000 a year.

That's about right, then. Thanks.

Yeah, but I reckon on two years out of mine with a bit of cleaning and
lube it, so about 3,000-4,000 per chain.

Or as people have been saying. Why bother cleaning why not just change
the chain every few months.

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Mind you, they are pretty fscked after 2 winters

And the rear cassette too I imagine?

Nick said:

Or as people have been saying. Why bother cleaning why not just change
the chain every few months.

Do you know how much a Campag 10-speed costs? :-)

~PB

On 2008-01-04, Tosspot <[email hidden]> wrote:
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See down there --v To be fair, they do generally go together but I
don't normally buy 'quality' cassettes, sometimes I do the chain without
the cassette, but the next year they are both fscked. I think I've
actually hit the nadir of chain replacement by not either going to high
end stuff that lasts, or every year low end stuff.

I think this time around a good cassette, middling chain and change the
chain every year and see what happens.

Or go to hub gears...

And shaft drive...

If you do have hub gears, how easy is it to replace the single sprocket
they have?

Ben C said:

If you do have hub gears, how easy is it to replace the single sprocket
they have?

The Nexus8 one is held on with a snap ring [1]. I am sure there is a
tool you can use, but I have used a couple of flat head screwdrivers.
One to open the ring up and the other to lever it off. Difficulties
include stopping the thing flying off into a corner of the shed and
stopping the whole sprocket turning in the hub.

[1] Item 32 in this diagram http://sheldonbrown.com/nexus8/pages/29.htm

--
Don Whybrow

Sequi Bonum Non Time

If you're happy and you know it, clunk your chains.

Pete Biggs said:

Nick said:

Or as people have been saying. Why bother cleaning why not just change
the chain every few months.

Do you know how much a Campag 10-speed costs? :-)

Eighteen of your Earthling squidses, for Chorus quality. Which isn't a bad
deal, even if considered as a consumable part - you'll get three or four
thousand miles out of it, so it's a good bit less than a penny a mile.

Yes, I know you can get crummy 6 speed chains for a fiver, but would you
really want to?

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
"The result is a language that... not even its mother could
love. Like the camel, Common Lisp is a horse designed by
committee. Camels do have their uses."
;; Scott Fahlman, 7 March 1995

Pete Biggs said:

Nick said:

Or as people have been saying. Why bother cleaning why not just change
the chain every few months.

Do you know how much a Campag 10-speed costs? :-)

Do you know how much a KMC Z82 chain costs. More to the point 5 KMC Z82
chains cost < £20.

I must admit I've always used SRAM PC48 in the past but these got more
expensive when settlecycles closed.

I'm just not convinced 10 speed is worth the extra cost but I've never
tried so what do I know.

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~PB