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  1. The '130/150/170 Kooka' (http://tinyurl.com/2we3z6) cranks I got from
    pdc have been an amazing addition to my 36-er setup. Kind of a lazy
    man's guni, I can swap the pedals and adjust the seat in under 2
    minutes, making the setup extremely adaptable on long rides.

    I logged a lot of miles last summer and fall, and noticed I was
    spending the significant majority of my time at the 130 setting, using
    the 150s only for extended climbs, and the 170s only for long steep
    (brakeless) descents. Meanwhile, I was hearing more and more about the
    speed and distance advantages of even shorter lengths.

    So I decided to get another set of holes drilled, to make the cranks
    110/130/150/170. I finally got them set up on my Hunter 36 today, and
    boy are they fun. They're 15cm shorter than the shortest I've ever
    ridden on a 36, and they were definitely a little squirrely at first. I
    need to log some miles, some climbing, and some free-mounting practice,
    but hopefully by spring I'll feel as comfortable at the 110 length as I
    do today at the 130.

    Hooray for short (with the ability to become long) cranks! Thanks
    again to pdc for having and executing on this idea in the first place.
    Glad I got 'em while the getting was good.

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  2. Hey Tom,

    Great to see your having so much fun with those cranks.

    Sorry, I missed the initial thread about these(if there was one), but
    can you tell me if PDC did the drilling, or did you go to a shop up in
    your neck of the woods for the drilling of the additional hole?

    Are Kookas, the only cranks you can do this with? I know there hard to
    find.

    I ask only for my own curiosity. I still don't have a Coker, but the
    concept intrigues me.

    Keep rollin!!

    Cheers.

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  3. Nice. The Espresso Mojo is feeling a little long in the cranks now.

    How well did the extra hole fit on the Kooka cranks? Picture of the
    new hole?

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  4. teachndad said:

    Sorry, I missed the initial thread about these(if there was one), but
    can you tell me if PDC did the drilling, or did you go to a shop up in
    your neck of the woods for the drilling of the additional hole? Are
    Kookas, the only cranks you can do this with? I know there hard to
    find.

    There were actually a couple different threads started by pdc on this
    topic, but the original one 'is here'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48361). Do the
    "find all threads started by..." thing and you can see some of the
    other discussion. In all cases, pdc helped arrange for the drilling
    via a very skilled machinist. I thought about having the fourth set
    done locally, but decided it was not worth the risk, so sent them back
    to the original machinist and have no regrets with that decision. I
    think there are other cranks that would be okay for multiple drillings,
    but it's not something I've ever researched. I hadn't thought of the
    concept at all until pdc's thread came along, after which I could think
    of little else. 🙂 You can still find Kookas on ebay and other online
    sources, but they're getting rarer. PDC just ran into a nest of them
    somehow, and was nice enough to secure the lot of them for the
    unicyclist community.

    john_childs said:

    How well did the extra hole fit on the Kooka cranks? Picture of the new
    hole?

    It fit perfectly...the outside of the hole closest to the hub exactly
    touches the "bend line" where the plane of the crank's surface shifts
    slightly. I was too hopped up on pho when I did the job today, so
    forgot to take pictures of the cranks before they were mounted. We can
    pull the pedal for an official JC inspection as soon as we get together
    for that saddle-building session. This weekend perhaps?

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  5. tomblackwood said:

    We can pull the pedal for an official JC inspection as soon as we get
    together for that saddle-building session. This weekend perhaps?

    This weekend will be good.

    I got some new toys too. A CygoLite LED light and a Foghat album.
    Coker night rides again. 🙂

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  6. As far as I'm concerned, 110s are THE length 🙂 Glad to see you've
    joined the party!

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  7. john_childs said:

    This weekend will be good.

    I got some new toys too. A CygoLite LED light and a Foghat album.
    Coker night rides again. 🙂

    Oooh what CygoLite did you get? I have the Cygolite dualcross 300, it
    has been nice for night rides on the coker.

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  8. I'm trying to contact pdc to see if he has any left... 🙂

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  9. siafirede said:

    Oooh what CygoLite did you get? I have the Cygolite dualcross 300, it
    has been nice for night rides on the coker.

    The new '2008 DualCross Pro' (http://tinyurl.com/2kkfb7) with the NiMH
    battery. They also have a diffuser option for the DualCross Pro now.
    The diffusers are lenses that stick (adhesive) to the stock lens and
    give a more wide angle light spread. Wider angle spread with an LED is
    nice. Very few LED lights have a wide angle option. I just got the
    light. I'm waiting on the helmet mount to get here (had to order it
    separately).

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  10. Tom,
    They look great. Keep your shoe laces tucked in. I haven't actively
    looked for old Kookas in a while. Were I to find some sets, I might do
    another round of them. If the Isis hubs become a 36er standard or
    option (is the Quax 36er Isis?), then the 2 hole KH cranks (125mm
    150mm) would be very nice. If someone else comes up with some they need
    drilled I or Tom could put them in touch with a machinist. He has a jig
    made specifically for drilling that make of Kooka cranks. I have the
    tooling (drill and taps) and could make them avalable.

    johnfoss said:

    I'm trying to contact pdc to see if he has any left... 🙂

    Sorry John, all out. I sent you an email.

    -Phil

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  11. I seen a pair of Red Kooka cranks on Pinkbike a little while ago.. can't
    be bothered to look for them though.

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  12. tomblackwood said:

    They're 15cm shorter than the shortest I've ever ridden on a 36

    15mm perhaps?
    Battling with the metric Tom?

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  13. pdc said:

    I haven't actively looked for old Kookas in a while. Were I to find some
    sets, I might do another round of them.

    If you are, can you put my name on the list? I have an original
    square-tapered Schlumpf and thus cannot have the further flexibility of
    the KH dual-hole cranks, so those multi-holed Kookas would be the only
    way to do it.

    Trouble is the small matter of getting them to me, as I seem to be on
    the wrong side of the Atlantic pond.

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  14. gkmac said:

    I have an original square-tapered Schlumpf and thus cannot have the
    further flexibility of the KH dual-hole cranks, so those multi-holed
    Kookas would be the only way to do it.

    Clicking the gold button is a cheaper, quicker and more effective way
    still 😄

    Kookas aren't the only option. Remember 'this'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60024) thread?

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  15. Very nice Tom. I bet you'll get a fair amount of use in the shortest
    position in Vietnam.

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  16. flyer said:

    As far as I'm concerned, 110s are THE length 🙂 Glad to see you've
    joined the party!

    Well, getting towards -the -length anyway... surely 100s are -the
    -length!

    How do you find the large amount of extra crank spinning next to your
    heel? At 110s setting you must be going quite fast - is there no fear
    of catching them on your foot?

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  17. semach.the.monkey said:

    Clicking the gold button is a cheaper, quicker and more effective way
    still 😄

    I don't call an £800 Schlumpf hub a "cheaper" solution.

    semach.the.monkey said:

    Kookas aren't the only option. Remember 'this'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60024) thread?

    - I never saw that thread first time round, so "remember this" is an
    invalid question.
    - Not all of us have the manual dexterity to put a shelf up, let
    alone machine holes into existing cranks.

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  18. gkmac said:

    I don't call an £800 Schlumpf hub a "cheaper" solution.

    You already have the £800 Schlumpf. Clicking the button costs nothing.
    Things don't get much cheaper than that!

    gkmac said:


    Not all of us have the manual dexterity to put a shelf up, let alone
    machine holes into existing cranks.

    I thought the thread was about finding a machine shop or bike shop that
    could put threadded holes in cranks. The point being that there are
    other options to buying pre-drilled Kookas from the USA.

    STM

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  19. pdc said:


    I might do another round of them.

    Please also put me on the short list of customers if you decide to do
    another round.

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  20. redwelly said:

    Well, getting towards -the -length anyway... surely 100s are -the
    -length! Tom - How do you find the large amount of extra crank
    spinning next to your heel? At 110s setting you must be going quite
    fast - is there no fear of catching them on your foot?

    Thanks Sam...you are one of a few people that have inspired me to go
    shorter. I'll look at the 100s after I have the 110s wired.

    I have had zero problems with "the nub" while -spinning-. The only
    place it comes into play is during mounting. If your foot lands too
    far in on the pedal and you don't adjust before the first trip around,
    the nub can knock your foot off when it comes around. The good news is
    you don't have any speed going yet. The bad news is it makes you look
    like a klutz whilst mounting, but that is something I made my peace
    with long ago.

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