"mountain" and "road" pedals

Jim Higson said:

I'm thinking of just putting double-sided "mountain" type SPD
pedals on both bikes.

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Quoted message said:

Will they cause any problems on the road bike?

No. From the looks and larger platform it offers Shimano's one
sided SPD pedal (PD-A520) might be worth a look...

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helmut springer

I used to use MTB(SPD) pedals on all my bikes (Road, MTB, Touring)
until I started riding with a road group ride. We tend to get a little
competative on these rides sprinting town lines and racing to the top
of climbs. I had a few scary experiences with blowing out of my pedals
with my SPD pedals during town line sprints. SPD and MTP type pedals
tend to have less float and can release easier on the up-stroke than
road pedals. After nearly going down at 25mph+ on a sprint I decided to
get some road shoes and LOOK pedals. Since then I have never had an
issue with blowing out.

Quoted message said:

From the sounds of it you would do fine with an SPD-type MTB shoe and

pedals for both bikes. If you get into riding with a high testosterone
group ride then go for pair of road shoes and LOOK-type pedals.

-Ralph

Jim Higson said:

I'm looking to buy some clipless pedals for my mountain and road bikes. I
don't really want to buy two pairs of shoes or have to keep swapping cleats
over. I also want pedals that work with "walkable" shoes.

I'm thinking of just putting double-sided "mountain" type SPD pedals on both
bikes. They appeal because they're cheap and fit the requirements of only
needing one pair of shoes. Shimano's entry level M520 look OK, and the more
expensive models seems just to offer weight reduction, which I'm not all
that bothered about. Plus the double-sided thing sounds like a good idea
for the road as well as off it for getting in and out quickly at traffic
lights.

Will they cause any problems on the road bike? Really, I can't really see
there being all that much difference in the performance of pedals for
road/mountain use. I mostly do fairly fast riding at weekends, and some
light touring.

The only alternative I can find of road/mountain pedals that use the same
cleats is the Crank Bros ones. The egg beaters look very... interesting.
Maybe I'll try some one day.

On a related note, what makes the egg beaters "XC" pedals and not road
racing pedals? I'd have thought it'd road racers would take the reduced
weight version over the MTBers. What makes the nude egg beaters unsuited to
road cycling?

Thanks for any insight,
--
Jim

Jim Higson said:

I'm looking to buy some clipless pedals for my mountain and road bikes. I
don't really want to buy two pairs of shoes or have to keep swapping cleats
over. I also want pedals that work with "walkable" shoes.

I'm thinking of just putting double-sided "mountain" type SPD pedals on both
bikes. They appeal because they're cheap and fit the requirements of only
needing one pair of shoes. Shimano's entry level M520 look OK, and the more
expensive models seems just to offer weight reduction, which I'm not all
that bothered about. Plus the double-sided thing sounds like a good idea
for the road as well as off it for getting in and out quickly at traffic
lights.

The M520 are all you need. The best buy in SPD pedals IMO.

Quoted message said:

Will they cause any problems on the road bike?

No

Quoted message said:

Really, I can't really see
there being all that much difference in the performance of pedals for
road/mountain use.

Bingo. They are only on the heavy side if you include the shoes. If
weight isn't an issue for you and you want walkable shoes ....

Quoted message said:

I mostly do fairly fast riding at weekends, and some
light touring.

The only alternative I can find of road/mountain pedals that use the same
cleats is the Crank Bros ones. The egg beaters look very... interesting.
Maybe I'll try some one day.

They are way overpriced and off no real extra's compared to the M520.

Lou
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Ralph Hansell said:

I used to use MTB(SPD) pedals on all my bikes (Road, MTB, Touring)
until I started riding with a road group ride. We tend to get a little
competative on these rides sprinting town lines and racing to the top
of climbs. I had a few scary experiences with blowing out of my pedals
with my SPD pedals during town line sprints. SPD and MTP type pedals
tend to have less float and can release easier on the up-stroke than
road pedals. After nearly going down at 25mph+ on a sprint I decided to
get some road shoes and LOOK pedals. Since then I have never had an
issue with blowing out.

I don't agree.

Lou
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I"ve been using SPD pedals on my road bikes for years. They actually
have both single sided and double sided models. I have the 929 on
road bikes, 540 on tandem, and wife liked the black decor of the 520
model. I've noticed no difference in performance or durability of the
various models. I ride with a T091 or Lake SPD sandals. The T092,
which is the current model, has smooth soles. I don't use road
pedals, shave my legs, and use a mirror but that doesn't stop me from
having to take pulls in the line or slow me down in a chase.

I personally believe that much of what is said about road pedals is
just so much myth. I have comfortable shoes that stay firmly attached
to the pedals and I can walk comfortably as well.

Jim Higson said:

I'm thinking of just putting double-sided "mountain" type SPD pedals on both
bikes. They appeal because they're cheap and fit the requirements of only
needing one pair of shoes. Shimano's entry level M520 look OK, and the more
expensive models seems just to offer weight reduction, which I'm not all
that bothered about. Plus the double-sided thing sounds like a good idea
for the road as well as off it for getting in and out quickly at traffic
lights.

Lou Holtman said:

Jim Higson said:

I'm looking to buy some clipless pedals for my mountain and road bikes. I
don't really want to buy two pairs of shoes or have to keep swapping
cleats over. I also want pedals that work with "walkable" shoes.

I'm thinking of just putting double-sided "mountain" type SPD pedals on
both bikes. They appeal because they're cheap and fit the requirements of
only needing one pair of shoes. Shimano's entry level M520 look OK, and
the more expensive models seems just to offer weight reduction, which I'm
not all that bothered about. Plus the double-sided thing sounds like a
good idea for the road as well as off it for getting in and out quickly
at traffic lights.

The M520 are all you need. The best buy in SPD pedals IMO.

The other cool thing about the 520s is my mountain bike has silver cranks
and my road bike black, and the M520s come in both colours. I wouldn't pay
extra for this, but it is neat to have at no extra cost.

I can get both pairs for £36 inc delivery online. Just one pair of basic
look-type pedals would probably cost more than that.

Thanks for the reply.

--
Jim

Ralph Hansell said:

Quoted message said:

From the sounds of it you would do fine with an SPD-type MTB shoe and

pedals for both bikes. If you get into riding with a high testosterone
group ride then go for pair of road shoes and LOOK-type pedals.

Maybe I'll get more into group riding one day, but at the moment I'm looking
at spending quite a lot of time taking it easy because of a (non-cycling)
injury. I'll go with the 520s.

--
Jim

Lou Holtman said:

Ralph Hansell said:

I used to use MTB(SPD) pedals on all my bikes (Road, MTB, Touring)
until I started riding with a road group ride. We tend to get a little
competative on these rides sprinting town lines and racing to the top
of climbs. I had a few scary experiences with blowing out of my pedals
with my SPD pedals during town line sprints. SPD and MTP type pedals
tend to have less float and can release easier on the up-stroke than
road pedals. After nearly going down at 25mph+ on a sprint I decided to
get some road shoes and LOOK pedals. Since then I have never had an
issue with blowing out.

I don't agree.

Yeah, with SPDs it gets harder to get out of the pedals as the cleats
wear. What is it with Look cleats?

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Jim Higson said:

I'm looking to buy some clipless pedals for my mountain and road bikes. I
don't really want to buy two pairs of shoes or have to keep swapping cleats
over. I also want pedals that work with "walkable" shoes.

I'm thinking of just putting double-sided "mountain" type SPD pedals on both
bikes. They appeal because they're cheap and fit the requirements of only
needing one pair of shoes. Shimano's entry level M520 look OK, and the more
expensive models seems just to offer weight reduction, which I'm not all
that bothered about. Plus the double-sided thing sounds like a good idea
for the road as well as off it for getting in and out quickly at traffic
lights.

I've been using SPDs since 1991; now they are on all my bikes. The
combination of easy, two-sided entry and a truly walkable shoe is hard
to beat for a recreational cyclist who unclips for traffic stops and
doesn't want to walk like a duck off the bike.

Quoted message said:

Will they cause any problems on the road bike? Really, I can't really see
there being all that much difference in the performance of pedals for
road/mountain use. I mostly do fairly fast riding at weekends, and some
light touring.

The only alternative I can find of road/mountain pedals that use the same
cleats is the Crank Bros ones. The egg beaters look very... interesting.
Maybe I'll try some one day.

On a related note, what makes the egg beaters "XC" pedals and not road
racing pedals? I'd have thought it'd road racers would take the reduced
weight version over the MTBers. What makes the nude egg beaters unsuited to
road cycling?

Thanks for any insight,
--
Jim

Ralph Hansell said:

I used to use MTB(SPD) pedals on all my bikes (Road, MTB, Touring)
until I started riding with a road group ride. We tend to get a little
competative on these rides sprinting town lines and racing to the top
of climbs. I had a few scary experiences with blowing out of my pedals
with my SPD pedals during town line sprints. SPD and MTP type pedals
tend to have less float and can release easier on the up-stroke than
road pedals.

Did you turn up the release force adjustment? Were your cl

Quoted message said:

After nearly going down at 25mph+ on a sprint I decided to
get some road shoes and LOOK pedals. Since then I have never had an
issue with blowing out.

Quoted message said:

From the sounds of it you would do fine with an SPD-type MTB shoe and

pedals for both bikes. If you get into riding with a high testosterone
group ride then go for pair of road shoes and LOOK-type pedals.

-Ralph

Jim Higson said:

I'm looking to buy some clipless pedals for my mountain and road bikes. I
don't really want to buy two pairs of shoes or have to keep swapping cleats
over. I also want pedals that work with "walkable" shoes.

I'm thinking of just putting double-sided "mountain" type SPD pedals on both
bikes. They appeal because they're cheap and fit the requirements of only
needing one pair of shoes. Shimano's entry level M520 look OK, and the more
expensive models seems just to offer weight reduction, which I'm not all
that bothered about. Plus the double-sided thing sounds like a good idea
for the road as well as off it for getting in and out quickly at traffic
lights.

Will they cause any problems on the road bike? Really, I can't really see
there being all that much difference in the performance of pedals for
road/mountain use. I mostly do fairly fast riding at weekends, and some
light touring.

The only alternative I can find of road/mountain pedals that use the same
cleats is the Crank Bros ones. The egg beaters look very... interesting.
Maybe I'll try some one day.

On a related note, what makes the egg beaters "XC" pedals and not road
racing pedals? I'd have thought it'd road racers would take the reduced
weight version over the MTBers. What makes the nude egg beaters unsuited to
road cycling?

Thanks for any insight,
--
Jim

Ralph Hansell said:

I used to use MTB(SPD) pedals on all my bikes (Road, MTB, Touring)
until I started riding with a road group ride. We tend to get a little
competative on these rides sprinting town lines and racing to the top
of climbs. I had a few scary experiences with blowing out of my pedals
with my SPD pedals during town line sprints. SPD and MTP type pedals
tend to have less float and can release easier on the up-stroke than
road pedals.

How was the release force adjustment set? Also, the angle of the cleat
can be an issue, IME. Was the cleat worm?

Quoted message said:

After nearly going down at 25mph+ on a sprint I decided to
get some road shoes and LOOK pedals. Since then I have never had an
issue with blowing out.

Quoted message said:

From the sounds of it you would do fine with an SPD-type MTB shoe and

pedals for both bikes. If you get into riding with a high testosterone
group ride then go for pair of road shoes and LOOK-type pedals.

-Ralph

Jim Higson said:

I'm looking to buy some clipless pedals for my mountain and road bikes. I
don't really want to buy two pairs of shoes or have to keep swapping cleats
over. I also want pedals that work with "walkable" shoes.

I'm thinking of just putting double-sided "mountain" type SPD pedals on both
bikes. They appeal because they're cheap and fit the requirements of only
needing one pair of shoes. Shimano's entry level M520 look OK, and the more
expensive models seems just to offer weight reduction, which I'm not all
that bothered about. Plus the double-sided thing sounds like a good idea
for the road as well as off it for getting in and out quickly at traffic
lights.

Will they cause any problems on the road bike? Really, I can't really see
there being all that much difference in the performance of pedals for
road/mountain use. I mostly do fairly fast riding at weekends, and some
light touring.

The only alternative I can find of road/mountain pedals that use the same
cleats is the Crank Bros ones. The egg beaters look very... interesting.
Maybe I'll try some one day.

On a related note, what makes the egg beaters "XC" pedals and not road
racing pedals? I'd have thought it'd road racers would take the reduced
weight version over the MTBers. What makes the nude egg beaters unsuited to
road cycling?

Thanks for any insight,
--
Jim

Jim Higson said:

I'm looking to buy some clipless pedals for my mountain and road bikes. I
don't really want to buy two pairs of shoes or have to keep swapping cleats
over. I also want pedals that work with "walkable" shoes.

I'm thinking of just putting double-sided "mountain" type SPD pedals on both
bikes. They appeal because they're cheap and fit the requirements of only
needing one pair of shoes. Shimano's entry level M520 look OK, and the more
expensive models seems just to offer weight reduction, which I'm not all
that bothered about. Plus the double-sided thing sounds like a good idea
for the road as well as off it for getting in and out quickly at traffic
lights.

Will they cause any problems on the road bike? Really, I can't really see
there being all that much difference in the performance of pedals for
road/mountain use. I mostly do fairly fast riding at weekends, and some
light touring....

You will be considered a "Fred" if you use ATB pedals on a road bike.
This offense is a serious as wearing a wool jersey, riding a steel
framed bicycle, having conventional 36-spoke wheels, down-tube or
bar-end shifters, less than 10 gears in back, a triple crank in front,
tires wider than 23-mm, fenders, etc.

In other words, unless you are a slave to fashion and peer pressure, go
for it.

I have come to prefer the "single release" SH-51 "S" SPD cleats over
the "multi-release" SH-55 "M" cleats as they offer a few degrees of
float and do not have the same potential for accidental release when
hammering.

--
Tom Sherman - Here, not there.

Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:

Jim Higson wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Will they cause any problems on the road bike? Really, I can't really see
there being all that much difference in the performance of pedals for
road/mountain use. I mostly do fairly fast riding at weekends, and some
light touring....

You will be considered a "Fred" if you use ATB pedals on a road bike.
This offense is a serious as wearing a wool jersey, riding a steel
framed bicycle, having conventional 36-spoke wheels, down-tube or
bar-end shifters, less than 10 gears in back, a triple crank in front,
tires wider than 23-mm, fenders, etc.

In other words, unless you are a slave to fashion and peer pressure, go
for it.

I have come to prefer the "single release" SH-51 "S" SPD cleats over
the "multi-release" SH-55 "M" cleats as they offer a few degrees of
float and do not have the same potential for accidental release when
hammering.

Yeah, what he said. I've been running Ritchey SPD pedals on most of
the road bike rides I've done for many years. They're also
single-release pedals and cleats, and I've had very little isssue with
them popping out even though I tend to keep the pedal release tension
set fairly low. Granted, if a ride was going to turn into an all-out
sprint-fest I'd opt for the trusty Look pedals and cleats (and the
nicer shoes they're attached to), but for 99.5% of the riding I do,
they work great (and look more "svelte" than the semi-clunky Look
pedals - so you see, the fashion thing can go both ways). ;-)

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:

You will be considered a "Fred" if you use ATB pedals on a road bike.
This offense is a serious as wearing a wool jersey, riding a steel
framed bicycle, having conventional 36-spoke wheels, down-tube or
bar-end shifters, less than 10 gears in back, a triple crank in front,
tires wider than 23-mm, fenders, etc.

Apart from the wool jersey, you just described me!

Jim Higson said:

I'm looking to buy some clipless pedals for my mountain and road bikes.

Quoted message said:

I mostly do fairly fast riding at weekends, and some
light touring.

You consider yourself a fairly fast rider on the weekends and you do
not already have clipless pedals on your bikes? I think the idea of
fairly fast is highly relevant. I suspect if you actually rode with
fairly fast people, you would have to change your opinion of how fast
you ride. I have not met any fairly fast riders in the past decade who
were not using clipless pedals.

Quoted message said:

Jim Higson said:

I'm looking to buy some clipless pedals for my mountain and road bikes.

Quoted message said:

I mostly do fairly fast riding at weekends, and some
light touring.

You consider yourself a fairly fast rider on the weekends and you do
not already have clipless pedals on your bikes? I think the idea of
fairly fast is highly relevant. I suspect if you actually rode with
fairly fast people, you would have to change your opinion of how fast
you ride. I have not met any fairly fast riders in the past decade who
were not using clipless pedals.

I was doing 42 km/hr the other day (i had a good day) and someone was
drafting. I looked behind me and I saw this guy on a.... 3 speed city
bike and certainly no clipless pedals. For the next 3-4 km I couldn't
get rid of him. Then I had to make a right turn and he went straight
on...Thank God.

Lou
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Lou Holtman said:

Ralph Hansell said:

I used to use MTB(SPD) pedals on all my bikes (Road, MTB, Touring)
until I started riding with a road group ride. We tend to get a little
competative on these rides sprinting town lines and racing to the top
of climbs. I had a few scary experiences with blowing out of my pedals
with my SPD pedals during town line sprints. SPD and MTP type pedals
tend to have less float and can release easier on the up-stroke than
road pedals. After nearly going down at 25mph+ on a sprint I decided to
get some road shoes and LOOK pedals. Since then I have never had an
issue with blowing out.

I don't agree.

Lou
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seconded. That sounds like a big ole smear of brown roadie BS.Tighten
them down nicely and most spds will grip as well as any mere mortal
will ever need. Unless you have special needs knees, don't [censored] away
your money on special needs pedals. The basic Shimanos, or even Wellgo
800s ($40), or the house branded Wellgos like Nashbar are great. Cleats
are ubiquitous and inexpensive as well.

Quoted message said:

Maybe I'll get more into group riding one day, but at the moment I'm
looking
at spending quite a lot of time taking it easy because of a (non-cycling)
injury. I'll go with the 520s.

--
Jim

Have a look at the 540's, too. I got them last year and I don't remember
why! But, at the time, they seemed like a better deal than the 520's.

Pat in TX

Quoted message said:

Lou Holtman said:

I was doing 42 km/hr the other day (i had a good day) and someone was
drafting. I looked behind me and I saw this guy on a.... 3 speed city
bike and certainly no clipless pedals. For the next 3-4 km I couldn't
get rid of him.

I experienced the same thing last year: whatever I did, I couldn't get rid
of a young girl (16-17 years old), who was also on a city bike. I said
after some time she was a very good cyclist and she just said: "well, I
ride every day 20 miles to school, so I have a lot of practice"......

Thank you for reminding me of this traumatic experience, Lou!

Gr, Derk