Mike Vandeman

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Micheal Artindale said:

I read your posts, and I think it is comical at best. And
I will tell you why:

Here's a clue -- he doesn't care! If it's comical, laugh and
get over it.

Quoted message said:

1) you say you have a PHD, but you have yet to say in
what. What is it in, when did you receive it, and from
where?

Check his website pinhead, it's all there.

Quoted message said:

2) you say that you are trying to create a people free
park. What are you doing to actually get it done?

He's not doing anything but trolling on usenet. Congrats,
you just got caught. Now spit the hook out and vow to never
reply to him again.

Quoted message said:

3) you are what we "northerners" call "tree huggers".
These people object to logging, mining, trapping,
hunting, fishing, and even camping. You seam to agree
with these people, so here are a few questions for you
to answer: (A) Do you object to logging? what do you
wipe your but off with? toilet paper is made from
trees. (B) Do you object to mining? where does the
steel and other metals come from that you use? (C) Do
you object to drilling for oil? where does the plastics
that you use come from? (D) Do you wear deoderant, or
any colonge? well, surprise, those smells start off
from animals.

Attempting to point out hypocrisy to MV is like trying to
explain physics to a cat. It just ain't worth the effort

Quoted message said:

You can say that you object to these things, but your life
revolves around those things. Recycleing is good, but
unfortunatly, it is not fool proof, we still need raw
materials. What i am against is waste. When i get
something that is in soooo much packaging, it annoys me.

Maybe you should go out and enjoy nature.... it seams that
you dont.

Micheal

(i doubt that you will respond honestly to this, you will
only quote things, not give you true answers)

Just killfile him and be done with it. Go ride your bike and
prove him wrong.

Tom

"Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I read your posts, and I think it is comical at best. And
I will tell you why:

1) you say you have a PHD, but you have yet to say in
what. What is it in, when did you receive it, and from
where?

Um, not that I admire the guy but at least do a touch of
homework before you start blasting him. Now you'll just go
and get labeled as "another lying Mountain Biker"

from his own personal website that is referenced in every
useless post he puts on this newsgroup
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I have a B.A. Magna cum Laude from the University of
California at Berkeley in Mathematics, With Special
Distinction in Mathematics. As a Junior at U.C. Berkeley,
I ranked 37 1/2th out of 1300 college math students in the
nation in the annual mathematics contest sponsored by the
Mathematical Association of America. I have an M.A. in
Mathematics (including study in Statistics) from Harvard
University. And my Ph.D. from the University of California
at Los Angeles is in Psychology, concentrating in
Psychometrics. Psychometrics is the science of the
measurement of human behavior and traits, and forms the
scientific basis upon which transportation modeling and
all other forms of human measurement rest. I taught
measurement theory -- specifically, Reliability and
Validity -- at California State University, San Francisco.
I have been a computer programmer since 1962. I taught
computer science for
U.C. Berkeley Extension. In other words, I am an expert in
mathematics, statistics, scientific method, measurement
science (including modeling), and computer science.

Now of course, his PhD is in nothing related to trail
damage so he's read some books but could hardly be called
an expert in the field at least as far as education goes.
He also totally ignores the scientific method in any of his
posts and fails to provide useful statistics or even
credible sources.

Michael

On Sun, 30 May 2004 11:58:03 -0400, "Micheal Artindale"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

.I read your posts, and I think it is comical at best. And I
will tell you .why: . .1) you say you have a PHD, but you
have yet to say in what. What is it in, .when did you
receive it, and from where?

UCLA Psychology '73

.2) you say that you are trying to create a people free
park. What are you .doing to actually get it done?

Advocating.

.3) you are what we "northerners" call "tree huggers". These
people object to .logging, mining, trapping, hunting,
fishing, and even camping. You seam to .agree with these
people, so here are a few questions for you to answer: (A)
.Do you object to logging? what do you wipe your but off
with? toilet paper .is made from trees.

In some countries they use water. I am sure you use the same
as me. You hypocrites are all alike.

(B) Do you object to mining? where does the steel and
.other metals come from that you use?

I don't use much, so most of that mining is unnecessary. I
am quite sure I use less than you. Your hypocrisy is asking
others to do things that you aren't willing to do.

(C) Do you object to drilling for oil? .where does the
plastics that you use come from?

Ditto.

(D) Do you wear deoderant, .or any colonge? well, surprise,
those smells start off from animals.

Not what I use.

.You can say that you object to these things, but your life
revolves around .those things.

BS. You have no idea how I live.

Recycleing is good, but unfortunatly, it is not fool proof,
we .still need raw materials. What i am against is waste.
When i get something .that is in soooo much packaging, it
annoys me. . .Maybe you should go out and enjoy nature....
it seams that you dont.

I do. You aren't very perceptive. Defensive, but not
perceptive. And not very honest, since you are doing exactly
what you are complaining about.

.Micheal . .(i doubt that you will respond honestly to this,
you will only quote things, .not give you true answers) .

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits
to humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the
previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road
construction.)

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On Sun, 30 May 2004 22:21:45 GMT, "Michael Paul" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

. ."Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]>
wrote in message
."]news:[email hidden]... .> I read
your posts, and I think it is comical at best. And I will
tell you .> why: .> .> 1) you say you have a PHD, but you
have yet to say in what. What is it in, .> when did you
receive it, and from where? . .Um, not that I admire the guy
but at least do a touch of homework before you .start
blasting him. Now you'll just go and get labeled as "another
lying .Mountain Biker" . .from his own personal website that
is referenced in every useless post he .puts on this
newsgroup home.pacbell.netmjv1.htmOpen ↗ . .I have
a B.A. Magna cum Laude from the University of California at
Berkeley .in Mathematics, With Special Distinction in
Mathematics. As a Junior at U.C. .Berkeley, I ranked 37
1/2th out of 1300 college math students in the nation .in
the annual mathematics contest sponsored by the Mathematical
Association .of America. I have an M.A. in Mathematics
(including study in Statistics) .from Harvard University.
And my Ph.D. from the University of California at .Los
Angeles is in Psychology, concentrating in Psychometrics.
Psychometrics .is the science of the measurement of human
behavior and traits, and forms .the scientific basis upon
which transportation modeling and all other forms .of human
measurement rest. I taught measurement theory --
specifically, .Reliability and Validity -- at California
State University, San Francisco. I .have been a computer
programmer since 1962. I taught computer science for .U.C.
Berkeley Extension. In other words, I am an expert in
mathematics, .statistics, scientific method, measurement
science (including modeling), and .computer science. . .Now
of course, his PhD is in nothing related to trail damage so
he's read .some books but could hardly be called an expert
in the field at least as far .as education goes. He also
totally ignores the scientific method in any of .his posts
and fails to provide useful statistics or even credible
sources. .

That's what we psychologists call "projection". I'm actually
the ONLY person who has posted any science in ths newsgroup.

.Michael .

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits
to humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the
previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road
construction.)

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