Meal help

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I doubt that one meal of anything will kill anyone, food allergies
excluded.

Nobody suggested it would. But these are very weak people who don't
need any additional headache, nausea, cramp, sweats, bloating and
diarrhoea etc. Just one meal can do it.

Janet.

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I doubt that one meal of anything will kill anyone, food allergies
excluded.

Nobody suggested it would. But these are very weak people who don't
need any additional headache, nausea, cramp, sweats, bloating and
diarrhoea etc. Just one meal can do it.

Janet.

End Stage AIDS patients can have those problems no matter what they eat.
Or don't eat. But does that mean you'll only feed them what you think
they should have? No, you offer them a varied selection and let them
pick and choose based on how they feel at that very moment.

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> Apparently that is how I'm thought of. I suppose if I had to be
> compared to someone Jessica Tandy would not be a bad deal 😉
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Not at all...

It is getting late. I want roast beef. I'm thinking deli meats. I'm
tired and do not want to go out for dinner. I've had a longish day as
it is. Gawd... maybe Arby's?

I thought you said you wanted roast beef. At least look for a Lion's
Choice.

I didn't know there was one down on Manchester. I stopped there. It was
okay. I don't think any of those places are all that great but the Lion's
Choice gave aus jus.

Michael

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Next time you grocery-shop, pick up something to have on hand for
these kind of nights. In tonight's case, you could've had on hand a
very nice 'can' of roast beef, or any nice deli dinner in a package.
Even if it has to go in the oven, lie down and soothe your mind and
body while it is heating. Repeat after me: Life is wonderful.... life
is wonderful .... life is wonderful
Dee Dee

What is a can of roast beef? Don't think I've had one.

Michael

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Next time you grocery-shop, pick up something to have on hand for
these kind of nights. In tonight's case, you could've had on hand a
very nice 'can' of roast beef, or any nice deli dinner in a package.
Even if it has to go in the oven, lie down and soothe your mind and
body while it is heating. Repeat after me: Life is wonderful.... life
is wonderful .... life is wonderful
Dee Dee

What is a can of roast beef? Don't think I've had one.

The only one I can think of (in the U.S.) would be Underwood:

http://www.bgfoods.com/underwood/underwood_products.asp

I haven't had it in years. I did have some of there devilled ham
last week. I used to love the stuff but it had a musky taste that
reminds me of organ meat and there were bone chips in it. Very
dissappointing...

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Jani in WA

You know, it's not just Kosher keeping Jews who don't eat pork. Muslims
don't eat it either. And there are many other people aside from Jews and
Muslims who, as part of their religous beliefs, do not eat pork.

Obviously it's your business, Michael, what you choose or not choose to
fix and take to the hospice center, but since you obviously are trying
to do a nice thing, I think t's important that you keep pork products
out of the food.

Just my two cents worth.

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Janet Baraclough said:

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I doubt that one meal of anything will kill anyone, food allergies
excluded.

Nobody suggested it would. But these are very weak people who don't
need any additional headache, nausea, cramp, sweats, bloating and
diarrhoea etc. Just one meal can do it.

Janet.

End Stage AIDS patients can have those problems no matter what they

eat.

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Or don't eat. But does that mean you'll only feed them what you think
they should have? No, you offer them a varied selection and let them
pick and choose based on how they feel at that very moment.

Here has what we've decided to do. We will make a bunch of mac 'n cheese
and Martha's soup. The ham is out. The medical team at the hospice sort
of 86 the ham. Instead we will cater several choices of those deli dollar
roll sandwiches. This of course was not my choice of things to do. I
wanted to cook more. Sara is taking care of the desserts. I just thought
we could do more. Mac and cheese is easy as is Martha's soup. The deli
sandwiches are a no brainer. Sara might make some of Schaller's browines
along with store bought stuff.

Michael

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And since it's an AIDS facility, that would leave out many
dietary restrictions.

Why do you think that?

Think?

Know.

If you disagree, then just spit it out and explain your
reasoning. Or is this some sort of bluff?

-sw

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You know, it's not just Kosher keeping Jews who don't eat pork. Muslims
don't eat it either. And there are many other people aside from Jews and
Muslims who, as part of their religous beliefs, do not eat pork.

Obviously it's your business, Michael, what you choose or not choose to
fix and take to the hospice center, but since you obviously are trying
to do a nice thing, I think t's important that you keep pork products
out of the food.

Just my two cents worth.

Is this any different from folks who don't eat beef? How about all meat
eaters? Should we make him produce a totally vegetarian meal... or maybe
it has to be reduced to a Vegan meal?...or should we assume that with a
variety of options most people can find something they can and will eat?

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Next time you grocery-shop, pick up something to have on hand for
these kind of nights. In tonight's case, you could've had on hand a
very nice 'can' of roast beef, or any nice deli dinner in a package.
Even if it has to go in the oven, lie down and soothe your mind and
body while it is heating. Repeat after me: Life is wonderful.... life
is wonderful .... life is wonderful
Dee Dee

What is a can of roast beef? Don't think I've had one.

Michael

It is a brand Kirkland at Costco that JH picked up 4 cans in a package.
Since I am not a big meat eater, this sort of thing of product does not
appeal to me -- remembering in olden days the dog-meat with liquid-type
roast beef -- as well as just not appealing to me in general.

It is good for DH when he is hungry for meat and I am not. (He bought a
George Foreman - where are you Om? for some steaks.) Actually the roast
beef meat is quite good looking, doesn't have a bunch of gloop in it when it
comes out of the can and is not at all like pulled beef; and for someone
like me -- it doesn't stink! The other day I had bought some Annie's
Chipotle sauce to add to a pork butt, but instead I used a hoisin sauce
recipe, so I had the Annie's left to try to do something with. I poured
enough sauce over the canned roast beef and baked it in the oven forever it
seems covered for quite a while, and it never fell apart.

The meat is in chunks like beef cut for stewmeat; however, there is no fat,
no gristle, and quite useful for anything you can imagine.
If one likes roast beef, it looks to me to be of good enough quality to
heat, add a little salt and pepper. I was impressed.

DH also bought the same kind of package of 4 cans of turkey -- it was not
mushy, but firm hunks. I used it in a turkey/rice/tomato soup concoction
Sandra Lee style. This meat is not like the canned chicken they have, which
absolutely pukes me. I was impressed again with the turkey pieces.

However, I am not into this kind of cooking in general, but it is pretty
darned good vitals to have on hand when there is a man in the house who gets
pretty darned hungry and wants meat handy when he damned well wants it.
Also he keeps on hand some Thai and other ethnic noodles cups that are a
little substantial.

These things come in handy even when I'm fixing my own type of meal, because
he will eat in addition to what I fix for myself, his own type of food that
he can do himself if he wishes.

But, I hope if you shop at Costco (I can't remember if you are one of those
opposed or not), give the canned roast beef a chance to keep on hand.
Dee Dee

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Next time you grocery-shop, pick up something to have on hand for
these kind of nights. In tonight's case, you could've had on hand a
very nice 'can' of roast beef, or any nice deli dinner in a package.
Even if it has to go in the oven, lie down and soothe your mind and
body while it is heating. Repeat after me: Life is wonderful.... life
is wonderful .... life is wonderful
Dee Dee

What is a can of roast beef? Don't think I've had one.

Michael

It is a brand Kirkland at Costco that JH picked up 4 cans in a package.
Since I am not a big meat eater, this sort of thing of product does not
appeal to me -- remembering in olden days the dog-meat with liquid-type
roast beef -- as well as just not appealing to me in general.

It is good for DH when he is hungry for meat and I am not. (He bought a
George Foreman - where are you Om? for some steaks.) Actually the roast
beef meat is quite good looking, doesn't have a bunch of gloop in it
when it comes out of the can and is not at all like pulled beef; and for
someone like me -- it doesn't stink! The other day I had bought some
Annie's Chipotle sauce to add to a pork butt, but instead I used a
hoisin sauce recipe, so I had the Annie's left to try to do something
with. I poured enough sauce over the canned roast beef and baked it in
the oven forever it seems covered for quite a while, and it never fell
apart.

The meat is in chunks like beef cut for stewmeat; however, there is no
fat, no gristle, and quite useful for anything you can imagine.
If one likes roast beef, it looks to me to be of good enough quality to
heat, add a little salt and pepper. I was impressed.

DH also bought the same kind of package of 4 cans of turkey -- it was
not mushy, but firm hunks. I used it in a turkey/rice/tomato soup
concoction Sandra Lee style. This meat is not like the canned chicken
they have, which absolutely pukes me. I was impressed again with the
turkey pieces.

However, I am not into this kind of cooking in general, but it is pretty
darned good vitals to have on hand when there is a man in the house who
gets pretty darned hungry and wants meat handy when he damned well wants
it. Also he keeps on hand some Thai and other ethnic noodles cups that
are a little substantial.

These things come in handy even when I'm fixing my own type of meal,
because he will eat in addition to what I fix for myself, his own type
of food that he can do himself if he wishes.

But, I hope if you shop at Costco (I can't remember if you are one of
those opposed or not), give the canned roast beef a chance to keep on
hand. Dee Dee

Canned meats (primarily made of beef) always smell like dog food to me.

The one rare exception is when I get a craving for Underwood Devilled Ham,
but that's not beef.

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Date: Thu, 12/6/07

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Canned meats (primarily made of beef) always smell like dog food to me.

What's more -- I generally think it is! The can I was talking about has no
smell of this whatsoever; I would swear it's been in an autoclave ;-))

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The one rare exception is when I get a craving for Underwood Devilled Ham,
but that's not beef.

I ate that many years ago and loved it -- but my imagination got the better
part of me. ;-))

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Canned meats (primarily made of beef) always smell like dog food to
me.

What's more -- I generally think it is! The can I was talking about
has no smell of this whatsoever; I would swear it's been in an
autoclave ;-))

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The one rare exception is when I get a craving for Underwood Devilled
Ham, but that's not beef.

I ate that many years ago and loved it -- but my imagination got the
better part of me. ;-))

The closest I have come to canned meats was something from Argentina, or
whatever mother tried to feed us. I had to have corned beef for St. Pats.
I bought a can of the nastiest corned beef from Argentina. I did not have
the kitchen space in the dorm to do a proper corned beef. IIRC I had a
bag of sauerkraut with it. Lots of horsey sauce from some fast food
place. College days. They were the best... kind of.

Michael

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Canned meats (primarily made of beef) always smell like dog food to me.

What's more -- I generally think it is! The can I was talking about has no
smell of this whatsoever; I would swear it's been in an autoclave ;-))

Which is basically exactly what a pressure canner is.

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On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 00:55:51 GMT, Janet Baraclough wrote:

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And since it's an AIDS facility, that would leave out many
dietary restrictions.

Why do you think that?

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Think?

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Know.

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If you disagree, then just spit it out and explain your
reasoning. Or is this some sort of bluff?

Not at all. I just don't understand the logic.

People with dietary restrictions for religious, ethical or health
reasons, don't usually give up those dietary preferences and
restrictions when they go into hospital or are ill or dying.

Janet.

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I doubt that one meal of anything will kill anyone, food allergies
excluded.

Nobody suggested it would. But these are very weak people who don't
need any additional headache, nausea, cramp, sweats, bloating and
diarrhoea etc. Just one meal can do it.

Janet.

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End Stage AIDS patients can have those problems no matter what they eat.
Or don't eat. But does that mean you'll only feed them what you think
they should have? No, you offer them a varied selection and let them
pick and choose based on how they feel at that very moment.

Gosh, where did you get that idea? Could it be from this earlier post
of mine which you dismissed as "pablum"?

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Often they couldn't take in much
at a time, so anything they could come back to later and pick at, was
welcome. Why not do, a buffet of fresh melon, grapes, pineapple, salads,
cheeses, home-made breads? Maybe some cold puddings you can make at
home...creme brulee, lemon meringue, chocolate cake, jelly or trifle.
For those who want something hot, you could bring in soup and heat it.
Vegetarians and people with religious restrictions will find plenty they
can enjoy.

Next you'll be telling us ham might not be a good idea (like I and
others did, including, the medics at the hospice M is cooking for).
Welcome on board, I've kept a seat warm for you :-)

Janet.

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I thought you said you wanted roast beef. At least look for a Lion's
Choice.

I didn't know there was one down on Manchester. I stopped there. It
was okay. I don't think any of those places are all that great but
the Lion's Choice gave aus jus.

They at least slice up an actual chunk of beef, unlike the "formed"
product Arby's uses.

Brian

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> Apparently that is how I'm thought of. I suppose if I had to be
> compared to someone Jessica Tandy would not be a bad deal 😉
>
> Michael
>
>

Not at all...

It is getting late. I want roast beef. I'm thinking deli meats. I'm
tired and do not want to go out for dinner. I've had a longish day
as it is. Gawd... maybe Arby's?

Michael

Next time you grocery-shop, pick up something to have on hand for
these kind of nights.

I have a few cans of Chunky soup in the pantry. Usually those are for
when I'm not feeling well, but sometimes fill in for tired as well.

Brian

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Janet Baraclough said:

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> I doubt that one meal of anything will kill anyone, food allergies
> excluded.
Nobody suggested it would. But these are very weak people who don't
need any additional headache, nausea, cramp, sweats, bloating and
diarrhoea etc. Just one meal can do it.

Janet.

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End Stage AIDS patients can have those problems no matter what they eat.
Or don't eat. But does that mean you'll only feed them what you think
they should have? No, you offer them a varied selection and let them
pick and choose based on how they feel at that very moment.

Gosh, where did you get that idea? Could it be from this earlier post
of mine which you dismissed as "pablum"?

I have said all along that a variety of food is more welcome than the
imposed "pablum" of bland hospital food. When trying to entice dietary
intake one should be offered a variety of flavors and textures. I have
said that all along. And that no hard and fast rules exist as to what
these patients should and should not eat medically. They should eat
whatever they desire. Eating for them is a small comfort as well as
nutritional booster.

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Next you'll be telling us ham might not be a good idea (like I and
others did, including, the medics at the hospice M is cooking for).
Welcome on board, I've kept a seat warm for you :-)

Janet.

Ham is as fine an idea as any other meat. If someone (and it isn't
common in this situation) has issues with it, they'll find something
else to eat.

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Michael 'Dog3 said:

I am still unhappy about this Miss Daisy thing. I need to make sure that
camera deal work in the back of the Nissan. I did not mess with it a

lot.

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We had a old guy in the neighborhood (Mr Showalter) who did a lot
of gardening in his front lawn. He went always bent over so the
crack of his ass was showing.

When we rode or walked by ands he was bending over, we always
called out, "Showalter's Bum".

Even though you are an "adult", yer MO has not changed...

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