vascdoc said:I tried the Park Cleaner but did not like it. It leaves a oil on the chain and it did not clean very well. I like a citrius degreaser. I too use a toothbrush and clean the chain every couple of hundred miles.
Note that I said I used mineral spirits in the cleaner, not the stuff Park puts in a bottle and sells for an arm and a leg. When I am done, the chain is dry to touch. Lately, because I got a free bottle and then bought another bottle, I've been using Dumonde Tech Lite to oil the chain with. From the odor it smells like a light oil with a citrus-based solvent. I suspect it's similar to DW-40, though different, in that it uses a solvent to help the oil penetrate, then the solvent evaporates.
In my experience, looking into the grunge left in the bottom of the Park chain cleaner, most of the grunge was left in there, rather than ending up on my patio deck. I leave shop towels under the chain as I work, to catch drips. An old toobrush works great for getting the spots the Park cleaner doesn't reach. The Park, in my case, continues to suspend the chain in mineral spirits, washing off anything that was loosened either by it's brushes or by my use of a toothbrush on the section of chain before entering into the Park cleaner.
One other lubricant I use on my bike is Tri-Flo. I like the tiny tube applicator because I can get it right on the pivot points of brakes and levers and such.