Looking for Try-All rims

Never mind, I finally found a place.

http://tinyurl.com/3uv82

Also, some places weigh the rim As 485g, although the tryall site says
420. Whatever, it's still lighter than the DX-32.

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I can't find the dimensions on these rims now, though. Does anyone know
their dimensions? Also, just kinda curous, should I get red, gold, or
blue? I'm leaning towards blue or gold, but red is kinda nice...

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That sould be a really nice setup. Don't forget to review the try-all
rim once the uni is built and you had a chance to ride it.

Is that hub an actual profile, or is it profile clone made by sh? If it
is a real profile, what did Steve do to it?

And, I'd go with the Red Rim

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I bought mine through Webcyclery, their a good company. One problem I
am having with the rim is with the holes. Make sure you use really good
rim tape and you probably want to wrap it atleast twice. After a
season of riding, the tape seperated and let the air out. Note, I am
running it tubeless. If you run a tube, the tape seperation will
definately blow the tube out. Riding in wet conditions or rain will
shorten the lifespan of the tape as the holes are all the way through
the rim. I ended up buying a section of steel facia (for a house),
aluminum gutter would also work, and cut a strip to go under the rim
tape to support the rim strip over the holes. I have had no other
issues since then.

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daino149 said:

*

Is that hub an actual profile, or is it profile clone made by sh? If
it is a real profile, what did Steve do to it?
*

i hope its differant than the 48 splined SH hub i tried. the Profiles
splines were loose and after about 1 hour. the back lash was huge. i
could slip the Profiles onto the axle without a mallet. the broched AL
cranks cranks that SH sent me later were good though (nice and tight)
but i wouldnt trust those for trials.

the hub i had is in my 'Super 29er gallery'
(http://gallery.unicyclist.com/Super-29er)

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I know vivalargo has a drilled tryall rim on his trials rig. I got to
ride it (im not sure he knows this lol) and it rides like a dream. Maybe
shoot him a pm if he doesnt see this thread.

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Thanks for the advice, Dan. I am thinking of red, but it just doesn seem
like it'll match the rest of the uni.

Dirtsurfer: I will be riding an innertube on this uni. I have a double
thickness dirtjumpind tube in it right now. I've pinch flatted through
the whole thing, and there has been a 1-2mm deep slice in the tube.
Still, it held the air and didn't leak. I think a regular drilled rim
specialty rimstrip will work out fine.

Jagur: Thanks for the warning. The hub I have sitting on my desk right
now is almost exactly the same hub as the one you rode on your 29'er. As
a matter of fact, until I saw that your hub was painted, I thought I
somehow got the same one. This one is the same hub that Steve was riding
at moab. The splines seem to be in fine shape except for some dirt and
grease in them, which I will clean out. I'll try anti-seize, and then,
if that fails, I'll go for locktite.

Thanks for the help. And if all else fails, I'll get a new profile hub
and warranty the cranks if they are damaged.

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jagur said:

* i hope its differant than the 48 splined SH hub i tried. the
Profiles splines were loose and after about 1 hour. the back lash was
huge. i could slip the Profiles onto the axle without a mallet. [/URL]
*

It's the same as the one you tried, Jagur, but this one is tighter.
I've been riding it for a couple years without any problems with my
Profile cranks. Bevan's Profile cranks might be loose though ... who
knows? That's the problem I had with trying to make Profile splined
hubs; I couldn't get a consistent fit from one to the next so I've
given up on trying to make hubs with the Profile spline and I'm having
much better luck making hubs with the KH splines.

This particular hub was laying around not being used so I let Bevan
sweet talk me into letting him try it. If the cranks are loose on it
then it would make a great paper weight.

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Speaking of which, thanks, Steve! I must say it is rather amazing how
each spline ends at the *exact* same point in the axle. Also, the welds
on the flanges are excellent. I wonder if you cnc'd this, since hand
cutting all those splines must be pretty painstaking... Thanks again, it
looks great. If it is loose, would a bit of locktite do anything to
help?

One last thing, there is a gouge through about 7 or eight splines on one
side. I don't know how it could have happened, and is rather
inconsequent, since the bearing and spacers cover it, but I do wonder
how it got there. do you have any ideas?

Any other ideas on rim color? I'm still looking at gold for the
pimptastic factor, but a blue or red rim would also be cool. I need
help...

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gerblefranklin said:

*Any other ideas on rim color? I'm still looking at gold for the
pimptastic factor, but a blue or red rim would also be cool. I need
help... *

What color rim strip can you get? WebCyclery carries the Try-All rim
strip, but it looks like they've only got black.

A red rim with the black rim strip would look nice. Or you could try
putting some sort of colored ribbon under the rim strip to give it some
color.

As for the machining on the Profile hub. I think Profile rolls the
splines into the axle. It doesn't look to me that they're machine cut.
Rolling the splines into the axle would require specialized tooling to
do, but would be very quick and efficient on a mass production scale.
I'm not sure what Steve did to cut the splines. I suspect they're CNC
machined.

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I've asked a bunch of people, and Dan and john are the only people who
said red. Everyone else said blue. I think I'm gonna go with blue.

The coloring of the rim strip would be cool. A bit of nylon ribbon would
work for coloring. I could also check with my LDHBS (local downhill bike
shop) and see what color strips they have...

I know that Steve machined the splines, but I don't know what kind of
mill he used. Can you explain what rolling a spline is? Also, do you
have any idea what accuracy they machine the splines to? A local shop
said they get .0005" accuracy so it would always be possible to machine
a new hub out of solid chromoly. I assume you have to machine it before
heat treating.

Does anyone know anything about whether locktite would remove play from
the splines? What color would I use?

Edit: would a red and black rim match blue or orange pedals? Oh the
decisions...

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Rolling is a process that is commonly used to make threads on bolts and
similar objects. You have a die with the thread pattern and you press
the die over the part as the part is rolled under the die. The same
process could be used to make the Profile splines on the axle. No
material is removed from the part when threads or splines are rolled
into the part. The metal is just squished and moved around. Here's a
page that gives a brief explanation of the process: 'thread rolling'
(http://tinyurl.com/5obld)

Choose your rim strip wisely. I think the Try-All rim strip is the only
one that is going to be wide enough. You're also going to want a rim
strip that isn't taped to the rim because the adhesive that is exposed
by the holes in the rim will get all gunky.

For color coordination I'd go with pedals that are the same color as the
rim. The Odyssey Jim Cielencki pedals are available in blue and red so
you'll be able to match whichever rim color you decide on.

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I have a set of blue snafu's and a set of the old green ones. The green
ones are the ons currently on my uni. My next set of pedals is gonna be
a set of jim c's, probably in orange, so I guess a red rim would look
better. But still, blue is pretyt sick and jim c's come in blue...

I understand how rolling works now, thanks. The method for rolling a
spline is much different from the method of rolling a thread, though. I
will check my standard profile hub tonight to see if they roll or
machine their splines. I think it would be possible to tell because if
they machine the splines then the spline trenches will taper off at the
end of the splines, like on an Onza hub. If they roll them, then it is
likely that they simply end at a distinct spot. I am not sure of this,
though. It's possible that they use a custom rolling machine that tapers
off so that the splines don't end abruptly. I would like to know,
though...

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