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i'll be riding to/from work at 6:45am and 6pm - a 15 mile trip that without incident will be taking
me just over an hour

roughly when will the nights / mornings start drawing in and require lights? or is it worth getting
setup now for the odd time there is dim light?

The following link might help. You may be able to find something more local to you.
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doobrie said:

i'll be riding to/from work at 6:45am and 6pm - a 15 mile trip that without incident will be
taking me just over an hour

roughly when will the nights / mornings start drawing in and require lights? or is it worth
getting setup now for the odd time there is dim light?

Don't know when it starts to get dark, but I always keep a set of lights on the bike just in case. I
used them last week when I hit an unexpected bank of mist at 6:30am. I also feel a bit safer with a
rear light on when it rains heavily and there's lots of spray etc.

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i'll be riding to/from work at 6:45am and 6pm - a 15 mile trip that without incident will be
taking me just over an hour

roughly when will the nights / mornings start drawing in and require lights? or is it worth
getting setup now for the odd time there is dim light?

Download this program DX Atlas 2.2 , enter your location and you can find your local sun up/down
times for every day.

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"Russell Fulker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Don't know when it starts to get dark, but I always keep a set of lights on the bike just in case.
I used them last week when I hit an unexpected bank of mist at 6:30am. I also feel a bit safer
with a rear light on when it rains heavily and there's lots of spray etc.

I have two sets, I keep a cheap led set on the bike at all times and I double up with the main ones
when it's dark. Simon

Enjoyed browsing your website yesterday Simon. Particularly enjoyed the accounts of your quest to
ride 200 miles in one day

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i'll be riding to/from work at 6:45am and 6pm - a 15 mile trip that without incident will be
taking me just over an hour

roughly when will the nights / mornings start drawing in and require lights? or is it worth
getting setup now for the odd time there is dim light?

Download this program DX Atlas 2.2 , enter your location and you can find your local sun up/down
times for every day.

dxatlas.comDownload.aspOpen ↗

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doobrie said:

i'll be riding to/from work at 6:45am and 6pm - a 15 mile trip that without incident will be taking
me just over an hour

roughly when will the nights / mornings start drawing in and require lights? or is it worth getting
setup now for the odd time there is dim light?

On 23rd September (the equinox), sunrise and sunset will be 7 am and 7 pm (BST, so 6 am and
6 pm GMT).

Pete Barrett

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Don't know when it starts to get dark, but I always keep a set of lights on the bike just in case.
I used them last week when I hit an unexpected bank of mist at 6:30am. I also feel a bit safer
with a rear light on when it rains heavily and there's lots of spray etc.

I have two sets, I keep a cheap led set on the bike at all times and I double up with the main
ones when it's dark. Simon

Ditto here. The LED set provides an emergency "here I am" function and stays on the bike 24/7 off
road or on.

I would then double up with a "where am I going" set if required.

Wiggle have a good deal for August on Cateye ABS20's:

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Ditto here. The LED set provides an emergency "here I am" function and stays on the bike 24/7 off
road or on.

I would then double up with a "where am I going" set if required.

Wiggle have a good deal for August on Cateye ABS20's:

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yes, saw those ealier ... i think if my bike lasts the week (not overly confident about that right
now!) i'll fit some leds ... for the sort of riding i'll be doing rear visibility is my main
target, i dont think i'll have visibility problems to need major front lighting but i wont know
that for sure until i 'see' the route in the dark ... i think i'll drive the route one night about
11pm to get a feel for it - its the people driving over me from behind that im aiming to defeat to
start with!

with those hi-vis yellow flourescent workmans jacket type things that have the silver stripes on
them, does the built in silver stripe provide a similair thing to the scotch light stuff?

doobrie said:

i'll be riding to/from work at 6:45am and 6pm - a 15 mile trip that without incident will be
taking me just over an hour

roughly when will the nights / mornings start drawing in and require lights? or is it worth
getting setup now for the odd time there is dim light?

Youll really notice it after the clocks go back. I seems to get dark soon after 5.00pm after that.

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doobrie said:

with those hi-vis yellow flourescent workmans jacket type things that have the silver stripes on
them, does the built in silver stripe provide a similair thing to the scotch light stuff?

Yes, the yellow is high visibility, the silver/white stripes are reflective.

Reflectives are a *great* way to announce your presence to motor vehicles after dark. A couple of
bands here and there and in a set of headlights you'll light up like a christmas tree.

Hampshire County Council have an online road safety webpage/shop that sell reflectives very cheaply
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Enjoyed browsing your website yesterday Simon. Particularly enjoyed the accounts of your quest to
ride 200 miles in one day

I must remember to remove those embarassing stories sometime! Simon

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yes, saw those ealier ... i think if my bike lasts the week (not overly confident about that right
now!) i'll fit some leds ... for the sort of riding i'll be doing rear visibility is my main
target, i dont think i'll have visibility problems to need major front lighting but i wont know
that for sure until i 'see' the route in the dark ... i think i'll drive the route one night about
11pm to get a feel for it - its the people driving over me from behind that im aiming to defeat to
start with!

People hitting you from behind is one of the rarer forms of bike accident. Get some front lights as
well because that is where the main risk is of not being seen. As with others here I keep a set of
LED front and back lights on all the time for if I get caught out or the main light fails - they are
light, batteries last a long time and are good for being seen. Then add more powerful lights during
those parts of the year that require them.

Tony

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doobrie said:

i'll be riding to/from work at 6:45am and 6pm - a 15 mile trip that without incident will be
taking me just over an hour

That's the thing - if you get an incident you'll be stuck out later. Also it gets darker earlier
when it's overcast and raining. I'd say it's worth getting setup within the next couple of weeks -
at least for the rear light. Rear lights show up sooner in twilight and are more important than
fronts, IMO.

~PB

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Put the name of your town in the weather box. Click on the five-day forecast - it will tell you
precisely the lighting up times of your town.

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Put the name of your town in the weather box. Click on the five-day forecast - it will tell you
precisely the lighting up times of your town.

Does anyone know where I can get the sunrise/set times for the whole year - I'm interested in the
rate of change?

doobrie said:

with those hi-vis yellow flourescent workmans jacket type things that have the silver stripes on
them, does the built in silver stripe provide a similair thing to the scotch light stuff?

Yes, the silver stripe is reflective. Frequently it _is_ scotchlite (TM and all).

If you want to see that it meets some sort of standard, look for at least 'class 2'. I think the
standard is actually BS EN 471. Class 2 is what you need for working on roads. Personally, I get
class 3 - which is what you need for working on motorways.

Class 3 has more reflective area than class 2, but the main benefit for cycling is that it has
arms with reflective bands round the arms. This might help to make arm-signals visible, which is
why I use it.

I've also seen research that found that putting flourescent areas on the arms makes a person more
conspicuous than on teh torso, but I don't remember what the hypothesis for why was (torso is a
single block, and might therfore be a bollard, while bollards rarely have arms? arms move around
more than torsos? dunno), so it might not apply for typical cycling movements.

On the topic of hi-vis, I increasingly see orange stuff. in the UK, orange is for railways and
'saturn yellow' is for roads. I think some EC thingy or something now tolerates orange for roads.
Drawing on the study that found all that matters conspicuity-wise is how closely you look like a
policeman, I don't use orange for cycling. For the real UFO-effect, however, I have a nice
flourescent orange boiler-suit, with reflective hoops on arms, legs, torso, and over the shoulders.
It's almost worth cycling in it to see if someone actually dares say smidsy.

The only down side of class 3 is it's much more difficult to find - you need somehwhere that
supplies serious roadworks contractors rather than just builders (so a normal builder's merchant
won't do). I know screwfix do class 3 jackets (www.screwfix.com), which might actually be easiest.

regards, Ian SMith
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Geoff Pearson said:

Does anyone know where I can get the sunrise/set times for the whole year - I'm interested in the
rate of change?

There's an american web site whose name I've forgotten, but I've a vague recollection that it might
be coastguards. You give it a position and a timezone and it gives you a chart of sunrise and set
for the year.

If no-one comes up with it, I'll try and check teh reference at work and post again.

regards, Ian SMith
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bbc.co.ukbbc.co.ukOpen ↗

Put the name of your town in the weather box. Click on the five-day forecast - it will tell you
precisely the lighting up times of your town.

Does anyone know where I can get the sunrise/set times for the whole year - I'm interested in the
rate of change?

dxatlas.comDownload.aspOpen ↗

You can advance the date by day/week or month.

Simon

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Put the name of your town in the weather box. Click on the five-day forecast - it will tell you
precisely the lighting up times of your town.

brilliant, thats my favourite one so far, thanks 😉