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  1. "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Doug Kanter said:

    "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    My local supermarket sells a store-made sauce for almost everything, and
    they include those sauces in recipe cards on the counter near the other
    ingredients. Roast beef "au jus" - needs a container of Wegman's ready to
    serve au jus. Some cooks will consistently buy the product. Others might
    run
    across the words "au jus" somewhere else, like a restaurant menu or
    cookbook, figure out it's a generic term, and make their own. So what? Has
    the store sinned by tagging its name onto "au jus" in a recipe?

    When did you turn into chung's clone? I have never mentioned "sin"
    anywhere. Do you feel you have to stoop to putting words in my mouth
    to win something that you have already lost?

    I backed up my statement that it does happen. I made the case that the
    online recipe industry is RIPE for this to happen, simply because it
    has happened in the past.

    I see you are having a mental problem over this, so, take the last
    shot - I do not want to further contribute to your deteriorating
    mental condition.

    jim

    When you use a group of words such as "industry is ripe for this to happen",
    that phrase suggests something negative. If you don't like the word "sin",
    substitute something else, and then tell me why the concept connotes
    negative thoughts.

  2. Doug Kanter said:


    "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doug Kanter said:

    "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    My local supermarket sells a store-made sauce for almost everything, and
    they include those sauces in recipe cards on the counter near the other
    ingredients. Roast beef "au jus" - needs a container of Wegman's ready to
    serve au jus. Some cooks will consistently buy the product. Others might
    run
    across the words "au jus" somewhere else, like a restaurant menu or
    cookbook, figure out it's a generic term, and make their own. So what? Has
    the store sinned by tagging its name onto "au jus" in a recipe?

    When did you turn into chung's clone? I have never mentioned "sin"
    anywhere. Do you feel you have to stoop to putting words in my mouth
    to win something that you have already lost?

    I backed up my statement that it does happen. I made the case that the
    online recipe industry is RIPE for this to happen, simply because it
    has happened in the past.

    I see you are having a mental problem over this, so, take the last
    shot - I do not want to further contribute to your deteriorating
    mental condition.

    jim

    When you use a group of words such as "industry is ripe for this to happen",
    that phrase suggests something negative. If you don't like the word "sin",
    substitute something else, and then tell me why the concept connotes
    negative thoughts.

    BTW, dougie, if you can read, it happens right here in rfc, does it
    not - why there's a thread on Cincinatti Chili with, OMG, RO-TEL
    mentioned!

    If too many people do mention brand names again and again, it would be
    negative. L:earn to read and comprehend.

    If it connotes negative thoughts, that is YOUR problem, not mine. that
    usage isolated statement could be read positively. Are you always so
    pessimistic?

    jim

  3. "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    When did you turn into chung's clone? I have never mentioned "sin"
    anywhere. Do you feel you have to stoop to putting words in my mouth
    to win something that you have already lost?

    I backed up my statement that it does happen. I made the case that the
    online recipe industry is RIPE for this to happen, simply because it
    has happened in the past.

    I see you are having a mental problem over this, so, take the last
    shot - I do not want to further contribute to your deteriorating
    mental condition.

    jim

    When you use a group of words such as "industry is ripe for this to
    happen",
    that phrase suggests something negative. If you don't like the word "sin",
    substitute something else, and then tell me why the concept connotes
    negative thoughts.

    BTW, dougie, if you can read, it happens right here in rfc, does it
    not - why there's a thread on Cincinatti Chili with, OMG, RO-TEL
    mentioned!

    If too many people do mention brand names again and again, it would be
    negative. L:earn to read and comprehend.

    If it connotes negative thoughts, that is YOUR problem, not mine. that
    usage isolated statement could be read positively. Are you always so
    pessimistic?

    jim

    On March 24th, you wrote this:
    "Further, a lot of these sites are full of company generated recipes
    you can get off their websites. They have their employees/pr staff
    load them up so gullible people like you will assume that5 it was an
    actual personal recommendation."

    In the last sentence of that paragraph, you used a combination of words
    which suggests some sort of a behind-the-scenes plot foisted on the public
    by "companies". Please explain.

  4. Doug Kanter said:

    "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > When did you turn into chung's clone? I have never mentioned "sin"
    > anywhere. Do you feel you have to stoop to putting words in my mouth
    > to win something that you have already lost?
    >
    > I backed up my statement that it does happen. I made the case that the
    > online recipe industry is RIPE for this to happen, simply because it
    > has happened in the past.
    >
    > I see you are having a mental problem over this, so, take the last
    > shot - I do not want to further contribute to your deteriorating
    > mental condition.
    >
    >
    > jim
    >

    When you use a group of words such as "industry is ripe for this to
    happen",
    that phrase suggests something negative. If you don't like the word "sin",
    substitute something else, and then tell me why the concept connotes
    negative thoughts.

    BTW, dougie, if you can read, it happens right here in rfc, does it
    not - why there's a thread on Cincinatti Chili with, OMG, RO-TEL
    mentioned!

    If too many people do mention brand names again and again, it would be
    negative. L:earn to read and comprehend.

    If it connotes negative thoughts, that is YOUR problem, not mine. that
    usage isolated statement could be read positively. Are you always so
    pessimistic?

    jim

    On March 24th, you wrote this:
    "Further, a lot of these sites are full of company generated recipes
    you can get off their websites. They have their employees/pr staff
    load them up so gullible people like you will assume that5 it was an
    actual personal recommendation."

    In the last sentence of that paragraph, you used a combination of words
    which suggests some sort of a behind-the-scenes plot foisted on the public
    by "companies". Please explain.

    I already did. Am I to understand you have ADD and can not remmembe
    what you just read? Remember me saying I was paid to do this at one
    time?

    When you have a question with some actual substance in it, please ask.

    But, first, I would siuggest that you go back over the original set of
    posts and re-read them in the company of someone who can explain
    things to you.

    jim

  5. "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doug Kanter said:

    "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >> When did you turn into chung's clone? I have never mentioned "sin"
    >> anywhere. Do you feel you have to stoop to putting words in my mouth
    >> to win something that you have already lost?
    >>
    >> I backed up my statement that it does happen. I made the case that the
    >> online recipe industry is RIPE for this to happen, simply because it
    >> has happened in the past.
    >>
    >> I see you are having a mental problem over this, so, take the last
    >> shot - I do not want to further contribute to your deteriorating
    >> mental condition.
    >>
    >>
    >> jim
    >>
    >
    >When you use a group of words such as "industry is ripe for this to
    >happen",
    >that phrase suggests something negative. If you don't like the word
    >"sin",
    >substitute something else, and then tell me why the concept connotes
    >negative thoughts.
    >

    BTW, dougie, if you can read, it happens right here in rfc, does it
    not - why there's a thread on Cincinatti Chili with, OMG, RO-TEL
    mentioned!

    If too many people do mention brand names again and again, it would be
    negative. L:earn to read and comprehend.

    If it connotes negative thoughts, that is YOUR problem, not mine. that
    usage isolated statement could be read positively. Are you always so
    pessimistic?

    jim

    On March 24th, you wrote this:
    "Further, a lot of these sites are full of company generated recipes
    you can get off their websites. They have their employees/pr staff
    load them up so gullible people like you will assume that5 it was an
    actual personal recommendation."

    In the last sentence of that paragraph, you used a combination of words
    which suggests some sort of a behind-the-scenes plot foisted on the public
    by "companies". Please explain.

    I already did. Am I to understand you have ADD and can not remmembe
    what you just read? Remember me saying I was paid to do this at one
    time?

    When you have a question with some actual substance in it, please ask.

    But, first, I would siuggest that you go back over the original set of
    posts and re-read them in the company of someone who can explain
    things to you.

    jim

    You said you were paid for doing this. And, unless I'm mistaken, you're
    suggesting that it's a negative thing, RIGHT? The only way you've supported
    that claim is by saying that the recipes look like someone's favorite. In
    fact, they ALL are. If Heinz posts a recipe, you can safely assume that one
    or more humans actually tested it, and probably even asked fellow employees
    to taste it. This is how it's been done since as far back as I can remember
    (late 1950s), when my family entered the grocery business.

    The only difference between a recipe from a manufacturer and one from an
    individual is.....well....nothing, actually. One may be just as good as the
    other.

  6. Doug Kanter said:


    "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Doug Kanter said:

    "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    >>> When did you turn into chung's clone? I have never mentioned "sin"
    >>> anywhere. Do you feel you have to stoop to putting words in my mouth
    >>> to win something that you have already lost?
    >>>
    >>> I backed up my statement that it does happen. I made the case that the
    >>> online recipe industry is RIPE for this to happen, simply because it
    >>> has happened in the past.
    >>>
    >>> I see you are having a mental problem over this, so, take the last
    >>> shot - I do not want to further contribute to your deteriorating
    >>> mental condition.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> jim
    >>>
    >>
    >>When you use a group of words such as "industry is ripe for this to
    >>happen",
    >>that phrase suggests something negative. If you don't like the word
    >>"sin",
    >>substitute something else, and then tell me why the concept connotes
    >>negative thoughts.
    >>
    >
    > BTW, dougie, if you can read, it happens right here in rfc, does it
    > not - why there's a thread on Cincinatti Chili with, OMG, RO-TEL
    > mentioned!
    >
    > If too many people do mention brand names again and again, it would be
    > negative. L:earn to read and comprehend.
    >
    > If it connotes negative thoughts, that is YOUR problem, not mine. that
    > usage isolated statement could be read positively. Are you always so
    > pessimistic?
    >
    >
    > jim
    >

    On March 24th, you wrote this:
    "Further, a lot of these sites are full of company generated recipes
    you can get off their websites. They have their employees/pr staff
    load them up so gullible people like you will assume that5 it was an
    actual personal recommendation."

    In the last sentence of that paragraph, you used a combination of words
    which suggests some sort of a behind-the-scenes plot foisted on the public
    by "companies". Please explain.

    I already did. Am I to understand you have ADD and can not remmembe
    what you just read? Remember me saying I was paid to do this at one
    time?

    When you have a question with some actual substance in it, please ask.

    But, first, I would siuggest that you go back over the original set of
    posts and re-read them in the company of someone who can explain
    things to you.

    jim

    You said you were paid for doing this. And, unless I'm mistaken, you're
    suggesting that it's a negative thing, RIGHT?

    I said that if it becomes too prevalent it MAY be a bad thing. Putting
    words into someone else's mouth is a loser's tactic, you know.

    Quoted message said:

    The only way you've supported
    that claim is by saying that the recipes look like someone's favorite. In
    fact, they ALL are. If Heinz posts a recipe, you can safely assume that one
    or more humans actually tested it, and probably even asked fellow employees
    to taste it. This is how it's been done since as far back as I can remember
    (late 1950s), when my family entered the grocery business.

    I imagine they are all tested and employees sure can serve as guinea
    pigs for the tastings. And you where what, about a year old back them?
    ;-> good memory you have.

    Now, if Heinz puts out that cookbook, you certainly would expect them
    to pitch their products over the competitors. That can be seen in any
    of the "famous brands" books that are out there.

    But when you put up a recipe on a web site under your own name
    featuring Heinz and do not reveal that you are one of those employees
    or have been paid for pitching this, it is a bit misleading, isn;t it?

    Quoted message said:

    The only difference between a recipe from a manufacturer and one from an
    individual is.....well....nothing, actually. One may be just as good as the
    other.

    Never made any statement one way or another about that. I've had some
    home-cooked from Great Aunt Bessie's meals that would choke the
    strongest of us. It has to do with knowing who is behind the
    publication of the recipe.

    jim

  7. "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You said you were paid for doing this. And, unless I'm mistaken, you're
    suggesting that it's a negative thing, RIGHT?

    I said that if it becomes too prevalent it MAY be a bad thing. Putting
    words into someone else's mouth is a loser's tactic, you know.

    A well written newspaper article (per most journalism schools) should
    contain an accurate summary of the intent of the article, and subsequent
    paragraphs should expand on the concept. In your previous messages, you did
    thing #1, but until this last message, you really didn't do such a great job
    of thing #2.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The only way you've supported
    that claim is by saying that the recipes look like someone's favorite. In
    fact, they ALL are. If Heinz posts a recipe, you can safely assume that
    one
    or more humans actually tested it, and probably even asked fellow
    employees
    to taste it. This is how it's been done since as far back as I can
    remember
    (late 1950s), when my family entered the grocery business.

    I imagine they are all tested and employees sure can serve as guinea
    pigs for the tastings. And you where what, about a year old back them?
    ;-> good memory you have.

    Seven, when I have my earliest memories of hanging out at the office and
    watching the company kitchen action. Apparently, my memories are pretty
    accurate, according to my dad.

    Quoted message said:

    Now, if Heinz puts out that cookbook, you certainly would expect them
    to pitch their products over the competitors. That can be seen in any
    of the "famous brands" books that are out there.

    But when you put up a recipe on a web site under your own name
    featuring Heinz and do not reveal that you are one of those employees
    or have been paid for pitching this, it is a bit misleading, isn;t it?

    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Pick any common dish and
    you'll find a million versions of it. No matter where you find a recipe,
    it's a [censored] shoot, and chances are you'll end up customizing it a little.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The only difference between a recipe from a manufacturer and one from an
    individual is.....well....nothing, actually. One may be just as good as
    the
    other.

    Never made any statement one way or another about that. I've had some
    home-cooked from Great Aunt Bessie's meals that would choke the
    strongest of us. It has to do with knowing who is behind the
    publication of the recipe.

    The quality of a dish you're tasting may have little to do with the talents
    of the chef. Some people are great at following directions. If the
    directions contain anything vague, such as "add pepper to taste", they lose
    their bearings.

  8. "Doug Kanter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A well written newspaper article (per most journalism schools) should
    contain an accurate summary of the intent of the article, and subsequent
    paragraphs should expand on the concept. In your previous messages, you
    did thing #1, but until this last message, you really didn't do such a
    great job of thing #2.

    Did somebody say "not enough coffee yet"??? :-) First line should've begun
    with "The first paragraph of a well written....."

  9. Doug Kanter said:

    "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You said you were paid for doing this. And, unless I'm mistaken, you're
    suggesting that it's a negative thing, RIGHT?

    I said that if it becomes too prevalent it MAY be a bad thing. Putting
    words into someone else's mouth is a loser's tactic, you know.

    A well written newspaper article (per most journalism schools) should
    contain an accurate summary of the intent of the article, and subsequent
    paragraphs should expand on the concept. In your previous messages, you did
    thing #1, but until this last message, you really didn't do such a great job
    of thing #2.

    Well there's your problem - I am not writing a newspaper article, am
    I? Sure am not. I stressed the word "may" a couple of times. I see it
    escaped your attention and you have followed up in ignorance on this
    point.

    snip

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Now, if Heinz puts out that cookbook, you certainly would expect them
    to pitch their products over the competitors. That can be seen in any
    of the "famous brands" books that are out there.

    But when you put up a recipe on a web site under your own name
    featuring Heinz and do not reveal that you are one of those employees
    or have been paid for pitching this, it is a bit misleading, isn;t it?

    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this. Pick any common dish and
    you'll find a million versions of it. No matter where you find a recipe,
    it's a [censored] shoot, and chances are you'll end up customizing it a little.

    Your ethical stand is not as high as mine on this point. If someone
    misleads you deliberately, I don't like it - apparently, it is okay
    for you to be thus mislead. Pity.

    jim

  10. Doug Kanter said:

    "Doug Kanter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    A well written newspaper article (per most journalism schools) should
    contain an accurate summary of the intent of the article, and subsequent
    paragraphs should expand on the concept. In your previous messages, you
    did thing #1, but until this last message, you really didn't do such a
    great job of thing #2.

    Did somebody say "not enough coffee yet"??? :-) First line should've begun
    with "The first paragraph of a well written....."

    The intent of a newspaper article should be to relay news/information.
    The first paragrah should answer the who, what, . . . sequence.

    jim

  11. "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Your ethical stand is not as high as mine on this point. If someone
    misleads you deliberately, I don't like it - apparently, it is okay
    for you to be thus mislead. Pity.

    jim

    You must be much easier to mislead.

  12. Doug Kanter said:

    "ensenadajim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Your ethical stand is not as high as mine on this point. If someone
    misleads you deliberately, I don't like it - apparently, it is okay
    for you to be thus mislead. Pity.

    jim

    You must be much easier to mislead.

    It is hard to be mislead whern you have no standard.

    jim

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