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  1. Well, I've stopped my statin (5 mg Crestor) - it was Dr. Mirkin's
    comment that statins delay recovery from exercise. That may be why
    for years I haven't gained strength at the gym. If I did have at least
    one risk factor for heart disease, besides age, I would keep on
    statins. My diet and exercise and moderated drinking have boosted my
    HDL from 35 to 69 - and I estimate my total chol will be 200 without
    Crestor - giving me a good ratio. If not, I can always go back on
    Crestor.

    [email hidden] (Preston Rich) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Brad--

    Don't let this group scare you away from taking your statin. IMHO
    that's a big mistake assuming you are not suffering debilitating
    myositis. There are just too many positive clinical trials on this
    stuff to run away from it so quickly. However, I have decided not to
    add a fibtare like gemfibrozil, which would really lower my trigs on
    balance, because of some of the newer trials of their combined effects
    (not because of Baycor).

    -Preston

    [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Preston,

    Re BP and Hba1c: super numbers for you! I agree with you, 9 fish oil
    capsules would be unpleasant. Personally I eat either salmon or
    canned herring every day. Moderate drinking (up to 2 drinks a day) may
    increase HDL and (I believe) low BG, at least temporarily. Of course,
    more than that is harmful. This newsgroup has scared me away from
    taking my statin (Crestor 5 mg).

    [email hidden] (Preston Rich) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Brad--

    Sorry for the delayed response. My HbA1c is 5.5 and BP is 100/60.
    Boy, that's a LOT of fish oil ;-) I'll smell like a dead grouper ;-)

    -Preston

    [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > Preston,
    >
    > Re: HDL went from 42 to 50 - very good. I got mine to go from 35 to
    > 69 - moderate drinking, eating oily fish every day,over 1
    >
    > hour aerobic exercise daily, and eating moderate amounts of "good"
    > fats (olive oil, nuts). Two key numbers for diabetics -
    >
    > Hba1c and blood pressure. How do you rate on those? Did you see the
    > AHA article on fish oil capsules and/or oily fish - to
    >
    > combat high trig you may consume up to 9 capsules a day?
    > http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/106/21/2747
    >
    > [email hidden] (Preston Rich) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > Interestingly enough, in the span between this test above and my
    > > immediately prior one, the only change I made was to drink 1 lite beer
    > > daily w/dinner. My HDL went from 42 to 50.
    > >
    > > -Preston
    > >
    > >
    > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > > Preston,
    > > >
    > > > Your diabetes dramatically increases your chd risk. A low ldl is good
    > > > prevention. You might look into niaspan (increase HDL).
    > > >
    > > > [email hidden] (Preston Rich) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > > > Sorry. Meant to say "...controlled w/1000 mg. _Metformin_ bid."
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > [email hidden] (Preston Rich) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > > > > I am a 62 yr. old T2 diabetic controlled w/1000 mg. lipitor bid. I'm
    > > > > > also on a beta blocker w/HCTZ and atorvastatin (Lipitor 10 mg). My
    > > > > > latest serum tests came in at:
    > > > > >
    > > > > > TC 126
    > > > > > TG 167
    > > > > > HDL 50
    > > > > > LDL 42
    > > > > > vLDL 33
    > > > > >
    > > > > > What are the consequences of such a low TC and LDL? Should I consider
    > > > > > coming off the statin and go on a fibrate like gemfibrozil to better
    > > > > > target my trigs (which sometimes go up to 350-400 w/my metabolic
    > > > > > syndrome)?
    > > > > >
    > > > > > -Preston

  2. On 31 Oct 2003 19:52:22 -0800, [email hidden] (Brad

    Sheppard) said:

    Well, I've stopped my statin (5 mg Crestor) - it was Dr. Mirkin's
    comment that statins delay recovery from exercise. That may be why
    for years I haven't gained strength at the gym.

    I had a similar experience with Zocor. I was having significant
    problems with exercise, but no detectable problems according to lab
    results. My doctor insisted I was imagining it. I finally gave up
    Zocor, and the gym workouts were wonderful by comparison. No aches,
    and much better progress in strength and stamina.

    Quoted message said:

    My diet and exercise have boosted my

    I changed diets also, and have had very good results. My doctor is
    happy with the lab numbers even though I stopped Zocor.

    Paul

  3. It's interesting how you were put on a statin w/only one risk factor.
    Doc's just LUV this stuff ;-)

    -Preston

    [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, I've stopped my statin (5 mg Crestor) - it was Dr. Mirkin's
    comment that statins delay recovery from exercise. That may be why
    for years I haven't gained strength at the gym. If I did have at least
    one risk factor for heart disease, besides age, I would keep on
    statins. My diet and exercise and moderated drinking have boosted my
    HDL from 35 to 69 - and I estimate my total chol will be 200 without
    Crestor - giving me a good ratio. If not, I can always go back on
    Crestor.

    [email hidden] (Preston Rich) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Brad--

    Don't let this group scare you away from taking your statin. IMHO
    that's a big mistake assuming you are not suffering debilitating
    myositis. There are just too many positive clinical trials on this
    stuff to run away from it so quickly. However, I have decided not to
    add a fibtare like gemfibrozil, which would really lower my trigs on
    balance, because of some of the newer trials of their combined effects
    (not because of Baycor).

    -Preston

    [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Preston,

    Re BP and Hba1c: super numbers for you! I agree with you, 9 fish oil
    capsules would be unpleasant. Personally I eat either salmon or
    canned herring every day. Moderate drinking (up to 2 drinks a day) may
    increase HDL and (I believe) low BG, at least temporarily. Of course,
    more than that is harmful. This newsgroup has scared me away from
    taking my statin (Crestor 5 mg).

    [email hidden] (Preston Rich) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > Brad--
    >
    > Sorry for the delayed response. My HbA1c is 5.5 and BP is 100/60.
    > Boy, that's a LOT of fish oil ;-) I'll smell like a dead grouper ;-)
    >
    > -Preston
    >
    > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > Preston,
    > >
    > > Re: HDL went from 42 to 50 - very good. I got mine to go from 35 to
    > > 69 - moderate drinking, eating oily fish every day,over 1
    > >
    > > hour aerobic exercise daily, and eating moderate amounts of "good"
    > > fats (olive oil, nuts). Two key numbers for diabetics -
    > >
    > > Hba1c and blood pressure. How do you rate on those? Did you see the
    > > AHA article on fish oil capsules and/or oily fish - to
    > >
    > > combat high trig you may consume up to 9 capsules a day?
    > > http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/106/21/2747
    > >
    > > [email hidden] (Preston Rich) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > > Interestingly enough, in the span between this test above and my
    > > > immediately prior one, the only change I made was to drink 1 lite beer
    > > > daily w/dinner. My HDL went from 42 to 50.
    > > >
    > > > -Preston
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > [email hidden] (Brad Sheppard) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > > > Preston,
    > > > >
    > > > > Your diabetes dramatically increases your chd risk. A low ldl is good
    > > > > prevention. You might look into niaspan (increase HDL).
    > > > >
    > > > > [email hidden] (Preston Rich) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > > > > Sorry. Meant to say "...controlled w/1000 mg. _Metformin_ bid."
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > [email hidden] (Preston Rich) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    > > > > > > I am a 62 yr. old T2 diabetic controlled w/1000 mg. lipitor bid. I'm
    > > > > > > also on a beta blocker w/HCTZ and atorvastatin (Lipitor 10 mg). My
    > > > > > > latest serum tests came in at:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > TC 126
    > > > > > > TG 167
    > > > > > > HDL 50
    > > > > > > LDL 42
    > > > > > > vLDL 33
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > What are the consequences of such a low TC and LDL? Should I consider
    > > > > > > coming off the statin and go on a fibrate like gemfibrozil to better
    > > > > > > target my trigs (which sometimes go up to 350-400 w/my metabolic
    > > > > > > syndrome)?
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > -Preston

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