SnD asks - > what is more bombproof for the rear wheel : a > cross 2, cross 3, anything else? ..I'm a KISS proponent...quality materials, workmanship and a cross 3 pattern will suffice for virtually every condition/situation PERIOD!...
If that's how you "keep it simple", then I recommend that you try to lace a 20" rim to a Rohloff Speedhub using a cross-3 pattern. Your outlook will develop some complexity!
Chalo
Nah, 16 spoked wheel laced 4X ! That will teach him 😉
On Jan 2, 5:31 pm, daveornee <daveornee.32l...@no-
mx.forums.cyclingforums.com said:
Squat'n Dive Wrote:> what is more bombproof for the rear wheel : a cross 2, cross 3, > anything else? How many spokes, what ERD Rim, and what diameter hub?
36, thinking of cxp-32 and an ultegra 6600 hub
3-cross is normal for that spoke count. Don't build 4-cross with 36 spokes (as recommended by the legendary Eugene Sloane) - it can be done, but the rim/spoke angle is painful.
The rim/spoke angle is also "painful" on smaller diameter 3-cross wheels, even with small flange hubs.
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Likewise, save 2-cross for large flange hubs and/or spoke counts of 28 and below.
Or small diameter wheels.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia POST FREE OR DIE!
On Jan 4, 6:41 am, Zog The Undeniable <[email hidden]> wrote: > Tom Sherman wrote: >> Squat'n Dive wrote: >>> what is more bombproof for the rear wheel : a cross 2, cross 3, >>> anything else? >> A solid disc machined from an aluminium alloy billet. Is that what is typically seen on TT bikes? i assume the cost is the major drawback? what are the others?
The discs you see in TTs are generally carbon fibre. They're still not *that* light, but there are aerodynamic advantages, and when you can "buy" 40 seconds' advantage for $1000, what's the point of training? ;-)
One oddity was the Tioga Tension-Disk that John Tomac used to use for MTB, although there was a road version too. That seemed to work as a solid disc but didn't; it was similar to a spoked wheel in principle, with the hub being laced to the rim using a long thread of kevlar. This were embedded in a thin non-structural disc for protection, aerodynamics, looks, whatever. Apparently they weren't hugely reliable, but they occasionally show up on *bay, so at least some have survived.
Sugino T-Disc were quite reliable, replacing 32 stainless spokes with 256 Kevlar spokes in a clear plastic matrix. It elegantly solved the typical disc problem, lack of tension, in a format lighter even than 32 SS spokes.
I knew someone who simply covered his spokes with clear packing tape to make wheel discs.
-- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia POST FREE OR DIE!
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 15:19:52 -0800 (PST), "Squat'n Dive"
may have said:
what is more bombproof for the rear wheel : a cross 2, cross 3, anything else?
Bomproofing is more of a matter of component selection and spoke count than lacing pattern, as long as you avoid radial or 1X on the drive side. Hubs with crappy thin soft CNC flanges will fail before hubs with decent forged flanges. Choose your parts with care; they must get you home.
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