Kuota Khan, Colnago C50 & CT2



Originally posted by KingB
Being from Canada, I may be a bit biased, however these guys make for some pretty great bikes (The Platinum is kinda my dream bike).

http://www.argon18bike.com
DeRosas might make me salivate, and Klein spins my beanie more than well enough, but while we're on the subject of Canadian frames and Italian stuff, I got to admit I've got a secret crush on Marioni frames as well.

:)
 
Originally posted by lokstah
DeRosas might make me salivate, and Klein spins my beanie more than well enough, but while we're on the subject of Canadian frames and Italian stuff, I got to admit I've got a secret crush on Marioni frames as well.

:)

you guys are pushing me to bankruptcy :)
 
Someone mentioned Calfee and I could not let it go since I ride one. Stiff, comfortable, lively, light and understated. Not to mention customizable. ANd... Greg Lemond won a Tour de France on one back when he was with Team Z.

I know it's made in the USA, but maybe Craig Calfee has some Italian Roots.
 
Hey, that's another great call. Can't be Calfee for handcrafted American carbon frames. Beeeeeeautiful!
 
Has anyone ridden the Scott CR1? pro or team issue.

I understand that it's got the dampening quality of the trek OCLV but without the dead ride. It's also just as lively as the Giant TCR at the same time being lighter than both of these bikes.

I talked to a Scott dealer and understand that they're about to offer an Ultegra 10 speed model next January for around $3300, complete bike.
 
Rudy said:
Has anyone ridden the Scott CR1? pro or team issue.

I understand that it's got the dampening quality of the trek OCLV but without the dead ride. It's also just as lively as the Giant TCR at the same time being lighter than both of these bikes.

I talked to a Scott dealer and understand that they're about to offer an Ultegra 10 speed model next January for around $3300, complete bike.

Well comparing it to it´s predessessor (for me) a Principia REX pro it´s very stiff, not as good in high speed pedalling turns but still stable, without the dead feel of the Principia. I would´nt call it lively it´s too stiff to be lively(which in my opinion is a good thing) the aero fork makes the front end very stable and the wishbone back makes it very stiff almost too the point that the word shockabsorbing is not one that comes to mind, although compared to my ultra stiff principia (with lower stw than the CR-1) it absolutely shockabsorbs a lot more. Since I cut about 1600 grams off in weight compared to the old bike it feels very light and I had to get used too the feeling of almost riding on air.
 
mrowkoob said:
Well comparing it to it´s predessessor (for me) a Principia REX pro it´s very stiff, not as good in high speed pedalling turns but still stable, without the dead feel of the Principia. I would´nt call it lively it´s too stiff to be lively(which in my opinion is a good thing) the aero fork makes the front end very stable and the wishbone back makes it very stiff almost too the point that the word shockabsorbing is not one that comes to mind, although compared to my ultra stiff principia (with lower stw than the CR-1) it absolutely shockabsorbs a lot more. Since I cut about 1600 grams off in weight compared to the old bike it feels very light and I had to get used too the feeling of almost riding on air.

Thanks MrowKoob.... did you ever get a chance to take it on a long ride? was it too stiff to be tolerable?
 
A few days ago I got it a bit wrong and had a slow speed crash into a soft hedge. The result? A few scratches on me from the brambles, both wheels undamaged, and my lightly used 9 month old Colnago C50 frame snapped in two places like a few, cheap matches. I am astonished that such a light impact could cause such devastating damage. Like the frame, my confidence in Colnago is shattered. Had the frame been steel I am in no doubt that I would have been able to continue cycling without a second thought. In case you’re wondering I’m only 160 pounds. :mad:
 
strawpanda said:
A few days ago I got it a bit wrong and had a slow speed crash into a soft hedge. The result? A few scratches on me from the brambles, both wheels undamaged, and my lightly used 9 month old Colnago C50 frame snapped in two places like a few, cheap matches. I am astonished that such a light impact could cause such devastating damage. Like the frame, my confidence in Colnago is shattered. Had the frame been steel I am in no doubt that I would have been able to continue cycling without a second thought. In case you’re wondering I’m only 160 pounds. :mad:
Ouch! I'm sorry that happened to you...at least you're OK.

I ended up purchasing a Scott CR1 Pro and upgraded most of its components. I've only had it for a a week plus and put approx. 150 miles on it. I really like this bike!! It's a very sweet ride. Much cheaper than the Colnago C
 
Colnago are being very professional and businesslike. I will be meeting with the UK distributors next week to work out a solution to this situation and I am confident that we will be able to agree something that we can all live with.
 
Rudy said:
I'm sitting here...bored to death and dreaming of my next bike...ooh yes I'm dreaming alright. :)

So work with me fellas...go along here...which would you rather have. I wanted a pured road bike...stiff enough with a kick when out of the saddle sprinting but yet comfy enough for 1/2 or full century rides. But...without the dead feel of a carbon frame, like that of a Trek 5200. A monocoque frame perhaps? or those lugged frames?

Share with me any knowledge and thoughts about any of these bikes, the Khan, C50 and the CT2.

The Khan is just simply beautiful with its naked carbon finished. The C50 and CT2 with that awesome paint job...

So? which? which you would rather have? have you test ride any of these? can you compare em?

THX
here is my Colnago C35 FERRARI ENGINEERED BIKE (IM VERY HAPPY WITH IT)...rare bike..one of 3 known in entire philippines...never heard of such a thing as a shattered Colnago...then again there is a shattered one in Ebay today August 8,2005.... Carbonnissmo model...being sold for $300 for shattered frame (left chain stay is missing)? you should call colnago and send the Carbon back...then ask for replacement...otherwise...raise hell and post all negative feedbacks on the web.
 
i stand corrected....when the Colnago Carbons C35,C40,C50,E1, Carbonismo, President, LdV etcetera.... snap in two places on a slow bike ride...you gotta complain...about this POSSIBLE factory defect....the shattered Carbonnissmo shown in Ebay was hit by a car...and the honest owner didnt holler at Maestro Ernesto Colnago for a defective bike...but then again...SEVEN CYCLES TITANIUM gives us guys here in the Philippines a nice warranty...break the bike and SEVEN replaces them outright...that is why Seven is such a respected bike in Manila Philippines with over 200 units sold...
so if my C35 snaps in two on a slow ride...i will vist my authorized dealer...if no actions taken...then i will write Maestro Colnago.... :)