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  1. Which is a pretty near the knuckle way of introducing a new pair of
    bicycles into the Bramah garage; current Raleighs are both now too small
    for growing children. We all went down to the new Manchester branch of
    Edinburgh Co-Op this afternoon and came away having ordered a pair of
    Specialized Hotrocks, a 20" boys bike:

    http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=22126

    and a 24" girls bike:

    http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=22149

    which heaven help me has a triple, I can see endless hours of fun
    explaining trimming to my 8-yo, ho ho...

    We actually went down there to see their own-brand Cairn and Skye bikes
    which are both much cheaper but are completely unsuitable; in the 20"
    case because they have none to sell until June and in the 24" case
    because someone saw fit to spec it with 170mm cranks... which meant my
    darling daughter having a face full of knee twiceper pedal revolution.
    It also had a huge great reach for her, plenty of growing room
    admittedly but after ten minutes she wanted off it and that was just sat
    in the shop! I mean, really - how can a bike have 20" wheels and a seat
    that at it's lowest is only just above a snake's belly yet use cranks
    that are longer than the ones I use on my fixed? The sales lad was
    reasonably aware though and agreed that their bike was trying to cover
    too big a target market.

    I wanted to look at Isla Bikes, however Mrs B was agin travelling to
    Wolverhampton (fair enough) and with the 20% off coupon for the new Manc
    shop the two Speshes have not been much more expensive. BUT we have
    managed to end up with a pair of front suspended kids bikes, I'm not
    really happy about it... here's hoping it works out.

    EBC had a load of good stuff in; a really nice single speed MTB, a
    Cervelo R3 frame, a Specialised S-Works Roubaix with all the right bits
    on, some very good looking "town" bikes, a lot of great looking adult
    own-brand bikes, nice clothes and a huge store. The boys and girls
    staffing the place were cheerful, helpful and friendly. I think I'll use
    them again.

    The kids are in bed happy. Obviously they would have liked to have
    brought new bikes home today but hey, you don't want those ones that all
    the other boys and girls try out - you want a brand-new-made-for-you one
    etc. and they seem placated.

    Roll on next week and we can get 4yo boy into using his gears!

    I don't know what to do with the old bikes, maybe a punt on ebay
    otherwise I'll have to see if the bike exchange project is still going,
    ISTR they used to be glad of decent stock.

    bfn,

    Tony B

  2. Tony B said:

    Mrs B was agin travelling to Wolverhampton

    I wish her a speedy recovery.

  3. Quoted message said:

    BUT we have
    managed to end up with a pair of front suspended kids bikes, I'm not
    really happy about it... here's hoping it works out.

    Their range of 24"-ish wheeled kids bikes is rather limited. Everything
    has suspension and is all rather heavy. The range desperately needs a
    normal, unsuspended bike. Allegedly they don't sell, but I've had three
    people looking for a 'normal' bike so far.

    Quoted message said:

    EBC had a load of good stuff in [...] a Specialised S-Works Roubaix

    You have to take a test ride on that one - it's amazing...

    Quoted message said:

    The boys and girls staffing the place were cheerful, helpful and
    friendly. I think I'll use them again.

    Um, did I mention I work there (there today but wasn't the one serving you
    thobut)? Glad you liked the place.

  4. Mark Thompson said:

    The range desperately needs a normal, unsuspended bike. Allegedly they don't sell, but I've had three
    people looking for a 'normal' bike so far.

    The Cairn/Skye bikes are almost perfect, build quality looks fine and
    certainly they are priced to sell but the huge cranks on the 24" was
    just too much - options for shorter would be nice. Also, an option to
    loose the "suspension" fork would be good; it would be interesting to
    see how many people buying in a proper bike shop would opt for the sus
    fork. Not many, I reckon - certainly all the cycling parents I know hate
    kids bikes being equipped with suspension shaped components....

    Quoted message said:

    You have to take a test ride on that one - it's amazing...

    as well it should be for four grand :-)

    Glad you liked the place.

    I did! Look fwd to collecting later in the week.

    bfn,

    Tony B

  5. I got my son a giant mtx250 which is suspension free. Goes like a
    rocket with slicks as well.

    My daughter manages to navigate an XS Giant Boulder ladies version.
    Navigate in the sense that she seems to sit in it and drive it like a
    barge rather than ride it.

    The main gripes with the 24" wheeled bike were a) the seatpost had a
    minimal amount of travel. Easily sorted by buying a long one. and b)
    the V-brakes have a very deep thingy for holding the noodle so are a
    pig to disengage. They need to have almost twice the nipple length of
    free cable, which is more than is available on a properly adjusted
    pair of brakes. I might swap them purely for ease of maintenance.

    The wee one is just about outgrowing his Raleigh Max 16". He'll either
    have his sisters old bike (Lion 20" retrofitted with decent brakes and
    levers) or I will splash the cash and get a Beinn 20" from Isla. It is
    only a few quid more than the comparable offerings from elsewhere and
    so much better.

    He is definitely ready for gears and a bike he can ride offroad or on
    more than gentle slopes.

    ...d

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,
    David Martin
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    the V-brakes have a very deep thingy for holding the noodle so are a
    pig to disengage. They need to have almost twice the nipple length of
    free cable, which is more than is available on a properly adjusted
    pair of brakes.


    Just set the brake up with the barrel adjuster on the lever wound out a
    bit, then you can wind it in to get the extra slack.

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