It never ends

in message <[email hidden]>, Curtis L.

Russell (') said:

jerry in vermont said:

I have said for years that we ought to ban those stupid little gel
packs. I cant believe a "green" sport like cycling keeps pushing those
little trash makers. No one wants to stuff that sticky little mess
back in their pocket.

What's green about the sport? The fact we don't draw crowds in the
U.S., so we aren't guilty of a bunch of motorists drivingto the event?
Most spectators and almost all competitors (always a few exceptions)
in a bike race drive there. The officials drive there. The motors
spend the day driving in circles, unless they get lost on the back
side of the crit (always a possibility).

Uh-huh. The big event which I'm responsible for each year has six
mountain bike stages and five road stages. To get the mountain bikes and
their riders to the start of the next mountain bike stage before the
team's road bikes gets there pretty much requires that the mountain bike
goes on a motor vehicle. This year's event most teams had two support
cars and one team had eight support cars. I confess I feel a little
guilty about how un-green this is!

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in message <[email hidden]>, Frank Drackman

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<[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'm currently [censored] over the fact that I've been wanting to promote a
race in my hometown, but have been waiting to "do it right". Then,
along came a local racing team that somehow secured permission to do
the same thing, but on a much lower scale, and totally focused on
their
selfish fattie masters team focus (gotta win the "cup", right?). They
gave the race ZERO in terms of PR and promotion, so the residents of
the town did not know to expect an "event" blocking their central
shopping district on a Suaturday afternoon. The residents and shop
owners were all LIVID, and are giving the township manager and mayor a
hell of a time over it. In addition, letters were written to the local
paper about racers urinating behind dry cleaner's businesses, nudity,
etc. Instead of involving the residents in some way, the race simply
borrowed their streets.

Now MY race has literally no chance of being approved. Thanks guys.

What things were you waiting for before you could "do it right"?

What processes would you have put in place that would have stopped the
urination and nudity?

Well, for example, renting a public hall with lavatories as a changing
room?

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"Frank Drackman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

Has any promoter/licensing authority ever banned riders for things like
littering, nudity, urination, blocking roads?

The promoters have to look in the mirror here. How many port o johns did
you provide and where did you put them? Are there places to park and
garbage cans?

Ride on the shoulder and you're blocking the road to some people - nothing
you can do about that.

Riders have to change... blame bicycling magazine for that b/c a couple of
years ago in their 'learn to race' issue they specifically told people not
to change in the front seat of their car!

The point is, the racers are the same from race to race. The promoter is
the difference between a race that gets shut down and one that does not.
They are what changes a group of racers into a plague by poor planning.

TM said:

The promoters have to look in the mirror here. How many port o johns did
you provide and where did you put them? Are there places to park and
garbage cans?

Sometimes, maybe. But you can have a line of Portajohns from here to
eternity and some racers will warm up to the last minute and not have
time to stand one deep in the Portajohn line.

Let me toss in another culprit - teams. That's where the discipline
should start if you don't want it to be via an official. Its their
sponsor on the jersey. We had a thread about people calling the
sponsors a while ago about the jerks, but when a team lets a jerk pee
in public and then pull on their sponsor's jersey, they get what they
deserve - possibly one less sponsor.

Was talking with someone that also goes back to the ABLA days, from a
team from near Monterey. His spin on KG's fixation is that the real
detriment of all the Fattie Masters is that it meant the end of the
hard nosed 50 yo running the teams, who stayed on top of the entire
process at each event, instead of checking on things between warming
up and trying to race in three different races.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Or just tuck it back under the hem of your shorts. You're gonna
wash your shorts after the race, right?

True, but I don't want to feel the sticky mess next to my skin. That is
why it goes back in the jersey pocket.
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Alex

Alex Rodriguez said:

True, but I don't want to feel the sticky mess next to my skin. That is
why it goes back in the jersey pocket.

Hope you're talking about gel packets and not used condoms.

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Alex Rodriguez said:

True, but I don't want to feel the sticky mess next to my skin. That is
why it goes back in the jersey pocket.

Hope you're talking about gel packets and not used condoms.

I don't think I have the skills necessary to put a condom to use while
I am on a bike.
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Alex

Alex Rodriguez said:

I don't think I have the skills necessary to put a condom to use while
I am on a bike.

A bit like taking a leg warmer off perhaps.