Input for redesigned Coker

new_coker said:

I know the tabs could be added very easy and cheaply but on the
manufactoring side there is something else that I have to deal,
Lawyers!!... Oh, trust me a guy going through a window on a geared 36
inch wheeled unicycle would make the news.

If you put them on, with a little warning sticker by them, you could
probably get away with it. Also maybe you could hook up with UDC and
have them build the geared, or splined ones to order. That way they
could just throw them together using spare bits, if anyone is willing
to pay the price.

And just so you know I found that story hilarious.

I just thought of something for the cranks too. these ones only cost
$30 and they seem really solid, and they wouldn't have the nut/bolt
problem.[image: http://www.danscomp.com/products/CRANKS/451052.jpg]

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I think that current square-taper technology, a good set of cranks on a
UDC hub or similar (but UDC does make strong hubs, might be worth
looking into if you're allowed or whatever), would be plenty strong
enough for at least 80% of the riders.

And considering the cost of a UDC super-wide coker hub is 30$, compared
with the 100+ for a splined version off the shelf, I think the choice
is clear there.

Frankly, what I'm interested in is a big 43-45" wheel with a pneumatic
tire, if you can make it, and some good solid components backing it.
It'd be great to have a well-designed, unicyclist tested and inspired
frame and seat choice. I hope that whatever you end up building gets
some use from some of the more experienced people on this forum, so as
to make the final product the best it can be. I'll be waiting to see
what comes of all this, and I'm very excited!

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I think that current square-taper technology, a good set of cranks on a
UDC hub or similar (but UDC does make strong hubs, might be worth
looking into if you're allowed or whatever), would be plenty strong
enough for at least 80% of the riders.

And considering the cost of a UDC super-wide coker hub is 30$, compared
with the 100+ for a splined version off the shelf, I think the choice
is clear there.

Frankly, what I'm interested in is a big 43-45" wheel with a pneumatic
tire, if you can make it, and some good solid components backing it.
It'd be great to have a well-designed, unicyclist tested and inspired
frame and seat choice. I hope that whatever you end up building gets
some use from some of the more experienced people on this forum, so as
to make the final product the best it can be. I'll be waiting to see
what comes of all this, and I'm very excited!

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I havn't read completely through this thread, so I dont know if this has
already been mentioned, but what I have always thought my Coker needed
was a disk brake. One of the reasons for building up a stronger wheel
is that the stock Coker wheel has too much lateral run out for using
rim-caliper brakes. If the brake was located mounted to the hub, more
attention could be focused on making the rim lighter than stronger. and
of course there is always the cool factor to consider.

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I havn't read completely through this thread, so I dont know if this has
already been mentioned, but what I have always thought my Coker needed
was a disk brake. One of the reasons for building up a stronger wheel
is that the stock Coker wheel has too much lateral run out for using
rim-caliper brakes. If the brake was located mounted to the hub, more
attention could be focused on making the rim lighter than stronger. and
of course there is always the cool factor to consider.

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A disc brake, although it is cool, is a very binary braking system, it
has very little modulation. Its on hard, or its off. Very good hold,
and very rapid on-to-off-to-on response which is good for bikes, bike
trials and MTBing, but bad for unicycles IMHO.

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A disc brake, although it is cool, is a very binary braking system, it
has very little modulation. Its on hard, or its off. Very good hold,
and very rapid on-to-off-to-on response which is good for bikes, bike
trials and MTBing, but bad for unicycles IMHO.

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al_lieffring said:

I havn't read completely through this thread, so I dont know if this has
already been mentioned, but what I have always thought my Coker needed
was a disk brake.

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al_lieffring said:

I havn't read completely through this thread, so I dont know if this has
already been mentioned, but what I have always thought my Coker needed
was a disk brake.

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money, money, money, money, money, money, money....."

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johnfoss said:

Roger knows his stuff. He's been selling (and making) unicycles for
many years. He made my carbon fiber MUni. But I don't know that I agree
with his 50%. Nobody is a potential customer if they can't fit the
cycle, are they? Or maybe that's not fair, maybe that's tall-person
attitude. But yes, the chosen size of a larger wheel must be a balance
between how many people can fit it, while not being too close to the
existing 36" size. To go only to 40", for example, is not much of a
difference and would not attract current owners to upgrade. I think 42"
is a good target, and am willing to help with ideas to keep the seat
down low if you're interested.

You are missing the point... I can ride a 48" wheel with 150mm cranks.
But not if you put a standard design frame on it. With a little
creative design you can extend your market beyond where it could be.

Roger

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johnfoss said:

Roger knows his stuff. He's been selling (and making) unicycles for
many years. He made my carbon fiber MUni. But I don't know that I agree
with his 50%. Nobody is a potential customer if they can't fit the
cycle, are they? Or maybe that's not fair, maybe that's tall-person
attitude. But yes, the chosen size of a larger wheel must be a balance
between how many people can fit it, while not being too close to the
existing 36" size. To go only to 40", for example, is not much of a
difference and would not attract current owners to upgrade. I think 42"
is a good target, and am willing to help with ideas to keep the seat
down low if you're interested.

You are missing the point... I can ride a 48" wheel with 150mm cranks.
But not if you put a standard design frame on it. With a little
creative design you can extend your market beyond where it could be.

Roger

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i actually have a radial 360, so i'm basing this on that frame, but for
a 42" or 44" wheel there would really be no need to design a completely
new frame. we're talking about an additional *3 to 4 inches* of
radius!! i think most people have at least that much extra seat post
they can cut off. the other 3-4 inches of course would be below the hub
making you ride that much higher. the legs of the frame would need to
be a little longer, that's all. it would still be totally rideable.

edit: forgot to mention, a 25.4 or 27.2 mm seat post would be a nice
improvement.

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I was looking at the equipment page or the Laos tour and I think that if
you added another 3-4 inchs to the frame it just wouldn't work, there
would only be about two or three people that would fit them.

I think the biggest inovation in cokering would be an adjustble crank,
then people wouldnt need to take cranks on and off all the time which
would help alot with other problems I have been reading about. Plus
there are some designs I have seen on this site that would be pretty
cheap to produce and almost everyone riding for distances would be
interested which would mean that the coker company wouldn't have any
problem selling them.

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I was looking at the equipment page or the Laos tour and I think that if
you added another 3-4 inchs to the frame it just wouldn't work, there
would only be about two or three people that would fit them.

I think the biggest inovation in cokering would be an adjustble crank,
then people wouldnt need to take cranks on and off all the time which
would help alot with other problems I have been reading about. Plus
there are some designs I have seen on this site that would be pretty
cheap to produce and almost everyone riding for distances would be
interested which would mean that the coker company wouldn't have any
problem selling them.

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I second the adjustable crank idea. There are some out there but they
are a bit pricy.

Sam
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I second the adjustable crank idea. There are some out there but they
are a bit pricy.

Sam
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i third the adjustible crank idea.

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i third the adjustible crank idea.

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Has there been enough requests thrown in that its time for a poll?
Who's the best pollster to build one?

Each feature should have a score rather than just making a ranking.
For instance, the desire to have a wider rim might score twice as many
points as the next highest score.

My choice while we are all wishing - Wider Rim and sweat proof the
rest.

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Has there been enough requests thrown in that its time for a poll?
Who's the best pollster to build one?

Each feature should have a score rather than just making a ranking.
For instance, the desire to have a wider rim might score twice as many
points as the next highest score.

My choice while we are all wishing - Wider Rim and sweat proof the
rest.

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