I celebrated

BenS said:

Don't quote the law if you're going to get it wrong.
Undertaking is not an offence. Sections of the Highway
Code refer to Road Traffic Law will say "you must (not)".

Don't quote my posts if you're going to get it wrong: I did
not say it was an offence, I said it was a violation of the
Highway Code. I'm aware of the difference, thank you.

d.

Mark Thompson said:

Yebbut what about on the motorway when you're crawling
along at walking

pace an

Quoted message said:

your lanes going faster than the lane to the right. Isn't
a cyclist

filtering

Quoted message said:

through traffic a bit like that?

No, because there you have separate lanes - I believe this
matter is covered separately in the Highway Code.

d.

James Annan said:

Do you have any evidence that it is dangerous?

Yes, I've seen people knocked off or having near misses
through cycling up the inside. YMMV.

Quoted message said:

In the case where a cycle lane is painted in the road, it
specifically allows it. Does the presence or absence of
the paint make a material difference to the safety?

Yes, of course it does. Are you being facetious? A marked
cycle lane is a separate lane and cars are not permitted to
cross the line.

Quoted message said:

The previous poster said "stationary traffic"

Temporarily stationary, as opposed to parked - and liable to
move again as soon as the car in front moves.

Quoted message said:

I presume you would say that if there is a stationary
(say, broken down, or even obviously intending to turn
right but failing to signalling) vehicle in the middle of
the road then all vehicles have to cross over to the RH
lane to get past legally.

Now that is *definitely* facetious.

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Undertaking queues is an entirely reasonable and sensible
procedure (circumstances permitting) so long as it is done
with appropriate care.

Yeahyeahyeah... and driving at 110mph is perfectly safe if
you're a sensible driver...

d.

david kenning said:

BenS said:

Don't quote the law if you're going to get it wrong.
Undertaking is not an offence. Sections of the Highway
Code refer to Road Traffic Law will say "you must (not)".

Don't quote my posts if you're going to get it wrong: I did
not say it was an offence, I said it was a violation of the
Highway Code. I'm aware of the difference, thank you.

There is no such thing as a violation of the Highway Code.
The Highway Code is not law, it's a booklet of advice that
makes reference to some Road Traffic law.
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BenS said:

There is no such thing as a violation of the Highway Code.
The Highway Code is not law, it's a booklet of advice that
makes reference to some Road Traffic law.

The verb "to violate" has a legal sense but it applies
equally to rules, commandments, faiths, abstract and moral
qualities, promises, people, property, chastity, privacy...
and so on. Perhaps my meaning might have been clearer if I
had used different wording but since you're just splitting
hairs rather than providing a meaningful counter-argument,
it doesn't really matter.

d.

david kenning said:

A marked cycle lane is a separate lane and cars are not
permitted to cross the line.

That rather depends on whether it is a mandatory or an
advisory cycle lane, and also whether it has defined hours
of operation.

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Danny Colyer said:

That rather depends on whether it is a mandatory or an
advisory cycle lane, and also whether it has defined hours
of operation.

Surely outside of defined hours it's to be treated as Not A
Cycle Lane, no?

As for "advisory" cycle lanes, they're just not worth the
paint - there's no practical difference between an advisory
cycle lane and no cycle lane at all.

Anyway, I take your point - it is a fair one.

d.

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 19:24:14 +0000 (UTC), "david kenning"
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Quoted message said:

As for "advisory" cycle lanes, they're just not worth the
paint - there's no practical difference between an advisory
cycle lane and no cycle lane at all.

How can you say that? They remind those pesky cyclists to
cower in the gutter where they belong, rather then delaying
proper traffic in tis headlong rush to the next traffic jam.

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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:

Me:

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OTOH, if my particular position at the Nut Face is
rendered obsolete by the actions of the Evil Squirrels
who run the Nut Mines on Monday, perhaps not. Boycott the
Thomson Group, everybody.

Bah!

B*gger! I do hope the Nut Mine doesn't get rid of you. If
they do, the PSF will have revenge on the Evil Squirrels
when they least expect it...

Please inform the PSF that the Evil Squirrels require a
Right Good Slabbing. Though at least I shall remain Mining
Nuts until the end of June, unlike some of my fellow Nut
Miners, who have already cleared their desks and tripped
away into the sunset.

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On 23 Mar 2004 16:44:09 GMT, [email hidden]
(dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) wrote in message
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

I shall be dancing nekkid about the willow trees at the end
of the garden, chanting strange chants and mumuring even
stranger incantations. They are heading for worse than a
slabbing.

I'm not sure whether I should ask for tickets or run
for cover ;-)

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Just zis Guy said:

On 23 Mar 2004 16:44:09 GMT, [email hidden]
(dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers) wrote in message <20040323114409.01896.00000234@mb-
m03.aol.com>:

Quoted message said:

I shall be dancing nekkid about the willow trees at the
end of the garden, chanting strange chants and mumuring
even stranger incantations. They are heading for worse
than a slabbing.

I'm not sure whether I should ask for tickets or run for
cover ;-)

Ever the gentleman Guy, running to get a cover for the
nekkid lady ;-)

Tony

On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 10:01:29 -0000, "Tony Raven"
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
<[email hidden]>:

Quoted message said:

Ever the gentleman Guy, running to get a cover for the
nekkid lady ;-)

Ackserly I was aiming to save any young men of tender years
from the inflaming sight of the world-renowned Heaving
Maternal Bazoomas.

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Just zis Guy said:

Ackserly I was aiming to save any young men of tender
years from the inflaming sight of the world-renowned
Heaving Maternal Bazoomas.

Yeah, yeah

Tony ;-)