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Why are all these collarbones breaking? This is suggesting osteoporosis
in the numbers I think we're seeing.

Can anyone remember collarbones being broken so often in the past?

Tom Kunich said:

Why are all these collarbones breaking? This is suggesting osteoporosis
in the numbers I think we're seeing.

No. It's suggesting that people are hitting asphalt shoulder first at
20-30 mph.

-B

billyroll said:

Tom Kunich said:

Why are all these collarbones breaking? This is suggesting osteoporosis
in the numbers I think we're seeing.

No. It's suggesting that people are hitting asphalt shoulder first at
20-30 mph.

-B

I broke my collarbone this year also. Very weird. At least you don't
need a collarbone to pedal a bike.

Tom Kunich said:

Why are all these collarbones breaking? This is suggesting osteoporosis
in the numbers I think we're seeing.

Can anyone remember collarbones being broken so often in the past?

What we need are collarbone helmets.

Tom Kunich said:

Why are all these collarbones breaking? This is suggesting osteoporosis
in the numbers I think we're seeing.

Can anyone remember collarbones being broken so often in the past?

Last time I broke my collarbone was September 2001. I haven't broken it
before or since.

Just a data point.

Tom Kunich said:

Why are all these collarbones breaking? This is suggesting osteoporosis
in the numbers I think we're seeing.

Can anyone remember collarbones being broken so often in the past?

Oh and Cadel Evans broke his collarbone 3 times in 1 year not so long
ago. I think he's broken his 5 times.

Just another data point.

You might also want to look under medical records for Hamilton, T.
Possibly also Zulle, A.

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Tom Kunich said:

Why are all these collarbones breaking? This is suggesting osteoporosis
in the numbers I think we're seeing.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Can anyone remember collarbones being broken so often in the past?

Stu Fleming said:

Last time I broke my collarbone was September 2001. I haven't broken it
before or since.

Hope you touched wood after writing the above.

Donald (May 2003 - touching wood frantically)

Tim Lines said:

Tom Kunich said:

Why are all these collarbones breaking? This is suggesting osteoporosis
in the numbers I think we're seeing.

Can anyone remember collarbones being broken so often in the past?

What we need are collarbone helmets.

It's because of the helmets. Due to the modified risk assessment that
helmets provide, more riders are diving head first at the pavement when
they crash. An arm goes up to protect the face and a broken collarbone
results.

I think this calls for a ban on helmets.

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Tom Kunich said:

Why are all these collarbones breaking? This is suggesting osteoporosis
in the numbers I think we're seeing.

No. It's suggesting that people are hitting asphalt shoulder first at
20-30 mph.

Do you really think that riders are faster now then they were when Anquitil
was winning?

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Quoted message said:

Tom Kunich said:

Why are all these collarbones breaking? This is suggesting osteoporosis
in the numbers I think we're seeing.

Can anyone remember collarbones being broken so often in the past?

Oh and Cadel Evans broke his collarbone 3 times in 1 year not so long ago.
I think he's broken his 5 times.

Just another data point.

You might also want to look under medical records for Hamilton, T.
Possibly also Zulle, A.

Well, I'm thinking that what we're seeing is that today's racers are
spending so much time on the bike that they're not putting sufficient loads
on the rest of their skeltons to maintain density. Moreover the intensity of
the racing has to burn up lots of calcium.

Is there a doctor in the house?

I remember Alex Zulle being a collarbone specialist

On Thu, 11 May 2006 23:36:51 +0200, Kyle Legate <[email hidden]>

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I think this calls for a ban on helmets.

I think bans on helmets calls too much attention to helmets, which
just reminds bike racers that they are wearing them and then they do
stupid stuff.

I think this calls for a ban on bans on helmets.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Maybe the disproportionate physique riders are developing the last few
years has something to do with it?

Riders look scaringly thin and underdeveloped.

Tom Kunich said:

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Tom Kunich said:

Why are all these collarbones breaking? This is suggesting osteoporosis
in the numbers I think we're seeing.

No. It's suggesting that people are hitting asphalt shoulder first at
20-30 mph.

Do you really think that riders are faster now then they were when Anquitil
was winning?

I'm going to make a couple educated guesses here: (Please don't let the
"educated" part get in your way - it just means I thought things
through rationally. Confusing? Yes, but many people have built entire
lives on rational thought. Try it sometime. Works well.)

1. Yes. More knowledge on how to fine tune the human body (chemically
or naturally) will lead to faster riders. Look at racing in the 60s. At
least some riders drank alcohol during races (precursors to the
LiveDrunk lifestyle, no doubt), and were limited to 4 bottles of water
during a race. We now know that hydration during excersize is good for
you and enhances atheltic performance. Merely one reason of many that
we have faster riders today. If you would like numerical proof, please
look at average speed of Tour winners from Anquetil's day versus today.

http://www.torelli.com/raceinfo/tdf/tdfstats.html

2. I'm sure if we had access to the cyclingnews.com archives from
Anquetil's day, we'd see that riders did indeed get injured. We just
didn't have Jeff to report on it daily.

-B

Well, if you're saying that riders are marginally faster now then they
were in the 60's I'd have to agree. But it is marginal and we're
talking about a lot of broken bones seemingly. Of course this might be
because of the excellent coverage we now enjoy from the likes of
cyclingnews.com. Perhaps there was always this number of broken bones
but we just never heard about them because most of these guys are
lesser riders and weren't covered in the press which at best didn't
have much publishing space.

SO maybe all these damned broken bones are the fault of Jeff!

Tom Kunich said:

SO maybe all these damned broken bones are the fault of Jeff!

I blame it (broken wrist) on the car that pulled out in front of us on
a descent. 1/2 week to go until I get rid of this damned cast.

Jeff

billyroll said:

2. I'm sure if we had access to the cyclingnews.com archives from
Anquetil's day, we'd see that riders did indeed get injured. We just
didn't have Jeff to report on it daily.

Add to that there were fewer pro riders in the 60s.

Jenko

Jenko said:

billyroll said:

2. I'm sure if we had access to the cyclingnews.com archives from
Anquetil's day, we'd see that riders did indeed get injured. We just
didn't have Jeff to report on it daily.

Add to that there were fewer pro riders in the 60s.

And less traffic.

--
E. Dronkert

Jeff Jones said:

I blame it (broken wrist) on the car that pulled out in front of us on
a descent. 1/2 week to go until I get rid of this damned cast.

Sorry to hear that. Hope you recover quickly and completely.

How are you typing?