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"Ed-D" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:5g0Ya.50969$cF.18343@rwcrnsc53...
> >
> > "Ed-D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > How many French North Africans are there in the various houses of
> > parliament?
> > > How about in the courts? How about the supreme court?
> >
> > although charges of racism in france should not be dismissed, mass immigration of n.africans
> > started ~40 years ago. how many vietnamese migrants to the us are in the positions you are
> > inquiring about? i.e.
you
> > should not be comparing apples and oranges.
> >
> > next, how do you figure the average life expectancy of n.african youth
in
> > france compares to that of african american males?
> >
> > http://www.youthoutlook.org/stories/1998/11/11/drylongso.no.o.html
> >
> > are you done now?
> >
>
> done with what? done trying to argue with a manipulative ***** like
yourself?
> You should be so lucky. As disgusted as I am with your hypocrisy, lies,
and
> all-around ********, I'm not going to sit by idly while this nonsense goes unexposed.
nice going. something rattled your cage?
> First of all the statistics on that page are neither here nor there (and
you
> accuse me of comparing apples to oranges? Hypocrite?). You're going to
have
> to do a little better than pointing me to the web site of some film
(which, if
> I'm not mistaken, was made in Hollywood of all places). Assuming the statistics on that web site
> are even accurate (highly unlikely, but I digress), they say nothing about treatment of minorities
> in France or the U.S., nothing about civil and economic rights, and, most glaringly,
NOTHING
> about life expectancy of "North African youth". And even if it did, how
is
> that relevant? How are you going to use that as a statistic to support
your
> claim of differing degrees of racism in the U.S. and France? Has it
occurred
> to you that maybe, just maybe, the point of that movie is to make a
statement
> about black males vis-a-vis black females and not blacks vis-a-vis whites
or,
> even more preposterously, blacks in the U.S. compared to Africans in
France?
> If you ask me, that blatant lack of understanding belies an ignorant, patronizing attitude that is
> essentially no better (and far more dishonest
and
> manipulative) than overt racism.
if anyhting you certainly failed reading comprehension. the points of my post were the following:
1) by asking how many north africans attained the 'most' prestigious positions in france, you
compare the status of a population that started immigrating to france 40 years ago to african
americans who have been in the us for over ~150-200 years. they are simply not comparable. this
is why i suggested comparing vietnamese americans to north african french. is there something you
don't understand about this? or are you going to ignore this aspect of my post, once more?
2) i provided you with the first link of a google search that provided many more hits. i am soooo
sorry i did not waste more time finding you a reputable study .... considering the depth of your
argumentation thus far. it is usually no mistery for anyone who pays attention (and with a shred
of intellectual honesty) that due to infant mortality, lack of family structure, school drop out
rates, unemployment, violence, drugs, and discrimination in general, the life expectancy of
inner city black males is comparable to that found in many non-industrialized nations (and
declining btw).
http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/pncc2.html
i genuinely thought that it'd be material for you to think about before you engaged in accusing
another nationality of racism (or of being more racist than your own). if you fail to see the
connection between a) a racial group dying ~10 years earlier than the national average for well
documented reasons and b) discrimination, i suspect there is not much left to talk about.
and you'll have to document your assertions on your own. don't expect me to do it.
> Now kindly crawl back into your cave and please, if you do want to waste
your
> time replying to this, do so in your own words...don't point me to some
stupid
> web site.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-lottxmas.htm
> "Bob" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:5g0Ya.50969$cF.18343@rwcrnsc53...
> >
> > "Ed-D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > How many French North Africans are there in the various houses of
> > parliament?
> > > How about in the courts? How about the supreme court?
> >
> > although charges of racism in france should not be dismissed, mass immigration of n.africans
> > started ~40 years ago. how many vietnamese migrants to the us are in the positions you are
> > inquiring about? i.e.
you
> > should not be comparing apples and oranges.
> >
> > next, how do you figure the average life expectancy of n.african youth
in
> > france compares to that of african american males?
> >
> > http://www.youthoutlook.org/stories/1998/11/11/drylongso.no.o.html
> >
> > are you done now?
> >
>
> done with what? done trying to argue with a manipulative ***** like
yourself?
> You should be so lucky. As disgusted as I am with your hypocrisy, lies,
and
> all-around ********, I'm not going to sit by idly while this nonsense goes unexposed.
nice going. something rattled your cage?
> First of all the statistics on that page are neither here nor there (and
you
> accuse me of comparing apples to oranges? Hypocrite?). You're going to
have
> to do a little better than pointing me to the web site of some film
(which, if
> I'm not mistaken, was made in Hollywood of all places). Assuming the statistics on that web site
> are even accurate (highly unlikely, but I digress), they say nothing about treatment of minorities
> in France or the U.S., nothing about civil and economic rights, and, most glaringly,
NOTHING
> about life expectancy of "North African youth". And even if it did, how
is
> that relevant? How are you going to use that as a statistic to support
your
> claim of differing degrees of racism in the U.S. and France? Has it
occurred
> to you that maybe, just maybe, the point of that movie is to make a
statement
> about black males vis-a-vis black females and not blacks vis-a-vis whites
or,
> even more preposterously, blacks in the U.S. compared to Africans in
France?
> If you ask me, that blatant lack of understanding belies an ignorant, patronizing attitude that is
> essentially no better (and far more dishonest
and
> manipulative) than overt racism.
if anyhting you certainly failed reading comprehension. the points of my post were the following:
1) by asking how many north africans attained the 'most' prestigious positions in france, you
compare the status of a population that started immigrating to france 40 years ago to african
americans who have been in the us for over ~150-200 years. they are simply not comparable. this
is why i suggested comparing vietnamese americans to north african french. is there something you
don't understand about this? or are you going to ignore this aspect of my post, once more?
2) i provided you with the first link of a google search that provided many more hits. i am soooo
sorry i did not waste more time finding you a reputable study .... considering the depth of your
argumentation thus far. it is usually no mistery for anyone who pays attention (and with a shred
of intellectual honesty) that due to infant mortality, lack of family structure, school drop out
rates, unemployment, violence, drugs, and discrimination in general, the life expectancy of
inner city black males is comparable to that found in many non-industrialized nations (and
declining btw).
http://www.inmotionmagazine.com/pncc2.html
i genuinely thought that it'd be material for you to think about before you engaged in accusing
another nationality of racism (or of being more racist than your own). if you fail to see the
connection between a) a racial group dying ~10 years earlier than the national average for well
documented reasons and b) discrimination, i suspect there is not much left to talk about.
and you'll have to document your assertions on your own. don't expect me to do it.
> Now kindly crawl back into your cave and please, if you do want to waste
your
> time replying to this, do so in your own words...don't point me to some
stupid
> web site.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-lottxmas.htm
