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I visited my aunt today for lunch. She served me a sandwich. Instead of two slices of bread, the
upper slice was replaced with a large

leaf of lettuce.

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It tasted pretty good and I reduced my carb intake by 15 grams.

PJ

gee, and to think I've been folding one piece of bread in half to make a
1/2 sandwich! What was I thinking???

dave

Peanutjake said:

I visited my aunt today for lunch. She served me a sandwich. Instead of two slices of bread, the
upper slice was replaced with a large leaf of lettuce.

It tasted pretty good and I reduced my carb intake by 15 grams.

PJ

In my neck of the woods, we call that an "Open Faced Sandwich".

Jennifer

Peanutjake said:

I visited my aunt today for lunch. She served me a sandwich. Instead of two slices of bread, the
upper slice was replaced with a large leaf of lettuce.

It tasted pretty good and I reduced my carb intake by 15 grams.

PJ

Better yet, if you buy the light bread.... (Pepperidge farm makes a lite multi grain that is just
delicious) you can have your whole sandwich using two slices for the same carbs and calories of one
slice of regular bread.

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gee, and to think I've been folding one piece of bread in half to make a
1/2 sandwich! What was I thinking???

dave

Peanutjake said:

I visited my aunt today for lunch. She served me a sandwich. Instead of two slices of bread, the
upper slice was replaced with a

large leaf of lettuce.

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It tasted pretty good and I reduced my carb intake by 15 grams.

PJ

I'm now eating whole wheat bread. I like white bread better, but this stuff isn't TOO bad. I tried
3 brands before I found one that I like. the worst one was Sara Lee, IIRC. The one in the fridge
now is Country Farms. It has a more balanced flavor and it's softer and fresher than the other 2
brands I tried.

dave

Evelyn Ruut said:

Better yet, if you buy the light bread.... (Pepperidge farm makes a lite multi grain that is just
delicious) you can have your whole sandwich using two slices for the same carbs and calories of
one slice of regular bread.

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Bay Area Dave said:

I'm now eating whole wheat bread.

I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white bread. It has just enough whole
wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes along with sugar. I once got some by mistake which
had molasses in it.

I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole wheat flour.

I did a little research and found a lot of the "lite" breads can and do have more carbs and calories
then regular breads. With the advent of "lo carb" diets and people jumping on the band wagon to try
them, I worked with a nutitionist and came up with some great recipes to make in a breadmaker and
they are light and yummy. Each slice of bread I make is only 6 carbs and not paper thin. I loved
them so much I started selling them to folks on Lo-Carb and diabetic diets and they are doing very
well 🙂 I can send recipes to those who might wanna try them, I also have a killer recipe for peanut
butter cookies and cheesecake squares with about 3 carbs per cookie. I don't mean to sound like I am
advertising here, these recipes are freebies to anyone who wants them. Drop me an email

Lauri

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so I looked at the ingredients. get a load of this:

whole wheat flour water high fructose corn syrup vital wheat gluten yeast 2% or less of the
following: soybean oil salt honey molasses raisin juice concentrate blah blah blah chemicals...

calories per slice - 110 calories from fat - 10 total fat - 1.5g total carb - 20g dietary fiber -
3g protein - 4g

so now what do I do? keep eating it or am i kidding myself that it's healthy stuff?

dave

K'neH'a'Iw said:

Bay Area Dave said:

I'm now eating whole wheat bread.

I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white bread. It has just enough whole
wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes along with sugar. I once got some by mistake which
had molasses in it.

I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole wheat flour.

Jette Goldie said:

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I think my middle name's either Bill or Ben, coz I quite fancy Loobie Loo
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That would be Ted and Andy. Bill and Ben played with Little Weed.

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HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is now considered to be a threat to most comsumers and especially
diabetics.

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so I looked at the ingredients. get a load of this:

whole wheat flour water high fructose corn syrup vital wheat gluten yeast 2% or less of the
following: soybean oil salt honey molasses raisin juice concentrate blah blah blah chemicals...

calories per slice - 110 calories from fat - 10 total fat - 1.5g total carb - 20g dietary fiber -
3g protein - 4g

so now what do I do? keep eating it or am i kidding myself that it's healthy stuff?

dave

K'neH'a'Iw said:

Bay Area Dave wrote:

>I'm now eating whole wheat bread.

I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white bread. It has just enough whole
wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes along with sugar. I once got some by mistake which
had molasses in it.

I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole wheat flour.

It must be terrible to live such a paranoid life Ted. Why is is that almost the entire medical
community is talking about HFCS? Are you afraid that maybe all those twinkies and soda you eat and
drink that got your fat ass Type 2 diabetes will disappear? I can't even recommend you get a life
Ted since you are a waste of life. Good-luck to you sir.

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HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is now considered to be a threat to most comsumers and
especially diabetics.

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so I looked at the ingredients. get a load of this:

whole wheat flour water high fructose corn syrup vital wheat gluten yeast 2% or less of the
following: soybean oil salt honey molasses raisin juice concentrate blah blah blah chemicals...

calories per slice - 110 calories from fat - 10 total fat - 1.5g total carb - 20g dietary fiber
- 3g protein - 4g

so now what do I do? keep eating it or am i kidding myself that it's healthy stuff?

dave

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>Bay Area Dave wrote:
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>>I'm now eating whole wheat bread.
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>I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white bread.

It

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>has just enough whole wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes along with sugar. I once
>got some by mistake which had molasses in it.
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>I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole wheat flour.
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HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is now considered to be a threat to most comsumers and especially
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Ted

I had a look at both those sites and I must be missing something. They sounded like reasonable
articles discussing HFCS. Not a hint of a mention of the A* word. What's the problem? I know the
poster googles up as "Just Me", a swimming pool builder from Canada, but surely that's not a
problem here (although, to an Aussie, outdoor swimming pools in Canada sound as useful as a
snowplough in Cairns)?

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz
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It must be terrible to live such a paranoid life Ted. Why is is that

almost

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the entire medical community is talking about HFCS? Are you afraid that maybe all those twinkies
and soda you eat and drink that got your fat ass Type 2 diabetes will disappear? I can't even
recommend you get a life Ted since you are a waste of life. Good-luck to you sir.

Go away!

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Correct me if i'm wrong, but there is as yet NO evidence that ones diet can lead to being diabetic.
True it may be a contributing factor but it is not the sole cause. Soda and twinkies( whatever they
are) will be around for a long time yet i'm sure. As for your references, they're from articles
published over 7 years ago, hardly breaking news is it? Most of us w ould have the common sense to
avoid the following; sucrose, fructose, lactose and glucose ..since most of them seem to be sugar
based or related in some way. That's just common sense, Fructose and high-fructose corn syrup foods
or HFCS ( but you already knew that) be they natural sugar or otherwise will never be on my diet in
any large quantity as i have now withdrawn my death wish and packed in all the junk i used to eat.

If you honestly believe that the medical community is still discussing the same things in 2003 that
it was in 1996 then you're as mad as a box of frogs and no more use 🙂

Patrick.

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It must be terrible to live such a paranoid life Ted. Why is is that

almost

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the entire medical community is talking about HFCS? Are you afraid that maybe all those twinkies
and soda you eat and drink that got your fat ass Type 2 diabetes will disappear? I can't even
recommend you get a life Ted since you are a waste of life. Good-luck to you sir.

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HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is now considered to be a threat to

most

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comsumers and especially diabetics.

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>so I looked at the ingredients. get a load of this:
>
>whole wheat flour water high fructose corn syrup vital wheat gluten yeast 2% or less of the
>following: soybean oil salt honey molasses raisin juice concentrate blah blah blah
>chemicals...
>
>calories per slice - 110 calories from fat - 10 total fat - 1.5g total carb - 20g dietary
>fiber - 3g protein - 4g
>
>so now what do I do? keep eating it or am i kidding myself that it's healthy stuff?
>
>dave
>
>K'neH'a'Iw wrote:
>
>
>>Bay Area Dave wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm now eating whole wheat bread.
>>
>>
>>I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white bread.

It

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>>has just enough whole wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes along with sugar. I once
>>got some by mistake which had molasses in

it.

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>>I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole wheat flour.
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>

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Ted Rosenberg said:

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BZ said:

HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is now considered to be a threat to most comsumers and especially
diabetics.

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Ted

I had a look at both those sites and I must be missing something. They sounded like reasonable
articles discussing HFCS. Not a hint of a mention of the A* word. What's the problem? I know the
poster googles up as "Just Me", a swimming pool builder from Canada, but surely that's not a
problem here (although, to an Aussie, outdoor swimming pools in Canada sound as useful as a
snowplough in Cairns)?

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz
--
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BZ said:

It must be terrible to live such a paranoid life Ted. Why is is that almost the entire medical
community is talking about HFCS? Are you afraid that maybe all those twinkies and soda you eat and
drink that got your fat ass Type 2 diabetes will disappear? I can't even recommend you get a life
Ted since you are a waste of life. Good-luck to you sir.

spoken like a true mad betty troll.

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HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is now considered to be a threat to

most

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comsumers and especially diabetics.

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Ted

I had a look at both those sites and I must be missing something. They sounded like reasonable
articles discussing HFCS. Not a hint of a mention of the A* word. What's the problem? I know the
poster googles up as "Just Me", a swimming pool builder from Canada, but surely that's not a
problem here (although, to an Aussie, outdoor swimming pools in Canada sound as useful as a
snowplough in Cairns)?

BZ has posted all over the diabetes food NG about the *A* word. So far, I think Ted and I are the
only ones who have seen it. That's why BZ is attacking us.

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It must be terrible to live such a paranoid life Ted. Why is is that

almost

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the entire medical community is talking about HFCS? Are you afraid that maybe all those twinkies
and soda you eat and drink that got your fat ass Type 2 diabetes will disappear? I can't even
recommend you get a life Ted since you are a waste of life. Good-luck to you sir.

If you're a woman, suck my [censored] and if you're not, suck your own, but

Beav

I'm sorry but where are you getting your information? The discussions on
HFCS are current, Google can provide you with links to substantiate that
fact. And yes, your diet is responsible for your Type 2 diabetes. You have
pushed your bodies ability to adjust its insulin to the amount [censored] you put
in it that it simply gives up and a resistance is developed. Type 2 diabetes
is preventable and unnecessary. I have to say this group is quite full of
the most narrow-minded people I have ever had the dis-pleasure of
associating with. I susbscribed to the group because I thought I would find
intelligent conversations regarding diabetes, I am not a diabetic but my son
is (Type 1). I enjoy seeking information and discussing nutrition and diet
related topics but I can see that doesn't happen here. Perhaps there are
others lurking that feel the same way, if so, please feel free to make
contact and a private mailing list could setup so we don't have listen to
the nonsense of the Ted Rosenwhatzits and the Julie Bovines (yes Julie I
have seen your photo - funny how you dispell medical professional opinions
about chemicals you are eating but promote Tarot and dream analysis. LOL).
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Correct me if i'm wrong, but there is as yet NO evidence that ones diet

can

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lead to being diabetic. True it may be a contributing factor but it is not the sole cause. Soda
and twinkies( whatever they are) will be around for a long time yet i'm sure. As for your
references, they're from articles published over 7 years ago, hardly breaking news is it? Most of
us w ould have the common sense to

avoid

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the following; sucrose, fructose, lactose and glucose ..since most of them seem to be sugar based
or related in some way. That's just common sense, Fructose and high-fructose corn syrup foods or
HFCS ( but you already knew that) be

they

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natural sugar or otherwise will never be on my diet in any large quantity

as

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i have now withdrawn my death wish and packed in all the junk i used to

eat.

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If you honestly believe that the medical community is still discussing the same things in 2003
that it was in 1996 then you're as mad as a box of frogs and no more use 🙂

Patrick.

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It must be terrible to live such a paranoid life Ted. Why is is that

almost

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the entire medical community is talking about HFCS? Are you afraid that maybe all those twinkies
and soda you eat and drink that got your fat

ass

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Type 2 diabetes will disappear? I can't even recommend you get a life

Ted

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since you are a waste of life. Good-luck to you sir.

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> HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) is now considered to be a threat to

most

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> comsumers and especially diabetics.
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>>so I looked at the ingredients. get a load of this:
>>
>>whole wheat flour water high fructose corn syrup vital wheat gluten yeast 2% or less of the
>>following: soybean oil salt honey molasses raisin juice concentrate blah blah blah
>>chemicals...
>>
>>calories per slice - 110 calories from fat - 10 total fat - 1.5g total carb - 20g dietary
>>fiber - 3g protein - 4g
>>
>>so now what do I do? keep eating it or am i kidding myself that

it's

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>>healthy stuff?
>>
>>dave
>>
>>K'neH'a'Iw wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Bay Area Dave wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm now eating whole wheat bread.
>>>
>>>
>>>I find lot of whole wheat bread is not much better that white

bread.

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It

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>>>has just enough whole wheat flour to call it whole wheat, sometimes along with sugar. I
>>>once got some by mistake which had molasses in

it.

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>>>
>>>I read the label carefully and look for 100% stone ground whole

wheat

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>>>flour.
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