"BZ" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:I'm sorry but where are you getting your information? The discussions
on
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:HFCS are current, Google can provide you with links to substantiate
that
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:fact. And yes, your diet is responsible for your Type 2 diabetes
Wrong, i'm T1.
I was referring to Type 2, as you can see from my quote above.
When you phrase a statement as openly as that, one would assume when reading a post that you're
referring to me as you said "your diet is ... blah for YOUR type 2 etc etc".
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:. You have
Quoted message said:pushed your bodies ability to adjust its insulin to the amount [censored]
you
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:put
Quoted message said:in it that it simply gives up and a resistance is developed.
Wrong, i am lucky enough to have T1, and since the medical profession
cannot
Quoted message said:find a reason for me getting it i'm quite sure you can't either.
You consider yourself "lucky" to have Type 1 diabetes? I wouldn't consider yourself lucky at all.
I have never professed that the medical community
had
Quoted message said:information regarding why people develope Type1 nor have I suggested I do either.
I am lucky, i don't have to put up with all those infernal meds that t2's are lumbered with 😉
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:Type 2 diabetes
Quoted message said:is preventable and unnecessary. I have to say this group is quite full
of
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:the most narrow-minded people I have ever had the dis-pleasure of associating with. I
susbscribed to the group because I thought I would
find
Quoted message said:intelligent conversations regarding diabetes, I am not a diabetic but
my
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:son
Quoted message said:is (Type 1). I enjoy seeking information and discussing nutrition and
diet
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:related topics but I can see that doesn't happen here. Perhaps there
are
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:others lurking that feel the same way, if so, please feel free to make contact and a private
mailing list could setup so we don't have listen
to
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:the nonsense of the Ted Rosenwhatzits and the Julie Bovines (yes Julie
I
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:have seen your photo - funny how you dispell medical professional
opinions
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:about chemicals you are eating but promote Tarot and dream analysis.
LOL).
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Just for the record i'm neither overweight nor narrow minded. I can't comment on T2 diabetes as
i don't have it. Intelligent diet for a
diabetic
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:is no different to the diet required for a normal healthy person because that is what in essence
we all are. Just be aware that what you see as interesting discussion may well have been "done
to death" by what these "narrow minded people" would call a troll or a spammer 😉
Since I was commenting on Type 2 and you are Type 1 then why have
responded?
Quoted message said:Please pay attention.
Of course i pay attention, you responded as if you implied that i was also T2 😉
Your correct about diet. When my son was diagnosed
Quoted message said:with Type 1 diabetes almost 8 years ago now I was initially upset and
angry.
Quoted message said:I quickly realized though that it meant that our entire family would be making changes to our
lifestyle that would be ultimately more healthy. In the past 8 years we have worked very closely
with our endocrinologist and dieticians to the point where we can make much better choices in the
foods we consume. The problem here is that when a person presents something for discussion and the
topics are current (HFCS) being dealt with by professionals worldwide, why do the narrow-minded
people here resort to
name
Quoted message said:calling and paranoid re-actions to facts that are not created by "trolls"
or
Quoted message said:"spammers"? I am not selling anything, what have I to gain by looking to educate and be educated?
Why does the discussion of ingesting chemicals upset these people so much? As an example, and I
don't use or have
anything
Quoted message said:to do with any company that does, lets take the debate over Stevia and Aspartame. Should an
intelligent person assume that a chemical produced
for
Quoted message said:profit (lots!) should be accepted over an herb that has been used ny Peruvians for many centuries?
Can I be called a "troll" or a "spammer" for suggesting a discussion of this topic? These
discussions may have already taken place and been "done to death" as you suggest, but there are
new people coming into these groups daily and old topics will inherintly re-surface as they do in
ALL newsgroups. Using foul language and telling people to f-off because they don't like your
opinions is narrow-minded.
Are
Quoted message said:there not people here who have children that may want to get involved in reasonable discussions
about their condition or learn more about diabetes
so
Quoted message said:they can understand it more because a loved one is diabetic? I'm sorry but the responses in this
group lead me to believe that there are a few in
this
Quoted message said:group that are not capable of social interaction and have maybe spent far too many years behind a
computer screen to know how to behave in a real group of people.
I actually agree with you, to be honest certain groups seem to be more agressive in their approach
to things like this, personally i try and keep an open mind in such things but i tend to steer clear
of foods that are "designed" for diabetics as for me at least they hold no appeal. I prefer to make
my diet up of foods that are readily availble over the counter and taken in moderation and sensibly
are no better or worse for me than for anyone else.
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:If you must approach a subject in the same manner as a troll or spammer would then you can
hardly moan when you get the same reception can you.
Something has changed I guess in the way people communicate. I thought joining a conversation was
called participating. So basically, if I don't agree or have another perspective on a topic I can
be considered a "troll" or a "spammer". Insightful...
I meant this in the context of how some people will recieve you, for my own part i've no problem
with what you post. usenet is a good source of info and the logical conclusion of that is that
anything deemed relevant by the poster is fit for discussion🙂
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:> i have now withdrawn my death wish and packed in all the junk i used
to
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:eat.
I would bet that you are still making poor dietary choices. But of course
if
Quoted message said:I were to suggest discussing any of them I could expect to be stoned to death.
I'm actually making some very major dietary changes based largely on what i read on here and also
based on my own testing to see what works for me. I don't think everyone in all of the groups you're
posting to would stone you to death, verbally or otherwise. The only way one can make a decision
based on choice is if one has access to as much information as possible.
Like you i'm finding that certain groups are better to post in and start discussions on this than
certain others and i also suspect that I, like you will be restricting my posting to that group and
simply read the rest for information purposes only.
