H*lm*ts: Ever get the feeling you've been stitched up?

[Dave Larrington]

Clive George wrote:
> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> At Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:52:30 GMT, message
>> <[email protected]> was posted by
>> [email protected] (Steven), including some, all or none of the
>> following:
>>
>>> What a coincidence. I started re-reading Scoop this very day!
>>
>> Good, innit?
>
> What gets me is how much better it is than any of his other stuff
> (IMO of course). Hopes dashed and all that.

Three words.

The Loved One.

That is all.

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Here, take these cheese-shaped stilts. You'll know when to use them.

 

[Steven]

On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 23:28:45 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>At Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:52:30 GMT, message
><[email protected]> was posted by
>[email protected] (Steven), including some, all or none of the
>following:
>
>>What a coincidence. I started re-reading Scoop this very day!
>
>Good, innit?

Yes, I've been laughing away since I started reading.

I first read it many years ago as a teenager, and I think I get a few more of
the 'jokes' now.

 

[Chris Slade]

Dave Larrington wrote:

> Clive George wrote:
>> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> At Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:52:30 GMT, message
>>> <[email protected]> was posted by
>>> [email protected] (Steven), including some, all or none of the
>>> following:
>>>
>>>> What a coincidence. I started re-reading Scoop this very day!
>>>
>>> Good, innit?
>>
>> What gets me is how much better it is than any of his other stuff
>> (IMO of course). Hopes dashed and all that.
>
> Three words.
>
> The Loved One.
>
> That is all.
>

Good film, I've never read it though.

I see amazon have Scoop & the Loved One in a single volume, with Black
Mischief and The Ordeal of Gilbert Pinfold. Looks to be worth getting.

I wonder if there is any cycling content in there?

--
Chris

 

[Julesh]

Chris Slade wrote:
> Dave Larrington wrote:
>
>
>>Clive George wrote:
>>
>>>"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>
>>>>At Wed, 22 Jun 2005 11:52:30 GMT, message
>>>><[email protected]> was posted by
>>>>[email protected] (Steven), including some, all or none of the
>>>>following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>What a coincidence. I started re-reading Scoop this very day!
>>>>
>>>>Good, innit?
>>>
>>>What gets me is how much better it is than any of his other stuff
>>>(IMO of course). Hopes dashed and all that.
>>
>>Three words.
>>
>>The Loved One.
>>
>>That is all.
>>
>
>
> Good film, I've never read it though.
>
> I see amazon have Scoop & the Loved One in a single volume, with Black
> Mischief and The Ordeal of Gilbert Pinfold. Looks to be worth getting.
>
> I wonder if there is any cycling content in there?
>
I've not read The Loved One but the Ordeal of Gilbert Pinfold is about a
guy having hallucinations on an ocean liner so I doubt there is much
cycling content there.


Julesh

 

[Mark McNeill]

Response to Just zis Guy, you know?:

[McNeilltrack apologises for the late running of this message: this is
due to RL on the line.]

> Trying to come up with soundbytes to counter the "Scary head injuries!
> Waaah!" and "Bike Danger!" ******** is nigh on impossible.

I've been reminded more than once by this topic of another Mencken quote:
"One horse-laugh is worth ten thousand syllogisms." - but of course this
would be seen as being flippant about ten thousand child deaths a year,
or whatever it is Be-Hit is claiming this month.


> The previous day (or maybe the day before that) there will be an
> extended debate on obesity. Guess which country has the lowest rate
> of obesity in Western Europe, despite having no hills to ride up?
> Cycle use correlates strongly with low rates of obesity and heart
> disease.

Worth making that point in that debate, of course.

--
Mark, UK

"If you torture data sufficiently, it will confess to almost anything."

 

[Clive George]

"Dave Larrington" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>>>> What a coincidence. I started re-reading Scoop this very day!
>>>
>>> Good, innit?
>>
>> What gets me is how much better it is than any of his other stuff
>> (IMO of course). Hopes dashed and all that.
>
> Three words.
>
> The Loved One.
>
> That is all.

Cool, ta. And it appears we even have a copy, published by Guy and Tim (or
possibly their parents).

cheers,
clive

 

[Peter Clinch]

Dave Larrington wrote:
> Clive George wrote:

>>What gets me is how much better it is than any of his other stuff
>>(IMO of course). Hopes dashed and all that.

> The Loved One.
>
> That is all.

Or Handful of Dust, or Brideshead Revisited, or Decline and Fall.

Must get round to the Sword of Honour trilogy one of these days...

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

 

[Just zis Guy, you know?]

At Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:17:23 +0100, message
<[email protected]> was posted by Peter Clinch
<[email protected]>, including some, all or none of the
following:

>Must get round to the Sword of Honour trilogy one of these days...

My history teacher once recommended to me that I read the "Guy
Crouchback" trilogy - and now I know what I should have been looking
for


Guy
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

"To every complex problem there is a solution which is
simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

 

[Julesh]

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> At Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:17:23 +0100, message
> <[email protected]> was posted by Peter Clinch
> <[email protected]>, including some, all or none of the
> following:
>
>
>>Must get round to the Sword of Honour trilogy one of these days...
>
>
> My history teacher once recommended to me that I read the "Guy
> Crouchback" trilogy - and now I know what I should have been looking
> for
>
>
> Guy
> --
> http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
>
> "To every complex problem there is a solution which is
> simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

I remember it as being very good - although it must be twenty years ago
I read it. I suppose I'd better read it again!


Julesh

 

[Patrick Herring]

| "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> wrote:
|
| At Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:20:15 +0100, message
| <[email protected]> was posted by Patrick
| Herring <[email protected]>, including some, all or none of the
| following:
|
| >| The crucial thing to get across to doctors at this meeting is that
| >| voting for compulsion is not about saying that helmets are good, the
| >| BMA already says that; it's saying: if you believe cycling is not so
| >| very dangerous that a trip to the shops requires special protective
| >| equipment, that you are not only wrong, but criminally wrong.
|
| >Isn't it also saying "the public is a danger to itself and can't be
| >trusted to make up it's own mind" which, to a doctor, is spot on?
|
| Maybe. But I think it's mad. "Cycling is good for you, but so
| dangerous that there is no journey for which you may ride without a
| helmet". Mixed messages? Over this way, sir.

Is it cycling that they think has suddenly become a death-trap or is it
just the Modern World (TM): "All those things whizzing about, some of
them controlled by computers, no one person understands it all so
everyone is subject to unforseeable danger". And perhaps they're right,
the main problem is seeing helmets as a solution.

I've thought of a rejoinder sound-bite to "Bike Danger!". It is "Helmets
are Dangerous". That might stop them for long enough to explain risk
compensation. You have to fight like with like.

--
Patrick Herring, http://www.anweald.co.uk/ph

 

[Terry D]

Patrick Herring wrote:

>
> I've thought of a rejoinder sound-bite to "Bike Danger!". It is "Helmets
> are Dangerous". That might stop them for long enough to explain risk
> compensation. You have to fight like with like.
>
> --
> Patrick Herring, http://www.anweald.co.uk/ph

I think we need to follow the Hitchhikers Guide '42' principle here. Now that we
know that 'cycle helmets' is the answer, we need to find out what the question was.

I can commit a BBC B full time to this quest if someone can come up with
suitable software.

--
Terry Duckmanton.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/terry.duckmanton
A website mostly dedicated to cycling