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Yup, this is another tire question... I'm (230lbs and dropping)

What is your target weight? It can be seriously achieved while riding your
bike, trust me.

winnard

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Yup, this is another tire question... I'm (230lbs and dropping)doing a
lot of riding in Western Washington. Lots of blacktop and chip seal
(or, crushed rock and tar-mix garbage)plus a sweet variety of hilly
terrain. I have been using Vittoria Rubino Pro Kevlar tires and love
the feel. But, like most that know, don't like the price and how fast
I can go through them. They are fantastic with very minamal
flats(knocking on wood now), but with my weight and mixture of funky
street materials, I start developing a flat taper on the rear close to
700 miles. I'd appreciate any input. And yes, I know, LBS and crappy
streets DO add up...

Thanks,
Scott

Scott: Same kind of roads and riding conditions over here in Spokane. Any
good riding tire in going to develop a 'flat taper' on the rear tire in 700
miles, you can't escape it. Tires that are longer wearing, like Specialized
Armadillos, provide a hard and rough ride and won't be pleasant.

I'm 205#, ride hard, and use Vittoria Open Corsa EVO CX, Conti Ultra 2000
and Michelin Axial Carbon tires on my various bikes. I run 100 psi pressure
and inspect them at the end of every ride for cuts, etc. I discard my rear
tire around 1500~2500 miles and move the front tire to the rear. I would
tell you to get an accurate pressure gauge, run pressures (for your weight)
around 110~115 psi, and when you get lighter run less pressure. If you like
the Rubinos, find an online source for them and buy more than 1 or 2 at a
time.

Isn't there a "rule of thumb", something like 1/2 your weight plus 5 (or
maybe 10) psi? Has anybody heard of this?

Memory is the second thing that goes, the legs are usually first.

Mike Lackey
Madison, AL

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Yup, this is another tire question... I'm (230lbs and dropping)doing a
lot of riding in Western Washington. Lots of blacktop and chip seal
(or, crushed rock and tar-mix garbage)plus a sweet variety of hilly
terrain. I have been using Vittoria Rubino Pro Kevlar tires and love
the feel. But, like most that know, don't like the price and how fast
I can go through them. They are fantastic with very minamal
flats(knocking on wood now), but with my weight and mixture of funky
street materials, I start developing a flat taper on the rear close to
700 miles. I'd appreciate any input. And yes, I know, LBS and crappy
streets DO add up...

Thanks,
Scott

We have "Chip & seal" (or as I call them, 40-grit or "Carolina Pave"😉
roads here too. Do your tires come in a slightly wider version. Out
here, even the <I>fast</i> riders rarely ride tires less than 25-28mm

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"May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!"

Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

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Yup, this is another tire question... I'm (230lbs and dropping)doing a
lot of riding in Western Washington. Lots of blacktop and chip seal
(or, crushed rock and tar-mix garbage)plus a sweet variety of hilly
terrain. I have been using Vittoria Rubino Pro Kevlar tires and love
the feel. But, like most that know, don't like the price and how fast
I can go through them. They are fantastic with very minamal
flats(knocking on wood now), but with my weight and mixture of funky
street materials, I start developing a flat taper on the rear close to
700 miles. I'd appreciate any input. And yes, I know, LBS and crappy
streets DO add up...

Thanks,
Scott

Scott: Same kind of roads and riding conditions over here in Spokane. Any
good riding tire in going to develop a 'flat taper' on the rear tire in 700
miles, you can't escape it. Tires that are longer wearing, like Specialized
Armadillos, provide a hard and rough ride and won't be pleasant.

I'm 205#, ride hard, and use Vittoria Open Corsa EVO CX, Conti Ultra 2000
and Michelin Axial Carbon tires on my various bikes. I run 100 psi pressure
and inspect them at the end of every ride for cuts, etc. I discard my rear
tire around 1500~2500 miles and move the front tire to the rear. I would
tell you to get an accurate pressure gauge, run pressures (for your weight)
around 110~115 psi, and when you get lighter run less pressure. If you like
the Rubinos, find an online source for them and buy more than 1 or 2 at a
time.

Hey thanks Dave... Kind of figured the miles would be about the same
with all the tires...Funny you mentioned it, but I'm running a pair of
Corsa's now at 115psi... Seem a tad softer then the Rubinos, but
certainly a faster and more comfortable ride... That probably equades
to faster wear and more money outta pocket. Been surfing regularly for
lower prices on the Rubinos but there is not much of a fudge factor
with them.

Scott

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Yup, this is another tire question... I'm (230lbs and dropping)doing a
lot of riding in Western Washington. Lots of blacktop and chip seal
(or, crushed rock and tar-mix garbage)plus a sweet variety of hilly
terrain. I have been using Vittoria Rubino Pro Kevlar tires and love
the feel. But, like most that know, don't like the price and how fast
I can go through them. They are fantastic with very minamal
flats(knocking on wood now), but with my weight and mixture of funky
street materials, I start developing a flat taper on the rear close to
700 miles. I'd appreciate any input. And yes, I know, LBS and crappy
streets DO add up...

Thanks,
Scott

Scott: Same kind of roads and riding conditions over here in Spokane.

Any

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good riding tire in going to develop a 'flat taper' on the rear tire in

700

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miles, you can't escape it. Tires that are longer wearing, like

Specialized

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Armadillos, provide a hard and rough ride and won't be pleasant.

I'm 205#, ride hard, and use Vittoria Open Corsa EVO CX, Conti Ultra

2000

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and Michelin Axial Carbon tires on my various bikes. I run 100 psi

pressure

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and inspect them at the end of every ride for cuts, etc. I discard my

rear

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tire around 1500~2500 miles and move the front tire to the rear. I would
tell you to get an accurate pressure gauge, run pressures (for your

weight)

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around 110~115 psi, and when you get lighter run less pressure. If you

like

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the Rubinos, find an online source for them and buy more than 1 or 2 at

a

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time.

Hey thanks Dave... Kind of figured the miles would be about the same
with all the tires...Funny you mentioned it, but I'm running a pair of
Corsa's now at 115psi... Seem a tad softer then the Rubinos, but
certainly a faster and more comfortable ride... That probably equades
to faster wear and more money outta pocket. Been surfing regularly for
lower prices on the Rubinos but there is not much of a fudge factor
with them.

Scott

Another tack is to use a larger, say 700X25 tire. You can run even lower
pressures, they give very nice rides and will wear longer. Take a look at
Conti Ultra 2000 in 700X25, they can be had relatively cheap on sale, are
very durable and long lasting. I've had a set on my Kirk for over 1500 miles
now and the rear is barely showing the 'flat taper' that you talk about.
Performance/Nashbar/Supergo has them:
http://www.performancebike.com/shop/profile.cfm?SKU=4602&subcategory_ID=5420
for $20.00.

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Yup, this is another tire question... I'm (230lbs and dropping)doing a
lot of riding in Western Washington. Lots of blacktop and chip seal
(or, crushed rock and tar-mix garbage)plus a sweet variety of hilly
terrain. I have been using Vittoria Rubino Pro Kevlar tires and love
the feel. But, like most that know, don't like the price and how fast
I can go through them. They are fantastic with very minamal
flats(knocking on wood now), but with my weight and mixture of funky
street materials, I start developing a flat taper on the rear close to
700 miles. I'd appreciate any input. And yes, I know, LBS and crappy
streets DO add up...

Thanks,
Scott

I'm at 215 lbs. and I ride similar roads- not surprising, since I live
outside Portland, OR. Last weekend on STP I blew out a Continental Top
Touring 700 x 28 (stupid mechanic [1] didn't adjust the brake shoes
right). I booted the tire and rode to the Chehalis stop for a
replacement.

What I ended up with was a tire new to me: a Serfas Seca 700 x 28,
rated at 125 psi. ( http://www.serfas.com/tires/tires_03.html ) This
is the highest rating I've seen on a tire this size. IMO, the
combination of wide-ish tire and high pressure is good on chipseal-
you get low rolling resistance without a tooth-rattling ride. So far
it's been good- but naturally I can't comment on its durability.

Jeff Wills

[1] me

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... I start developing a flat taper on the rear close to
700 miles.

So? A flat area in the middle of the rear tire does not mean it is worn
out. It's worn out when the cord shows through.

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scottt said:

... I start developing a flat taper on the rear close to
700 miles.

So? A flat area in the middle of the rear tire does not mean it is worn
out. It's worn out when the cord shows through.

That's true D, I get another 200-miles once there is a flat area.
Problem is, with the Rubino Pros, at this point you can almost poke
your thumbnail through the tire, and for a big boy like me and the
distance from home I usually travel I feel better with the new rubber.
Especially after the sweet tip from alother poster: Dave... Thanks
Dave U DA Man. The bonus is...my LBS will match their price (YEAaaa).

http://www.labicicletta.com/edatcat/us/tlsstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=US-VITOPENRUBINO23

Thanks,
Scott

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http://www.labicicletta.com/edatcat/us/tlsstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=US-VITOPENRUBINO23

Out of stock (no surprise at that price!).

I got a pair of Rubino Pros -- with FREE LAKE SHOES -- for $69.99 (IIRC)
from PricePoint months ago.

Lucked out with the shoes (they fit fine AND aren't half-bad), and loved the
tires. (Rear wore out fairly quickly, but front is still good.)

Trying a pair of Techno Pros right now; they're butt-ugly yellow but roll
really nice. (More tread than any other road tire I've tried.)

Bill "still have three new Veloflex Paves I can't seem to get to" S.

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Yup, this is another tire question... I'm (230lbs and dropping)doing a
lot of riding in Western Washington. Lots of blacktop and chip seal
(or, crushed rock and tar-mix garbage)plus a sweet variety of hilly
terrain. I have been using Vittoria Rubino Pro Kevlar tires and love
the feel. But, like most that know, don't like the price and how fast
I can go through them. They are fantastic with very minamal
flats(knocking on wood now), but with my weight and mixture of funky
street materials, I start developing a flat taper on the rear close to
700 miles. I'd appreciate any input. And yes, I know, LBS and crappy
streets DO add up...

Thanks,
Scott

i went from 210 to 170 in a few months..
and i have been using fortezza with 105 in front and 115 psi in the back..
i also have used hutchinson comps carbon which are ok
and gamatalia calypso for racing ONLY!
and also micheln pros are great and reliable

izzodesh said:

i went from 210 to 170 in a few months..
and i have been using fortezza with 105 in front and 115 psi in the back..
i also have used hutchinson comps carbon which are ok
and gamatalia calypso for racing ONLY!
and also micheln pros are great and reliable

Colorado Cyclist has pretty good sale prices on all their Vittoria tires right now.

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scottt said:

... I start developing a flat taper on the rear close to
700 miles.

So? A flat area in the middle of the rear tire does not mean it is worn
out. It's worn out when the cord shows through.

That's true D, I get another 200-miles once there is a flat area.

You're kidding. With my tires, Avocet FasGrips, I get more like 2000
miles after the flat has developed. So, I ignore it.

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Problem is, with the Rubino Pros, at this point you can almost poke your
thumbnail through the tire, and for a big boy like me and the distance
from home I usually travel I feel better with the new rubber.

Do what you want, but I weigh nearly what you do, and get 3000-4000 miles
on a tire. As I said, Avocets. Go for the "road" tire, a 25mm.

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