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  1. I've been meaning to post a report about our trip to France, but
    we've had so much to do since we got back, I procrastinated a lot. ๐Ÿ™‚
    (Most of these pictures were posted to alt.binaries.food, so if there's
    any lurkers of that group, there isn't much new stuff to see here.)

    As you might expect, food was wonderful in France. Expensive, but
    wonderful. Erik and I stayed a week in Paris, then rented a car and drove
    through Normandy to Honfleur and Mont St-Michel, then to the Loire Valley
    region, to the Perigord region, and then Arles in Provence before catching
    the TGV back to Paris. We did try to sample some regional fare in each
    place we went, but shoot...there was just too much food, and too little
    time! I did have foie gras a couple times and liked it, although it
    wasn't my favorite food. We both liked escargot, and it was fun prying
    them out of their shells.

    We ate mostly in cafes and a few moderately priced restaurants, nothing
    super fancy. I think food quality in general is higher over there, even
    in relatively casual eateries. Great bread was readily available, and
    cheaper than it is here, too. So was wine. I don't drink, but Erik
    sometimes ordered a small carafe of it with lunch or dinner and he enjoyed
    whatever he had. Grocery stores with their gigantic cheese sections
    amazed us, and I've lost track of how many ripe rounds of camembert we
    consumed while there. Our rental car was full of baguette crumbs and
    smelled like cheese by the end of the trip. But it was worth it. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    One of the best meals isn't pictured, because we forgot the camera. It
    was an enormous platter of fruits de mer in Honfleur: piles of whelks,
    periwinkles, shrimp, langostines, raw oysters and two big crabs on top,
    served with homemade mayonnaise and shallot-vinegar sauce. We really miss
    all the wonderful fresh seafood over there.

    Here's the URL. I'm afraid there are a LOT of pictures (over 100) so
    you'd have to be fairly patient to look at them all, but I thought I'd
    post them in case anyone is curious. Also, some of them are
    darker/blurrier than I'd like, but they seem to improve as I got more used
    to photographing food and outdoor markets.

    http://share.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=EeAMWrly4aOWjKog

    These are just the food pictures. A full travelogue and the rest of the
    pictures are available elsewhere. I did e-mail some people a trip report
    if I thought they'd be interested, but I won't post it here since it's not
    really on-topic. Drop me a line if you want a copy. ๐Ÿ™‚ All in all, we
    enjoyed our trip very much, and will likely return to France someday for a
    longer stay in the Perigord region, and to visit the eastern half of
    France, maybe more of Normandy. France is a beautiful country, and I think it
    has many sights everyone should try to see at least once in their lifetime.

    Ariane
    --
    Individuality: Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody
    else.
    http://www.despair.com/individuality.html

  2. "Ariane Jenkins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    I've been meaning to post a report about our trip to France, but
    we've had so much to do since we got back, I procrastinated a lot. ๐Ÿ™‚
    (Most of these pictures were posted to alt.binaries.food, so if there's
    any lurkers of that group, there isn't much new stuff to see here.)


    The steak in Paris made my mouth water! (and it's only 8am!)
    Sarah

  3. Fabulous pix! I want to go back! We had 5 weeks in France in 2001 and
    like you, loved the markets, the food, the store displays....practising
    my schoolgirl french.....
    I agree, a country to visit at least once in a lifetime.

    Cheers
    Bronwyn
    Australia

  4. Michel Boucher said:

    Ariane Jenkins <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I did have foie gras
    a couple times and liked it, although it wasn't my favorite food.

    HERESY!!!!!!!


    *laughs* Sorry. I'm not really a big fan of liver in general, but
    don't mind it if it's not really strong tasting. I have tried monkfish liver
    (ankimo) at our local sushi bar. It's served with chopped scallions and ponzu
    sauce and we liked it a lot...the texture/taste is somewhat similar to foie
    gras.

    But hey, look at it this way...it's expensive and difficult to obtain
    here, so maybe it's just as well I didn't LOVE it. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Ariane

  5. Victor Sack said:


    Very nice pictures they are, too! Thanks. Your food tastes seem to be
    very similar to mine, sweets excepted. You've been in at least one of
    my favourite haunts of yore, Fermette du Sud-Ouest, which I used to
    visit many years ago, until the change of the owners and the chef - and
    they changed a few more times after that... I notice that you've also
    been at Pied-de-Cochon, a still nice but very touristy place. And you
    stayed in the 7th arrondissement, my favourite corner of Paris.

    Yep, the 7th and the 1st as well. Both were very nicely located to
    see a lot of the usual tourist stuff, and we did a lot of walking/riding the
    Metro. It helped to counteract all the rich dinners.

    Fermette du Sud-Ouest was one of my favorite places we went to in
    Paris, just an all-round good meal. The lamb was the best of the trip, too.
    Pied de Cochon was interesting, but more gimmicky than most places. I'm not
    sure I'd bother to go there again, it wasn't that special. Maybe if I'd
    ordered something else besides the andouillette...but I was curious and wanted
    to try it at least once. Now I know. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Ariane

  6. karen said:


    Oh, it sounds like you had a great time! How nice that you had the
    time to see the countryside, and Paris, of course. ๐Ÿ™ .....I couldn't
    see your pictures.

    Awwww, sorry Karen. ๐Ÿ™ I don't remember if I sent you the full
    travelogues, but I'll forward you a copy just in case. We did have a great
    time. While even 3 weeks isn't enough to see all of France, I think we got a
    nice sampling in, and now we have more ideas for where we'd like to go next
    time. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Ariane

  7. Ariane Jenkins said:

    This was our first trip, but I'm sure it won't be the last. Erik isn't
    quite certain he could live there.... I guess it would depend on where. As
    much as we enjoyed Paris, I'm not a big city sort of person. There are
    aspects of bigger cities that I like, but the noise, traffic and crowds get to
    me after a while. And out in the country, there's a definite lack of sushi
    bars. <g>

    And why would you want sushi bars when their is so much good food?

    The first two times I went to Paris I found restaurants very expensive, but I was a
    typical tourist and sticking to the main tourist areas. The last time I was there
    we went a little further afield and found much better food for about half what we
    had been paying.

    The countryside over there is beautiful at this time of year. My last two trips
    there were in May, and on the last one we rented a car and wandered aimlessly
    around France after Denmark, Germany, Holland and Belgium. We came in near Lille,
    visited Vimy Ridge and, because it was raining, got in the car and drove until we
    found the sun. That was in Reims. The fields were yellow with blooms. We found that
    hotels and meals in that area were about half what they were in Paris.

    On a previous trip we had a rail pass, came into France from Italy and stayed in
    Nice for a few days, then back up to Paris on the TGV. The south had some
    magnificent scenery and I would like to get back an explore that region some time.

  8. Ariane Jenkins <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Michel Boucher said:

    Ariane Jenkins <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    I did have foie gras
    a couple times and liked it, although it wasn't my favorite
    food.

    HERESY!!!!!!!


    *laughs* Sorry. I'm not really a big fan of liver in
    general, but
    don't mind it if it's not really strong tasting. I have tried
    monkfish liver (ankimo) at our local sushi bar. It's served with
    chopped scallions and ponzu sauce and we liked it a lot...the
    texture/taste is somewhat similar to foie gras.

    But hey, look at it this way...it's expensive and difficult
    to obtain
    here, so maybe it's just as well I didn't LOVE it. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Ximenes: Heresy with an explanation...sheesh...what next? Pleading
    for mercy? Biggles! Get the comfy chair and the...gasp...soft
    pillow!

    Biggles: Not the...gak...soft pillow!!

    Ximenes: Yes. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

    --

    "Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

    Dostoevski, The Idiot

  9. On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:58:35 -0400, Dave Smith <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    And why would you want sushi bars when their is so much good food?

    Hey now!! ;p

    Quoted message said:

    The first two times I went to Paris I found restaurants very expensive, but I was a
    typical tourist and sticking to the main tourist areas. The last time I was there
    we went a little further afield and found much better food for about half what we
    had been paying.

    Yeah, it helps to go off the beaten path a bit. But in general, prices
    were still higher than what we're used to paying and considering the exchange
    rate... Well, we learned to not look so carefully at the bill, that's all. A
    heart attack isn't the best way to finish off a good meal!

    Quoted message said:

    The countryside over there is beautiful at this time of year. My last two trips
    there were in May, and on the last one we rented a car and wandered aimlessly
    around France after Denmark, Germany, Holland and Belgium. We came in near Lille,
    visited Vimy Ridge and, because it was raining, got in the car and drove until we
    found the sun. That was in Reims. The fields were yellow with blooms. We found that
    hotels and meals in that area were about half what they were in Paris.

    On a previous trip we had a rail pass, came into France from Italy and stayed in
    Nice for a few days, then back up to Paris on the TGV. The south had some
    magnificent scenery and I would like to get back an explore that region some time.

    Sounds wonderful, Dave. I'd love to take more time and explore
    more of France and Europe by car. And having the car definitely helped.
    While I did enjoy our train trip, there's many little villages that aren't
    really very accessible without a car. We would've missed out on a great deal.
    Accomodations/meal prices were also lower in the country vs. big cities, but
    that's not surprising. I think next time, I'd be more inclined to stay put
    and make lots of daytrips. The Perigord was our favorite region, I
    think...so many beautiful villages tucked into hillsides!

    Ariane

  10. Ariane laughs:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    *laughs* Sorry. I'm not really a big fan of liver in
    general, but
    don't mind it if it's not really strong tasting. I have tried
    monkfish liver (ankimo) at our local sushi bar. It's served with
    chopped scallions and ponzu sauce and we liked it a lot...the
    texture/taste is somewhat similar to foie gras.

    But hey, look at it this way...it's expensive and difficult
    obtain
    here, so maybe it's just as well I didn't LOVE it. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Michel says:

    Quoted message said:

    Ximenes: Heresy with an explanation...sheesh...what next? Pleading
    for mercy? Biggles! Get the comfy chair and the...gasp...soft
    pillow!

    Biggles: Not the...gak...soft pillow!!

    Ximenes: Yes. Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!


    I would love to try foie gras one time. I haven't eaten much liver
    after my mother's dry liver and onions, but chicken and beef liver
    terrines go over well here. The problem is, they make too much for two
    people.

    So! Where the hell was Biggles when you needed him last Saturday?
    And where were all the sportsmen who always pulled you through?
    They're all resting down in Cornwall --
    writing up their memoirs for a paperback edition of the Boyscout
    manual.

    Ian Anderson

    Quoted message said:


    "Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

    Dostoevski, The Idiot

    It's been years since I read The Idiot but I loved it.

  11. "karen" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    I would love to try foie gras one time. I haven't eaten much
    liver after my mother's dry liver and onions, but chicken and beef
    liver terrines go over well here.

    Foie gras is nothing like liver. For one thing, the fat content
    changes the texture immensely and cognac and truffles add to the taste.

    Don't think of foie gras as liver. Think of it as ambrosia.

    Of course, I say that and will not touch any other type of organ meat
    :-)

    --

    "Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

    Dostoevski, The Idiot

  12. Ariane Jenkins said:

    Yeah, it helps to go off the beaten path a bit. But in general, prices
    were still higher than what we're used to paying and considering the exchange
    rate... Well, we learned to not look so carefully at the bill, that's all. A
    heart attack isn't the best way to finish off a good meal!

    I have heard that prices were considerably higher after switching to the Euro, apparently
    the vendors looking for those magic figures that make their prices appealing or
    unappealing. The last time I was in Paris we found a place 3-4 blocks north of Champs
    Elysee where we got a fantastic 3 course menu for 140FF each, which would have been
    about $25US at the time, and you wouldn't get a meal like that in a restaurant like that
    around here for that price. In Reims the 3 course meals were around 110FF, but the best
    prices we found were in Verdun, where the best menu deal was 90 FF. We were stuffed by
    the time we finished out appetizers. My wife's shrimp and avocado had more shrimp on top
    as garnish that we would get here for a serving. I made it about half way through my huge
    steak.

    One real find was at a little town a few miles north of Verdun where we had a fantastic
    lunch, a carrot salad, a pasta dish, baguettes heated by an open fire, flan for dessert,
    carafe of wine and coffee for 55 FF.

    Quoted message said:


    Sounds wonderful, Dave. I'd love to take more time and explore
    more of France and Europe by car. And having the car definitely helped.
    While I did enjoy our train trip, there's many little villages that aren't
    really very accessible without a car. We would've missed out on a great deal.
    Accomodations/meal prices were also lower in the country vs. big cities, but
    that's not surprising. I think next time, I'd be more inclined to stay put
    and make lots of daytrips. The Perigord was our favorite region, I
    think...so many beautiful villages tucked into hillsides!

    There are definite advantages to using a car. You can get into smaller towns. Rail was a
    terrific way to tour Europe the first time because their rails system is so good. You can
    go from anywhere to anywhere, perhaps needing an occasional taxi/ Train stations are
    usually close to nice and reasonably priced hotels. On the second trip I was part of a
    party of five, one who wanted every minute of the trip planned out ahead of time. I won't
    bother with the details, but just say that was the last group trip I will ever go on.

    On the last trip we had some things we had to do in Denmark, a place to see in Germany,
    find the house where my wife's grandfather was born in Holland, visit a friend in
    Holland. Then we had time to wander aimlessly. That was the best one of all. We ended up
    following the battle lines of WW I, seeing some of the battlefields and visiting a number
    of war cemeteries. The best one was the American war cemetery in the Argonne where my
    father in law had seen action with the US army in WW I. That cemetery was beautiful.

  13. "Ariane Jenkins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I've been meaning to post a report about our trip to France, but
    we've had so much to do since we got back, I procrastinated a lot. ๐Ÿ™‚
    (Most of these pictures were posted to alt.binaries.food, so if there's
    any lurkers of that group, there isn't much new stuff to see here.)

    <snip>

    Wow, wow, wow, wow!!! Oh my gosh! Great photos Ariane. Looks like you
    guys had a fabulous time! I may need to plan a trip in a couple of years.

    Thank you so much for sharing.

    Cyndi FeelingFullFromFotos

  14. "Michel Boucher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "karen" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    I would love to try foie gras one time. I haven't eaten much
    liver after my mother's dry liver and onions, but chicken and beef
    liver terrines go over well here.

    Foie gras is nothing like liver. For one thing, the fat content
    changes the texture immensely and cognac and truffles add to the taste.

    Don't think of foie gras as liver. Think of it as ambrosia.

    Of course, I say that and will not touch any other type of organ meat
    :-)
    --------

    If that's truly the case - I *may* try it someday... I totally dispise
    other liver(s) but can tolerate liverwurst (braunsweiger - sp?).

    Cyndi

  15. On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 23:46:00 -0400, Dave Smith <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    I have heard that prices were considerably higher after switching to the Euro, apparently
    the vendors looking for those magic figures that make their prices appealing or
    unappealing. The last time I was in Paris we found a place 3-4 blocks north of Champs
    Elysee where we got a fantastic 3 course menu for 140FF each, which would have been
    about $25US at the time, and you wouldn't get a meal like that in a restaurant like that
    around here for that price. In Reims the 3 course meals were around 110FF, but the best
    prices we found were in Verdun, where the best menu deal was 90 FF. We were stuffed by
    the time we finished out appetizers. My wife's shrimp and avocado had more shrimp on top
    as garnish that we would get here for a serving. I made it about half way through my huge
    steak.

    One real find was at a little town a few miles north of Verdun where we had a fantastic
    lunch, a carrot salad, a pasta dish, baguettes heated by an open fire, flan for dessert,
    carafe of wine and coffee for 55 FF.

    We heard the same complaints re: rising prices from other tourists in
    France. Our restaurant meals in Paris averaged at least $65 USD for two
    people with wine (and nothing expensive, either). Cheaper for cafes and
    picnics, of course. We ate breakfasts in the apartment, which helped.
    Neither of us are big breakfast eaters anyway, and usually don't drink coffee.

    Quoted message said:

    There are definite advantages to using a car. You can get into smaller towns. Rail was a
    terrific way to tour Europe the first time because their rails system is so good. You can
    go from anywhere to anywhere, perhaps needing an occasional taxi/ Train stations are
    usually close to nice and reasonably priced hotels. On the second trip I was part of a
    party of five, one who wanted every minute of the trip planned out ahead of time. I won't
    bother with the details, but just say that was the last group trip I will ever go on.

    LOL... I did plan out most things and had our hotel reservations,
    car rental and train tickets set. Everything else was left open according to
    what we felt like doing that day.

    Quoted message said:

    On the last trip we had some things we had to do in Denmark, a place to see in Germany,
    find the house where my wife's grandfather was born in Holland, visit a friend in
    Holland. Then we had time to wander aimlessly. That was the best one of all. We ended up
    following the battle lines of WW I, seeing some of the battlefields and visiting a number
    of war cemeteries. The best one was the American war cemetery in the Argonne where my
    father in law had seen action with the US army in WW I. That cemetery was beautiful.

    I regret we didn't get to stop there. it took us unusually long to
    get from Honfleur to Mont St-Michel, and we did a lot of wandering around on a
    lot of (admittedly pretty) back roads. Maybe next time...

    Ariane

  16. "Rick & Cyndi" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Foie gras is nothing like liver. For one thing, the fat content
    changes the texture immensely and cognac and truffles add to the
    taste.

    If that's truly the case - I *may* try it someday... I totally
    dispise other liver(s) but can tolerate liverwurst (braunsweiger -
    sp?).

    If you can tolerate liverwurst, you should do fine with foie gras, at
    least to taste it. And get good foie gras, not pretend pork liver
    stuff they sometimes sell in tins.

    --

    "Compassion is the chief law of human existence."

    Dostoevski, The Idiot

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