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  1. Mxsmanic said:
    David Rind said:

    Are you actually suggesting that you think people with
    fibromyalgia are faking having pain, or was this just a
    rhetorical point?

    I'm saying that in cases such as fibromyalgia, where the
    only symptoms are subjective complaints made by the
    patient, it's impossible to know whether there is any real
    pain or not. And a lot of people _will_ fake it,
    especially in exchange for attention and/or prescription
    narcotics or other drugs.

    How is that different from any other pain? For instance, how
    do you know that someone who says they have a headache
    actually has one? Again, someone certainly could fake having
    pain to get drugs, but do you actually believe that that is
    what is going on in people with fibromyalgia -- that they
    are pretending to have pain in order to get medication?

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    David Rind [email hidden]

  2. Quoted message said:

    Mental illness is generally an identifiable pathology.

    No mental illness is as unambiguously clear to diagnose as
    physical illness.

    Quoted message said:

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    It has objectively measurable physical effects.

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  3. David Rind said:

    How is that different from any other pain?

    It's not.

    Quoted message said:

    For instance, how do you know that someone who says they
    have a headache actually has one?

    You don't.

    Quoted message said:

    Again, someone certainly could fake having pain to get
    drugs, but do you actually believe that that is what is
    going on in people with fibromyalgia -- that they are
    pretending to have pain in order to get medication?

    In a great many cases, yes. Fibromyalgia is a disease of
    choice for this type of malingering because no doctor can
    prove that you don't have
    it.

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  4. Mxsmanic said:

    In a great many cases, yes. Fibromyalgia is a disease of
    choice for this type of malingering because no doctor can
    prove that you don't have
    it.

    Ah. I had thought you were attempting to make some
    reasonable points about the non-specificity of fibromyalgia
    as a diagnosis, but if you really think that many people
    diagnosed with fibromyalgia are malingering and drug
    seeking, I think you are way off base.

    --
    David Rind [email hidden]

  5. David:

    I have stopped replying or reading any of his posts. Here
    and in other ng's he just likes to play the devil's
    advocate, but it's more like devil's a****le.

    "David Rind" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Mxsmanic said:

    In a great many cases, yes. Fibromyalgia is a disease of
    choice for this type of malingering because no doctor
    can prove that you don't have
    it.

    Ah. I had thought you were attempting to make some
    reasonable points about the non-specificity of
    fibromyalgia as a diagnosis, but if you really think that
    many people diagnosed with fibromyalgia are malingering
    and drug seeking, I think you are way off base.

    --
    David Rind [email hidden]

  6. David Rind said:

    Ah. I had thought you were attempting to make some
    reasonable points about the non-specificity of
    fibromyalgia as a diagnosis, but if you really think that
    many people diagnosed with fibromyalgia are malingering
    and drug seeking, I think you are way off base.

    You have it backwards. Not all people with FM are
    malingering, but many malingering people claim to have FM.
    So you see many people with "fibromyalgia" who in fact are
    just looking for attention and/or prescription meds.

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