Estimating TSS for a weights session

[jamesbailey49]

Thanks for the info on hrTSS kopride, also think I will post a thread on google.
Yes I guess if you’re looking at marathon running or tour cycling, especially as a climber, then resistance training will have limited benefit and big stressful lifts are probably not on the menu but that is one end of the spectrum, rowing might be at the other, it does allow for bigger stronger athletes due to the water element as you’ve mentioned but even for the standard 2km, 6min race, the training is largely high volume steady state aerobic and threshold work with higher speed work portions in the competition phase.
This topic seems to have kicked off more discussion around why or should endurance athletes participate in resistance training at all.. Rather than the gap I believe exists around stress score for resistance training, given all these fancy training packages that are now on the market.

Anyway thanks for your comments – James

 

[Felt_Rider]

Quote: This topic seems to have kicked off more discussion around why or should endurance athletes participate in resistance training at all.. Rather than the gap I believe exists around stress score for resistance training, given all these fancy training packages that are now on the market.

So far looking around it appears that logging resistance training or other training without a meter to measure effort is done on RPE. So if one has a good feel for RPE for an athlete than one could enter a perceived effort into a program like WKO, but I have coached a lot of people in the past and it is difficult for me to tell by my observation if they are really pushing a certain intensity or have become good at acting as if they are pushing a certain intensity. Unfortunately I have come across a few that put on a really good show in training, but I had doubt they were pushing to the best of their ability. Generally speaking I can tell if someone is putting forth the effort, but I'm just saying a few were really good actors. Nice thing about a power meter is that it cuts through the acting and tells the truth as long as it is calibrated and consistent.

As an individual and being honest with myself I have a feel based on RPE and could may be manually log into WKO a certain IF, which was what I used to do before I bought a power meter. For about a year I purchased a copy of WKO and would enter my IF based on perceived effort. (As personal preference I do not plan to enter my resistance training and mix it into my cycling training when viewing the PMC within WKO)

Here is a study or two done on this subject
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15142026

https://secure.ausport.gov.au/sports_coach/development_and_maturation2/monitoring_training_load

I trained back this morning and if I were to judge my effort for the various types of pulls using machines and free weights I would guess my IF to be at 0.8 based on perceived intensity and duration.

In my brief search for quantifying resistance training in the studies it appeared that the only method listed was RPE.

 

[Felt_Rider]

Originally Posted by jamesbailey49
Thanks, yes I think I will post on a google group as you’ve mentioned.

If you want to pursue this you can use the following search phrase "weight lifting and tss" in the Google Group - Wattage. You have to sign up and I think wait to be accepted into the group if you are not already a member.

Being a lurker over there it is my suggestion that you do the search first and read up before posting your own question in a new thread. Otherwise you will likely get this response.

"This has been discussed many times. Did you use search first?" I've seen that response so many times and why I just lurk instead of posting.

I did a search this morning and found quite a few threads with this topic.