donating blood?

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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:10:19 +0200, "Bjørn B. Larsen"
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>"formerly known as daveosaurus" <[email hidden]>
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>> Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?
>
>No.

I suspect that it depends where you are. When I
enquired as a diabetic

I

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was told "possibly", when I added leukemia they sounded
decidedly uninterested.

If you were the parent of a child in an operating
theatre, would you want the blood of a diabetic
supplied if you had a choice?

What if you DIDN'T have a choice Al? I can't imagine
anyone "catching" diabetes from a transfusion.

Beav

Hi Beav, poorboy, Priscilla, Charly.

Sorry, I didn't express myself properly. You are all quite
correct.

I should have made it clear that I was quoting a comment
made to me by a nurse.

I stopped listening to nurses a long time ago Al :-))

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However, what she was talking about was emotional, not
logical. Neither of those diseases is contagious, via the
blood or any other means that I am aware of. And of
course, if there was no alternative the patient will
accept what's available. The problem with the blood banks
is the mistakes and litigation in recent years, from AIDS
and hep C, and a need to reassure the public that their
product is safe to use.

It's probably got something to do with "needles". The
thought that someone who uses needles could be "clean" is
becoming harder to see, but of course, LOTS of peeps use
needles for legitimate reasons who ARE "clean". Nursey was
probably thinking with something other than her brain.

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Therefore, while there are adequate supplies some of them
(at least my local) are selective even if we know they are
incorrect.

Apologies for the lack of clarity.

Non needed from where I'm sitting Al.

Beav

Charly Coughran said:

If the nurse was suggesting that discriminating against
diabetics as blood donors is acceptable because potential
recipients are misinformed, I am sorry for the state of
affairs in Australian blood banks. Otherwise, it seems a
pretty nifty country.

Sorry Charly, I shouldn't have started this one :-)

If you don't judge our system on my hearsay of one nurse's
opinion - I won't comment on systems on the other side of
the Pacific.

I'm now trying to slink away unobtrusively...

Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and
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The rationale for excluding diabetics as donors, at least
in the US, was for the protection of the donor not the
recipient. The argument ran that diabetics were prone to
dehydration when not in good control and donating blood
could exacerbate the dehydration to a dangerous degree.
This started long before the present era of home blood
glucose monitoring and control was hard to monitor. The
elimination of the blanket exclusion by the Red Cross was
in large part a recognition of the improvements in diabetes
management in the last 15 years. It was also, in part, a
recognition of the shrinking donor pool as more and more
exclusionary conditions were added to the list. They
decided to get rid of one of the exclusions that had become
clearly silly.

The proper way to reassure the public about the safety of
the donor pool is to explain that we have hundreds of years
of experience that shows diabetes cannot be passed through
the blood. If the nurse was suggesting that discriminating
against diabetics as blood donors is acceptable because
potential recipients are misinformed, I am sorry for the
state of affairs in Australian blood banks. Otherwise, it
seems a pretty nifty country.

Alan didn't mean that Australian Blood Banks wouldn't accept
blood from a Diabetic, it was just a comment regarding
uneducated choices. I have to donate twice a week at the
moment (treatment for high iron levels, believed caused by
high anti-oxidant intake) and they are aware of my diabetic
status. It made no difference to them at all.

Regards

David

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Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?

No.

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Charly Coughran said:

The rationale for excluding diabetics as donors, at least
in the US, was for the protection of the donor not the
recipient. The argument ran that diabetics were prone to
dehydration when not in good control and donating blood
could exacerbate the dehydration to a dangerous degree.
This started long before the present era of home blood
glucose monitoring and control was hard to monitor. The
elimination of the blanket exclusion by the Red Cross was
in large part a recognition of the improvements in
diabetes management in the last 15 years. It was also, in
part, a recognition of the shrinking donor pool as more
and more exclusionary conditions were added to the list.
They decided to get rid of one of the exclusions that had
become clearly silly.

The proper way to reassure the public about the safety of
the donor pool is to explain that we have hundreds of
years of experience that shows diabetes cannot be passed
through the blood. If the nurse was suggesting that
discriminating against diabetics as blood donors is
acceptable because potential recipients are misinformed,
I am sorry for the state of affairs in Australian blood
banks. Otherwise, it seems a pretty nifty country.

Alan didn't mean that Australian Blood Banks wouldn't
accept blood from a Diabetic, it was just a comment
regarding uneducated choices. I have to donate twice a
week at the moment (treatment for high iron levels,
believed caused by high anti-oxidant intake) and they are
aware of my diabetic status. It made no difference to
them at all.

Twice a WEEK?? How much d'you donate each time David? I hope
it's not much more than a couple of thimbles full.

Beav

Alan <[email hidden]> wrote on Fri,
11 Jun 2004
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 23:26:00 +0000 (UTC), Charly Coughran
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If you don't judge our system on my hearsay of one nurse's
opinion - I won't comment on systems on the other side of
the Pacific.

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I'm now trying to slink away unobtrusively...

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