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"formerly known as daveosaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?
No.
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[email hidden] (formerly known as daveosaurus) wrote in news:8021-
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Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?
All blood bank organizations have their own guidelines so
the answer for a particular blood bank can only be answered
with a call to that blood bank. The American Red Cross
guidelines are widely adopted, sometimes with modification,
by local unaffiliated blood banks. They are about as close
to a standard as you can find. For many years the Red Cross
guidelines had a blanket exclusion for insulin taking
diabetics. Those on oral medications or life style
modification were taken on a case by case basis. Order 6
years back, they revised the guidelines to accept any
diabetic in good control. Good control is usually determined
by asking, "Are you in good control?" If you say no, you are
excluded. About a year later, my local blood bank adopted
the same policy. I believe diabetics are still categorically
excluded from blood marrow donations.--
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Charly Coughran [email hidden] -
formerly known as daveosaurus <[email hidden]> quoth:
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Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?
Sure, if you're not using insulin or taking any meds which
would contraindicate donation.Priscilla
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formerly known as daveosaurus wrote in message <8021-40C80BD3-111@storefull-
3211.bay.webtv.net>... Can diabetics donate blood or
blood plasma?Depends on the rules of your local blood bank.
When I was on oral meds, my local blood bank was quite
happy to take my blood.When I switched to insulin, they stopped taking it.
However, AFAIK, blood banks affiliated with the American
Red Cross are still quite happy to take it. I haven't
gotten around to driving the 40 miles to find out.Regards Old Al (at 6 gallons and holding)
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:20:51 -0500, [email hidden] (formerly known
as daveosaurus) said:
Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?
It varies from country to country. In the USA, insulin
users generall can if there is nothing wrong otherwise, OHA
users cannot.In other countreis, the answer is NO, period.
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 02:20:51 -0500, [email hidden] (formerly known
as daveosaurus) said:
Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?
IIRC, at one time the answer was "no" but these days the
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The 1st tip off I ever had that it might be true that I was
a diabetic, was trying to donate and getting rejected, based
on a urine sample, tested with those little sticks, that I
can't rememeber what thy are called ... and I went
completely off the scale into the black. That was when I had
just moved to Vegas. I guess it is different here. When I
lived in Nashville, Tennessee, I donated twice a week, blood
plamsa, for quite a few years. I was on a special program,
and it was a research thing, I don't remember what for, may
have been for interferon. I was paid very nicely for my
time. It was a long time ago. As I remember, I tried getting
into another program but was rejected and no oneever said
why. Rainbow -
Bjørn B. Larsen said:
"formerly known as daveosaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote
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3211.bay.webtv.net...Quoted message said:
Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?
No.
I suspect that it depends where you are. When I enquired as
a diabetic I was told "possibly", when I added leukemia they
sounded decidedly uninterested.If you were the parent of a child in an operating
theatre, would you want the blood of a diabetic supplied
if you had a choice?Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and
carbs to email.
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"Bjørn B. Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote: \> >
Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?Quoted message said:
No.
Actually, the answer is "it varies". Some blood banks will
allow diabetics who can demonstrate good control to donate.
They can use all the donations they can get. Call and ask.--Greg
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I am in the U.S. and was Dx'd T2 in Aug '03 and have donated
4 times since.The donating center is aware of my T2 status and the
meds(Metformin and Actos) I am on.Scott
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Bjørn B. Larsen said:
"formerly known as daveosaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote
in message news:8021-40C80BD3-111@storefull-
3211.bay.webtv.net...Quoted message said:
Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?
No.
I suspect that it depends where you are. When I enquired
as a diabetic I was told "possibly", when I added leukemia
they sounded decidedly uninterested.If you were the parent of a child in an operating theatre,
would you want the blood of a diabetic supplied if you had
a choice?Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs
to email. -
"Alan" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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If you were the parent of a child in an operating theatre,
would you want the blood of a diabetic supplied if you had
a choice?isn't your statement a little too broad ? i didn't realize
that diabetes was infectious ...US
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Have not had an initial dosage of insulin or change of
insulin dose in at least two weeks. Have not received an
injection of bovine (beef) insulin made from cattle from the
United Kingdom since 1980.UK
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If your diabetes is treated by diet and lifestyle changes
alone, then you will be able to donate blood in the UK,
providing you do not have any other medical condition (eg
heart disease) that might prevent your giving blood. If you
do have another medical condition besides diabetes, then a
doctor will assess your individual case at the donor
session. If your diabetes is treated with tablets or
insulin, then you will not be able to give blood. This
restriction is because the National Blood Service is
concerned about the health of the blood donors, and arises
from fears that giving blood may affect a person's blood
glucose control, or aggravate any undiagnosed diabetes
related conditions such as neuropathy or heart disease.
couldn't find the details for australia - but i am sure you
get my point--
poorboy
age 38 t2 diagnosed 4/2003
D & E w/ 7.5 mg actos--
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Alan <[email hidden]> quoth:
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 10:10:19 +0200, "Bj=F8rn B. Larsen"
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"formerly known as daveosaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote
in message news:8021-40C80BD3-111@storefull-
3211.bay.webtv.net...Quoted message said:
Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?
Quoted message said:
If you were the parent of a child in an operating theatre,
would you want the blood of a diabetic supplied if you had
a choice?What the hell difference would it make?
Priscilla --=20 "Come to Planet Earth! Watch people with
brains not use them! Several=20 shows daily! Free
admittance!" Keera Ann Fox in alt.support.menopause -
Alan <[email hidden]> wrote in
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If you were the parent of a child in an operating theatre,
would you want the blood of a diabetic supplied if you had
a choice?Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs
to email.There are no characteristics in the blood of a diabetic that
would make any difference to the blood recipient. None of
the glucose regulatory medications are disqualifies. If a
diabetic was taking a medication that is on the proscribed
list, they would be disqualified for that reason in the same
way as anyone else. There might be a blood glucose level out
of the normal range, but when diluted by the patients
existing blood the patients pancreas can deal with that with
no problem.* Remember standard operating room procedure is
to hang a glucose IV on the way in.*Extra credit: Calculate the bg rise in a child who has
a bg of 100
mg/dl who receives a unit of blood from a diabetic with
a bg of 200
mg/i. My answer is below my sig.--
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Charly Coughran [email hidden]Assuming a 80 lb. child who has lost an entire unit of
blood, that gives
1.9 l of blood at 100 mg/dl remaining in the child for a
total of 1.9 g of glucose. Adding 1 unit of 200 mg/dl
blood adds 1 g of glucose and raises the blood volume
to the normal 2.4 units. This gives a final bg level of
121 mg/dl. -
"Alan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Bjørn B. Larsen said:
"formerly known as daveosaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote
in message news:8021-40C80BD3-111@storefull-
3211.bay.webtv.net...Quoted message said:
Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?
No.
I suspect that it depends where you are. When I enquired
as a diabetic I was told "possibly", when I added leukemia
they sounded decidedly uninterested.If you were the parent of a child in an operating theatre,
would you want the blood of a diabetic supplied if you had
a choice?What if you DIDN'T have a choice Al? I can't imagine anyone
"catching" diabetes from a transfusion.Beav
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Alan said:
Bjørn B. Larsen said:
"formerly known as daveosaurus" <[email hidden]> wrote
in message news:8021-40C80BD3-111@storefull-
3211.bay.webtv.net...Quoted message said:
Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?
No.
I suspect that it depends where you are. When I enquired
as a diabetic I was told "possibly", when I added leukemia
they sounded decidedly uninterested.If you were the parent of a child in an operating theatre,
would you want the blood of a diabetic supplied if you had
a choice?There's a lot of things that can be taken from a blood
donation. Besides, DM is NOT contageous. I can't give blood
in NA because I spent 6 months in the UK in 1998...go
figure....still scared of Mad Cow.... -
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Bjørn B. Larsen said:
"formerly known as daveosaurus" <[email hidden]>
wrote in message news:8021-40C80BD3-111@storefull-
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> Can diabetics donate blood or blood plasma?No.
I suspect that it depends where you are. When I enquired
as a diabetic I was told "possibly", when I added
leukemia they sounded decidedly uninterested.If you were the parent of a child in an operating
theatre, would you want the blood of a diabetic supplied
if you had a choice?What if you DIDN'T have a choice Al? I can't imagine anyone
"catching" diabetes from a transfusion.Beav
Hi Beav, poorboy, Priscilla, Charly.
Sorry, I didn't express myself properly. You are all
quite correct.I should have made it clear that I was quoting a comment
made to me by a nurse.However, what she was talking about was emotional, not
logical. Neither of those diseases is contagious, via the
blood or any other means that I am aware of. And of
course, if there was no alternative the patient will
accept what's available. The problem with the blood banks
is the mistakes and litigation in recent years, from AIDS
and hep C, and a need to reassure the public that their
product is safe to use.Therefore, while there are adequate supplies some of them
(at least my local) are selective even if we know they are
incorrect.Apologies for the lack of clarity.
Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and
carbs to email.
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Alan <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Hi Beav, poorboy, Priscilla, Charly.
Sorry, I didn't express myself properly. You are all quite
correct.I should have made it clear that I was quoting a comment
made to me by a nurse.However, what she was talking about was emotional, not
logical. Neither of those diseases is contagious, via the
blood or any other means that I am aware of. And of
course, if there was no alternative the patient will
accept what's available. The problem with the blood banks
is the mistakes and litigation in recent years, from AIDS
and hep C, and a need to reassure the public that their
product is safe to use.Therefore, while there are adequate supplies some of them
(at least my local) are selective even if we know they are
incorrect.Apologies for the lack of clarity.
Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia. Remove weight and carbs
to email.The rationale for excluding diabetics as donors, at least in
the US, was for the protection of the donor not the
recipient. The argument ran that diabetics were prone to
dehydration when not in good control and donating blood
could exacerbate the dehydration to a dangerous degree. This
started long before the present era of home blood glucose
monitoring and control was hard to monitor. The elimination
of the blanket exclusion by the Red Cross was in large part
a recognition of the improvements in diabetes management in
the last 15 years. It was also, in part, a recognition of
the shrinking donor pool as more and more exclusionary
conditions were added to the list. They decided to get rid
of one of the exclusions that had become clearly silly.The proper way to reassure the public about the safety of
the donor pool is to explain that we have hundreds of years
of experience that shows diabetes cannot be passed through
the blood. If the nurse was suggesting that discriminating
against diabetics as blood donors is acceptable because
potential recipients are misinformed, I am sorry for the
state of affairs in Australian blood banks. Otherwise, it
seems a pretty nifty country.--
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Charly Coughran [email hidden]
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