Dogs

Zoot Katz said:

Ammonia is used at dog shows for breaking up fights. Towels are soaked in concentrated ammonia and
thrown over the dogs heads.

Household ammonia in plastic containers has been used as a bear repellent in Alaskan dumpsters for
quite a while. Bear bites the container, gets a snort of ammonia, drops it, and *never* returns to
that garbage source (and perhaps all human garbage).

Zoot Katz said:

If your're going to squirt the dog with anything use tobasco or lemon juice or vinegar or soy
sauce. Might as well start marinating him

Do you have a good recipe for dog ceviche?

Elisa Roselli Ile de France

Mike from said:

Well I agree that it would have more affect to spray the ammonia in the Dog's Owner's eyes
instead, but because the riders life could have been in danger, there wasn't a whole lot of choice
in the matter.

Ah, the pre-emptive strike doctrine. Thank you President Bush! Every time a car passes nears a
bicycle, the rider's life _could_ be in danger. Should the cyclist shoot the car's wheels out?

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Every time a car passes nears a bicycle, the rider's life _could_ be in danger. Should the cyclist
shoot the car's wheels out?

No, between the eyes
:^)

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Mike from said:

Well I agree that it would have more affect to spray the ammonia in the

Dog's Owner's eyes instead,

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but because the riders life could have been in danger, there wasn't a

whole lot of choice in the

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matter.

Ah, the pre-emptive strike doctrine. Thank you President Bush! Every time

a car

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passes nears a bicycle, the rider's life _could_ be in danger. Should the cyclist shoot the car's
wheels out?

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4:39:27 PM 20 July 2003

Every time a car head straight at a person on a bike and starts hitting the biker then yes. Did you
miss the part where he said the dog was attacking his bike? COuld have made him fall and crack his
head open or who knows what...

Kevan Smith /\/\ said:

Mike from said:

Well I agree that it would have more affect to spray the ammonia in the Dog's Owner's eyes
instead, but because the riders life could have been in danger, there wasn't a whole lot of choice
in the matter.

Ah, the pre-emptive strike doctrine. Thank you President Bush! Every time a car passes nears a
bicycle, the rider's life _could_ be in danger. Should the cyclist shoot the car's wheels out?

There's always the commercial sprays that mail delivery people use to ward off dogs. It sends an
effective message without hurting the animal; I'd rather see that than using ammonia. You don't want
to hurt the dog, but just spraying water isn't going to accomplish anything either.

I've used the anti-dog sprays before with very good results, i.e. the dog stops chasing me. Marianne

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Well I agree that it would have more affect to spray the ammonia in the

Dog's Owner's eyes instead,

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but because the riders life could have been in danger, there wasn't a

whole lot of choice in the

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matter.

There are some bad Dogs in the world but there's a hell of a lot more bad

Owners...

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:22:52 -0500, Kevan Smith

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:50:46 GMT, Michael <[email hidden]> from AT&T

Worldnet

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In that case, the a reagent (squeeze-squirt) bottle filled with ammonia that I carry came in
handy: one good, hard shot straight into that dog's eyes stopped it cold.

You should be reported for cruelty to animals. What if you had blinded

the dog

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for life? A squirt bottle of water does the same thing just fine without

the

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cruelty.

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:51:54 -0600, "Harpie" <[email hidden]> from University of Colorado at

Denver said:

You don't want to hurt the dog, but just spraying water isn't going to accomplish anything either.

That's not true. I've seen over and over how just a squirt of plain water at a dog's muzzle sends it
running away.

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Unless the dog is thirsty... Which he might be if he just ate a chunk off your leg.

Kevan Smith /\/\ said:

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:51:54 -0600, "Harpie" <[email hidden]> from University of Colorado at

Denver said:

You don't want to hurt the dog, but just spraying water isn't going to accomplish anything either.

That's not true. I've seen over and over how just a squirt of plain water at a dog's muzzle sends
it running away.

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That's not true. I've seen over and over how just a squirt of plain water at a dog's muzzle sends
it running away.

My gf's ankle biters aren't very bothered by a sharp squirt of water -- though it can sometimes get
their attention while they're barking endlessly, it never stops them from doing anything; they even
resume barking if you don't, for example, shoot them with a 12 gauge shotgun.

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Rick Onanian

Harpie said:

There's always the commercial sprays that mail delivery people use to ward off dogs. It sends an
effective message without hurting the animal; I'd rather see that than using ammonia. You don't
want to hurt the dog, but just spraying water isn't going to accomplish anything either.

I've used the anti-dog sprays before with very good results, i.e. the dog stops chasing me.
Marianne

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Quoted message said:

Well I agree that it would have more affect to spray the ammonia in the

Dog's Owner's eyes instead,

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but because the riders life could have been in danger, there wasn't a

whole lot of choice in the

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matter.

There are some bad Dogs in the world but there's a hell of a lot more bad

Owners...

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:22:52 -0500, Kevan Smith

/\/\ said:

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:50:46 GMT, Michael <[email hidden]> from AT&T

Worldnet

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wrote:

>In that case, the a reagent (squeeze-squirt) bottle filled with ammonia that I carry came in
>handy: one good, hard shot straight into that dog's eyes stopped it cold.

You should be reported for cruelty to animals. What if you had blinded

the dog

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for life? A squirt bottle of water does the same thing just fine without

the

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cruelty.

amonia cut with h2o is still kinda nasty. I think profesional trainers use

vinegar+water. Was watching a nature show t'other day that talked bout grizzly bear spray.
supposed to be good 15-20 ft, don't know where to buy or how $ . wish I'd been more
help....charles

Mark Jones <[email hidden]> wrote:
: "Kevan Smith" <[email hidden]/\/\> wrote in message
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:> You exaggerate the threat of dogs to cyclists.
: It depends on the dog. When I was about 8 years old, I was chased by a larger than normal German
: Shepard. I rode as fast as I could and was barely able to prevent it from catching me. He didn't
: appear to be in a very good mood.

I was also eight when I was chased by a hungry german shepard. I rode as fast as I could but he
still took a chunk you of my left cheek. I still have the scar to this day, 42 years later.

Some dogs are just plain mean and nasty.

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