"Delicate" question

Hey genius, listen up: go without a shirt U dumbass!

Wear a sportsbra. Costanza & Kramer makes one for guys called the
mansierre. Woiks like a champ. Try Macy's to buy one.

TGRRABR

On 21 Aug 2004 14:31:23 GMT, [email hidden] (TheBillRodgerz)

Quoted message said:

Hey genius, listen up: go without a shirt U dumbass!

Kevin Carson said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me.

Ooo, this sounds promising. ;-)

Quoted message said:

I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years or
so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation.

Is that all? Heck, bleeding nipples are almost a badge of honour, not
something to be bashful about.

Quoted message said:

I have tried
Bandaids (they don't stay on very long if you're really sweating)
lubes and creams (they thin and run when you get hot) and different
kinds of shirts (then all seem to irritate when the get wet and
heavy). I do have reddish hair and very pale, wimpy skin that gets
hacked off easily. Anyone have a practical solution? Adhesive tape
would just irritate the h-ll out the skin.

*All* adhesive tape? There are a lot of different ones out there and it may
be that your skin will cope better with some. I use Micropore (made by3M)
which is supposedly hypoallergenic and certainly sticks well enough.

Other things to try if you haven't already. Don't wear cotton t-shirts,
thery seem to be much more abrasive than synthetics when wet. Another thing
that seems to help is tucking your shirt into your short. It seems to
reduce that amount of movement of your shirt over your nipples.

Okay, now tell us what you're *really* worried about. ;-)

HTH

Tim

--
Remove the obvious to reply by email.

Petroleum jelly works for many - cheap, soothing, and sticks to you
good!

Anita

On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 08:37:09 -0500, [email hidden] (Kevin Carson)

Quoted message said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me. I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years or
so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation. I have tried
Bandaids (they don't stay on very long if you're really sweating) lubes
and creams (they thin and run when you get hot) and different kinds of
shirts (then all seem to irritate when the get wet and heavy). I do have
reddish hair and very pale, wimpy skin that gets hacked off easily.
Anyone have a practical solution? Adhesive tape would just irritate the
h-ll out the skin. Have thought of this liquid bandage stuff but it's
got camphor and such in it, and I'm not sure how that would be for
applying in sensitive areas. All responses appreciated. If you've ever
bled after a long run, you'll know what I'm talking about. Thanks!

[email hidden] (Kevin Carson) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me. I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years or
so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation.

Kevin:

I know you said bandaids don't work for you, but you may want to check
into other brands or see if there's a specialty "works on wet areas"
bandaid. I'm fair skinned and redheaded, too, so I have the same
problems you do. One other thing that might help--wear a tighter
shirt (like skin tight, maybe)...the worst irritation I get is from
wearing loose shirts, because they move a lot.

Jim

I use the little "spot" bandaids that most drugstores out here have. I buy
100 at a time.

They're about 2cm (3/4"😉 diameter, and fit inside the pigmented area, out of
the dreaded hair zone. They last 3-4 days.

You'll get some funny looks if you're in the habit of taking your shirt off
in public, though...

-- Dan

"Kevin Carson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me. I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years or
so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation. I have tried
Bandaids (they don't stay on very long if you're really sweating) lubes
and creams (they thin and run when you get hot) and different kinds of
shirts (then all seem to irritate when the get wet and heavy). I do have
reddish hair and very pale, wimpy skin that gets hacked off easily.
Anyone have a practical solution? Adhesive tape would just irritate the
h-ll out the skin. Have thought of this liquid bandage stuff but it's
got camphor and such in it, and I'm not sure how that would be for
applying in sensitive areas. All responses appreciated. If you've ever
bled after a long run, you'll know what I'm talking about. Thanks!

Try Bodyglide. It's standard fare for triathletes. Designed specifically for
chafe prevention in sports.
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=bodyglide

"Kevin Carson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me. I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years or
so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation. I have tried
Bandaids (they don't stay on very long if you're really sweating) lubes
and creams (they thin and run when you get hot) and different kinds of
shirts (then all seem to irritate when the get wet and heavy). I do have
reddish hair and very pale, wimpy skin that gets hacked off easily.
Anyone have a practical solution? Adhesive tape would just irritate the
h-ll out the skin. Have thought of this liquid bandage stuff but it's
got camphor and such in it, and I'm not sure how that would be for
applying in sensitive areas. All responses appreciated. If you've ever
bled after a long run, you'll know what I'm talking about. Thanks!

(Kevin Carson) said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me. I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years or
so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation.

This question seems to come up every few months. My answer: 3M Transpore
Surgical Tape

http://tinyurl.com/2jp5h

It's strong enough to stay on for your longest runs, yet not so strong that
you can't get it off without screaming.

Phil M.

Kevin Carson said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me. I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years or
so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation. I have tried
Bandaids (they don't stay on very long if you're really sweating) lubes
and creams (they thin and run when you get hot) and different kinds of
shirts (then all seem to irritate when the get wet and heavy). I do have
reddish hair and very pale, wimpy skin that gets hacked off easily.
Anyone have a practical solution? Adhesive tape would just irritate the
h-ll out the skin. Have thought of this liquid bandage stuff but it's
got camphor and such in it, and I'm not sure how that would be for
applying in sensitive areas. All responses appreciated. If you've ever
bled after a long run, you'll know what I'm talking about. Thanks!

Duct Tape will definitely work. Use it all the time with surgical pad
or without. Cheap. Never used it for the nipples though.

You appreciate that nipples will callous like other parts of the body so
that nature will take care of itself if you let it.

Women run and usually have larger everything in that area and they never
complain of bleeding nipples largely as a result of lots of attention to
that area makes them resistant to chaffing.

Quoted message said:

They're about 2cm (3/4"😉 diameter, and fit inside the pigmented area, out of
the dreaded hair zone. They last 3-4 days.

Dan, those are called "pasties". The tassles on the end give you away.

Quoted message said:

You'll get some funny looks if you're in the habit of taking your shirt off
in public, though...

Are you used to undressing iin public? Between your pasties and that tiny
weiner, I'm amazed you are bold enough to get naked in public.

Quoted message said:

Women run and usually have larger everything in that area and they never
complain of bleeding nipples largely as a result of lots of attention to
that area makes them resistant to chaffing.

So if we stare at his [censored] for awhile, the chaffing will stop?

In article said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me. I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years or
so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation. I have tried
Bandaids (they don't stay on very long if you're really sweating) lubes
and creams (they thin and run when you get hot) and different kinds of
shirts (then all seem to irritate when the get wet and heavy). I do have
reddish hair and very pale, wimpy skin that gets hacked off easily.
Anyone have a practical solution? Adhesive tape would just irritate the
h-ll out the skin. Have thought of this liquid bandage stuff but it's
got camphor and such in it, and I'm not sure how that would be for
applying in sensitive areas. All responses appreciated. If you've ever
bled after a long run, you'll know what I'm talking about. Thanks!

Kevin from a Feb/`1997 post.

Ozzie

In article said:

I did a 2:45:00 LSD on Saturday, and as my wife came to pick me up by car
she begin to laugh at me as she saw me.

When I asked her what was so funny she pointed at my shirt, and there they
were: large bloody marks around my nipples on my wet t-shirt making me
look quite bizare.

No wonder people changed sides as I ran towards them :o)

A runner's high? - didn't feel a thing! Until shower that is :o(

Jarno

Quoted message said:

Vincent Woolf said:

First, I should thank the helpful posters here on rec.running. Though I
haven't posted questions before, I've found advice here that has helped me
fight off the evil shin splints (stretching, better shoes, and no more
runnning on concrete if I can help it) and that directed me to useful
marathon training information. Thank you.

But....with the Motorola Marathon (Austin, TX) less than 2 weeks away I
still haven't found a solution to one problem: What can I do to prevent
chafed nipples? I've tried various fabrics and tight/loose shirts but
have found that the only way I can run for more than an hour without
having my nipples rubbed raw is to run without a shirt. Though it's not
a debilitating injury, it's quite painful.

Pilor Erectia is the words I remember hearing or reading somewhere in my
running past. Some may call it goose bumps. When cold, the nipples get
erect, like a big goose bump. When people are going from dehydration into
heat exhaustion the same thing happens. You've probably seen some people
after a marathon, shivering uncontrollably. Well maybe not, but I've seen
it happen in all kinds of weather. It is especially true when the ambient
temperature is high 40's or low 50's and the skies are clear and
sunny...and the humidity is low.

What happens is the marathoner is being toasted by the radiant heat of the
sun, but the cold air and the quick evaporation of the sweat keeps the
runner feeling good because the core temperature doesn't rise as quickly
because of the rapid evaporation. Then when that person hits mile 16 or
18, the effects of dehydration seem like a lightening bolt out of the blue
(Chargers fan).

You will see these people in this kind of weather with the salty sweat
lines in their clothing and on their bodies...walking along the last 6 or
8 miles...not quite certain what happened when they were feeling so great
just 10 minutes ago.

In that stage of dehydration and bordering on heat exhaustion, the nipples
are more erect and more prone to be rubbed, especially if the material is a
50/50 nylon and cotton or a nylon singlet.

The other problem is that depending on your running style, as you tire you
may be lifting your shoulders as you breathe in and out. That up and down
of the shoulders along with the pilor erectia, the dehydration, the kind of
shirt/ singlet you're wearing all can add up to bloody nipples.

Also if your shoulder to elbow locks as you get tired, the elbows to
shoulders doesn't swing forward and back like counterbalancing
pendulums...meaning that you are abraiding your nipples as the shirt
scratches across them from side to side.

That is why along the last 6 miles of the San Diego Marathon, the Super
Four Support Team is quietly saying to runners and walkers, Relax your Jaw.
Relax your shoulders. First the tension is taking valuable energy away
from one's running.

And tied into all of this and compounded by all these little things is the
end result of nipples, bloody nipples...and sharp stabbing pains in the
area between the shoulders...and endorphins...and not even knowing the
nipples are bloody until someone says: "Ouuuu, Deedra, look at those
bloody nipples. It almost makes his shirt look like those bloody eyes from
Cats. I wonder if it hurts. Oh, number 2045 do you want some vasaline for
your bloody nipples."

"Huh, wha, what? What bloody nip...? Oh my god, I'm bleeding. I'm
bleeding and I didn't even feel them." Turning away so as not to be seen by
Deedra and her aid station friend Caroline, he slathers vasaline on his
nipples with the tongue depressor...nee popcicle stick.
Screaming..Ahhhhh.."God, I got a sliver in my bloody nipple." Caroline
crying out, "Ouuuu, let me help you, I have a safety pin to help get the
sliver out. Here let me clean it up with a little alcohol."
"AHHHHHHHHH." "Deedra, I've never seen a marathoner hobble on at such a
pace in my life. I feel like we've done so much good work to help people
today."

In health and on the run,
Ozzie Gontang
Maintainer - rec.running FAQ
Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975

Mindful Running: http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.asp
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/running-faq/

I'm anxiously awaiting the day when one of you mouth breathers comes in
here to post that you've had your nips surgically removed.

I use Body Glide on the nipples and other areas (some even more delicate!).
It has never failed me, even on a long run. As luck would have it, I forgot
to put it on yesterday before my 22 miler. At about mile 14 I was feeling
something uncomfortable. That was nothing to what I felt when I got in the
shower. They still hurt today.

I think I will never forget again.

Brian Jones
"Kevin Carson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me. I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years or
so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation. I have tried
Bandaids (they don't stay on very long if you're really sweating) lubes
and creams (they thin and run when you get hot) and different kinds of
shirts (then all seem to irritate when the get wet and heavy). I do have
reddish hair and very pale, wimpy skin that gets hacked off easily.
Anyone have a practical solution? Adhesive tape would just irritate the
h-ll out the skin. Have thought of this liquid bandage stuff but it's
got camphor and such in it, and I'm not sure how that would be for
applying in sensitive areas. All responses appreciated. If you've ever
bled after a long run, you'll know what I'm talking about. Thanks!

"Phil M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

(Kevin Carson) said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me. I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years or
so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation.

This question seems to come up every few months. My answer: 3M Transpore
Surgical Tape

http://tinyurl.com/2jp5h

It's strong enough to stay on for your longest runs, yet not so strong that
you can't get it off without screaming.

Phil M.

He could use duct tape or any number of other untried adhesives. But
see he's precluded anything that might work. He's tried "everything".
If a tape works it will irritate his skin when he removes it. People
who whine about stuff like this can never achieve the comfort level
they seek while running. And he's been running for 25 years with the
problem!
This may not be very tasteful, but another real life question is
whether the poster suffers from gynecomastia for which there is a
surgical cure.

(eddy eagle) said:

"Phil M." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

(Kevin Carson) said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me. I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years
or so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation.

This question seems to come up every few months. My answer: 3M
Transpore Surgical Tape

http://tinyurl.com/2jp5h

It's strong enough to stay on for your longest runs, yet not so
strong that you can't get it off without screaming.

Phil M.

He could use duct tape or any number of other untried adhesives. But
see he's precluded anything that might work. He's tried "everything".

He didn't say he's tried everything. He said -

Quoted message said:

Bandaids (they don't stay on very long if you're really sweating)
lubes and creams (they thin and run when you get hot) and different
kinds of shirts (then all seem to irritate when the get wet and
heavy).

Quoted message said:

If a tape works it will irritate his skin when he removes it.

I know. I've tried all the normal stuff that you'll find at your local
drug/grocery store. The 3M Transpore surgical tape is the only one that
stays on well enough without causing removal pain. I work in a hospital
so I can get tons of this stuff. I suggest that if it is still painfull,
then try removing after soaking in a hot shower.

Phil M.

Quoted message said:

I use Body Glide on the nipples and other areas (some even more delicate!).

ie. [censored] chute

Quoted message said:

At about mile 14 I was feeling
something uncomfortable.

You left that bar of body glide in your [censored].

Quoted message said:

That was nothing to what I felt when I got in the
shower.

Tuggin' "the weeone" in the shower again?

Quoted message said:

They still hurt today.

If you have two of them, you should be making porno flix.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm anxiously awaiting the day when one of you mouth breathers comes in

here to post that you've had your nips surgically removed. <<

I never thought of that! Check back in a week!

Mike

A little hard to get off afterwards but mole skin works

"Kevin Carson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

This may not be very tasteful, but it's a real life question and an
ongoing problem for me. I am 48 y/o, have been running for 25 years or
so, and continue to have problems with nipple irritation. I have tried
Bandaids (they don't stay on very long if you're really sweating) lubes
and creams (they thin and run when you get hot) and different kinds of
shirts (then all seem to irritate when the get wet and heavy). I do have
reddish hair and very pale, wimpy skin that gets hacked off easily.
Anyone have a practical solution? Adhesive tape would just irritate the
h-ll out the skin. Have thought of this liquid bandage stuff but it's
got camphor and such in it, and I'm not sure how that would be for
applying in sensitive areas. All responses appreciated. If you've ever
bled after a long run, you'll know what I'm talking about. Thanks!