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  1. I don't think I've ever seen someone spin that fast. GJ Kaori.

    I was in awe for the entire movie.

    Very nice work Dan et. al.

    -Walt

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  2. Well worth the wait!!! I got home and was sitting around for about 2
    hours until my mum was like "hey, by the way, you got something in the
    post today..." well, after that I was just stuck in my room watching
    defect and then riding and watching defect and riding... only wish it
    had come out after exams :p hope I can still pass!! :p

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  3. unicyclistjoe said:

    Did anyone else find "Sac John" a total pain in the ass after about the
    4th or 5th time?

    Hells no... I want a "Sac John" t-shirt, complete with the band-aid
    hanging off his forehead... and a caption balloon with one of his crazy
    sayings. I WANT ONE! Wait... this should go in a t-shirt thread.
    Bye!

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  4. Yahoo, it's here.
    I'm going to watch it in about 5 mins.
    Cool t-shirt.

    Cathy

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  5. forget the movie- i want the defect shirt...

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  6. _*****_WARNING:_SPOILER_ALERT_******_

    Do not read any further if you have not yet seen Defect and wish to
    keep it a surprise.

    Rather than posting a simple "It's awesome" message (although it is
    awesome) I thought I'd try and post some constructive thoughts after my
    initial viewing. My DVD finally arrived yesterday and I only had time
    to watch it once last night. I'm sure many more viewings will follow
    after which my thoughts and impressions will change. Maybe I'll post
    an update then.

    I was impressed even before putting DVD in the player, the cover
    artwork and design is very well done and matches the feel of the movie
    perfectly. I use the word 'feel' for lack of a better term. The movie
    definitely has a personality.

    The comparison with U2 is inevitable so let's get that out of the way.
    Just based on my 1 viewing I would say hands down Defect is the most
    technical and skill-wise the most impressive of the two. However, (and
    I expect this is by design) it lacks the variety of riding types and
    instead focuses more on a variety of riding styles. There is much more
    of a personality and more of a connection with the riders who all throw
    down fantastic moves. As a unicycling enthusiast this is great but for
    a non-rider (eg. if you want to show something to a friend to break the
    circus stereotype) I think U2 might be more entertaining. (eg. My wife
    is more impressed with someone riding down a flight of stairs vs
    someone doing a crank flip, and likes to see the switch between muni,
    street, freestyle and their different environments (Defect is mostly
    urban) ). If you read this forum (unlike my wife 🙂 ), you will
    appreciate and I would definitely recommend Defect.

    The things that stick in my head that I loved:
    - Mike's rail.
    - Jagur.
    - Kevin's bails.
    - Justin's massive shifty.
    - I can't put my finger on why but I really enjoyed Brian and Keatons
    parts.
    - Kris's rail/post ride.
    - The commentaries. (These might have been my favorite part)
    - Jeffs BC action (would have floored me if I hadn't seen some recent
    online videos)
    - Dan's flatland tricks (I'm going to have to go back and watch them in
    slow motion)
    - Jess's BC wheel bit.
    - Joey's tall pole-pole (phone booths?).
    - I remember going 'oh yeah!' to lots of other bits but now that I'm
    typing I can't remember what bits they were =)

    It's hard, but to give proper feedback you have to have some negatives
    (and I'm stretching here):
    - It would have been nice if you could play all the commentaries at
    once rather than having to navigate to each one.
    - This was probably a stylistic choice and dictated by the type of
    riding but I enjoyed the variation in scenery that U2 has vs the mostly
    urban Defect.
    - A bit too much "Sac John" for my liking.
    - I'm running dry on negatives here... maybe a few more bails?

    After typing that out, now I can't wait to watch it again.

    A HUGE thanks to Dan, the riders and everyone else who worked on the
    project. It's a thing of beauty.

    Cheers,
    - James

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  7. I liked the girlie's spinning.
    Definately something to aim for (in about 100 years!)

    Cathy

    Ofcourse, the rest was fab too.

    (Loose, have you got yours yet?)

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  8. fexnix said:

    can´t you guys tell me whats in Defect?

    Lots of people riding unicycles.

    Quoted message said:

    what is Sac John?

    A street person who is most likely alcoholic, possibly a drug user, and
    might be mentally ill, offering commentary as the boys ride on K Street
    in downtown Sacramento. I got married within a block or two of where
    those scenes were filmed:
    http://www.unicycling.com/wedding/thecrest.htm

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  9. cathwood said:

    (Loose, have you got yours yet?)

    No, but I only ordered it after I saw u mention that u'd ordered from
    syko with cheapo shipping. I thought it'd be extortionate but it was
    good for $9, 2 dvds & a t-shirt. I'm expecting it tomorrow, and I've
    only got 2 lectures first thing, so a whole day of looking for easter
    eggs 😄

    Loose.

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  10. Hey Everybody,

    Thanks for the comments so far and i'm glad everyone is enjoying the
    DVD.

    James, thanks for the extensive write up and even though i'm probably
    over sensitive to negative comments, they are a big help.

    I'll try to reply to some of the questions and comments regarding the
    video.

    About the riding/locations:

    Street riding is evolving and progressing at an incredible rate, so
    naturally the video focuses on that (though there still is quite a bit
    of muni and trials). I think that people who do ride street will see
    much more variety in the locations and riding than most people. Where
    as some people will just see tricks being done over different stair
    sets, street riders are looking at the length, size, height, is the
    rail flat/round, how steep is it, how high is it, etc... I also wanted
    to focus on some of the smaller, technical street tricks that might not
    be as appealing to a general audience, but would be impressive to
    street riders. I think as far as urban riding goes, there is a great
    variety of lines, tricks, ideas, etc.

    I want every single shot, line, trick in the video to be unique in some
    way to something that has been done before. This presents a huge
    challenge in terms of filming trials riding and involves traveling all
    over the place to find interesting lines. I think we did a good job of
    that in Defect and there is a much larger variety than in U2. Ryan's
    lines he does in Quebec (we filmed these 15 months ago) still blow me
    away.

    One of the comments I got on U1 and U2 was that there was too much
    MUni, so I scaled it back a little in this video. It's much harder to
    show the evolution of MUni on video, as opposed to trials and street
    riding and it has been covered pretty extensively in past videos. I
    still think we found some great locations and I love some of the shots
    in Justin and Kris's MUni parts.

    Regarding Sac John... It's odd, because everyone I previewed the video
    to (all different ages) loved the comments that he makes. Maybe he
    goes over better in a larger viewing audience. His comments are meant
    to sort of narrate and carry the video and aren't just thrown in
    randomly. I personally find them funny, but I could see how some
    people could find them a bit annoying after watching the video 5 times
    in one night 🙂.

    About the title... Defect is a great name for the video, but it also
    has a lot of meaning. I guess you can interpret it in many different
    ways, but think about some of the comments throughout the video and
    some of the more common ones that we receive like "where's your other
    wheel" and "your bike is missing a wheel."

    I love hearing any and all comments on the DVD. Please feel free to
    post them here or send them to dan(at)sykoproductions.com Also, if you
    have any questions about anything on the Defect DVD, feel free to ask.

    There were so many people involved in making this production happen
    besides myself. All the riders spent tons of energy and time without
    asking for anything in return. Carl Hoyer and Sara Stockhousen did an
    amazing job on the cover design, t-[censored] design and DVD menus. Their
    were countless unicyclists who housed us along our journey's across the
    US and Canada, including the Hoovers, Vincent LeMay, Sem & Teressa
    Abrahams, and the Groves family!

    Thanks for the support everyone!
    -Dan

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  11. No Dan, thank you for putting all of your time and effort into something
    for the whole community. I think I speak for many, many people on here
    when I say that hundreds if not thousands of riders (including myself)
    have been influenced and inspired by the riding you capture and the
    productions your company makes. Unicycling today wouldn't be the same
    without Universe, Universe 2 and Defect, and it certainly wouldn't have
    the respect it has earnt in the extreme sports community.

    Many thanks to you, and all those who helped you make it happen.

    Loose.

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  12. well said loosemoose

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  13. Yeah, it was really great! The perfect thing to watch at our Uni
    Weekend, just made you want to go out at midnight and try a bunch of
    stuff. But the next day is always good too :p

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  14. Dan,

    Sorry if my comments came out in a negative light, they were meant to
    be far from it. You have truly out done yourself and I think the
    decisions you made were the right ones (eg. Less muni, as Kris explains
    in the commentary the difficulty of a muni line is never truly captured
    on film). It's also nice to see your response(s) and explanations for
    decisions here.

    I forgot to mention one of the best parts about Defect: some of the
    transitions and non-unicycling shots. For example the bit where (I
    think it's Ryan?) does a move in front of a clock tower and afterwards
    the camera pans up and focuses on the clock as it goes in high speed.
    I'm sure there are many other subtleties with the editing, riding and
    style that I missed in the first viewing, which is one thing that makes
    Defect so great.

    Your hard work is truly appreciated.

    Cheers,
    - James

    PS. Ditto to what Loose said 🙂 .

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  15. I must say that I like the music, also. I'm not into rap at all (I hate
    it with a passion, actually) but I have liked all the rap that is in
    both Universe 2 and Defect. I'm not sure if this is because of the
    unicycling that accompanies it, or if it's because it's not mainstream,
    but I'm liking it. Also, I noticed a lot of times (kaori's part, for
    one), where the riding was synchronized to the music. I've tried to do
    that in a little movie I made, and it was pretty challenging, so I
    appreciate the effort that went into doing it in such a big movie as
    this.

    The best song was either "Paging Mr. Bronson" or the one on zach's
    part.

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  16. where are the hidden parts?

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  17. In the DVD credits.

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  18. they are not hidden you juste look at them... i liked the one wheel
    motor thing

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  19. Just watched again... total up to 4 times.

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  20. Yeah, well done all around Dan! I loved it!!

    I love how every shot is composed and how there's lots of new and
    unique tricks. I was FLOORED watching your section, especially by about
    the 5th time watching it in slow motion, then going out and trying some
    of it, it's so hard!
    I loved all the sections and all the music, and zack's was really one
    of my faves, the music included.

    The intro music really gets you pumped too, and that gliding shot with
    the cool sounds rocks!

    I LOVED sac john, he was SO funny, his commentary too. It's great that
    sometimes people who come across as really weird/creepy at first can be
    that interesting 😄

    Great job, and keep up the great work!

    -Colin

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