Deer Danger



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Garrison Hilliard

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This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
areas.


It's happened to almost every driver: a deer jumps right in front of your
car!


Put yourself in this driver's seat.

You don't realize it, but you're about to hit a deer.


Some video captured by special car cameras, demonstrate just how little
time you have to react.


Sean Kelly hit a deer last Monday night, while driving his brand new car
on U.S. 27 in Cold Spring.


"It took me by surprise totally. I didn't see it out of the corner of my
eyes or anything," Kelly said.

But, it could have been much worse.


"I always saw the deer warning signs, but never took it as a serious
hazard," said Kathy Hill, whose husband Greg was killed as their family
drove home from a soccer tournament in Topeka, Kansas.



A Jeep on the other side of the interstate hit a deer, catapulting it over
the median and through their windshield.


"We were heading 70-miles an hour. So, the speed of the deer, when it hit
our van, I can't estimate what it was, but it made the deer like a
missile," Hill said.


Kathy was hurt. A witness told her about her husband's final moments.


"He was turning his head to the side to see if everybody else was
okay. And that's when he died," said Hill.


Wildlife officers say deer accidents are on the rise.


"There are more deer now in North America than there have ever been. And
we're right in their habitat. We're living there, we're driving
there," said wildlife officer Todd Malmsbury.

Be alert for deer, especially between dusk and dawn.

If you spot a deer, slow down. Others are probably nearby.

And, experts say, if the deer is directly in your path, don't swerve.

On a driving simulator, you can see that swerving to avoid a deer might be
a fatal mistake.

Swerving might take you into the path of an oncoming car, or cause a
rollover.

Instead, hit your brakes.


"A lot of times it's better to hit the deer than it is to actually try to
avoid the deer," said Lt. John Eichkorn of the highway patrol


One solution is the "highway underpass."

New research shows that deer will actually cross under a busy highway,
when given the option.

But, wildlife underpasses can cost as much as a million dollars each.

Deer crashes happen year 'round.

But right now is prime time: the birthing season.

Also be careful in October and November, the mating season.





Contact Carol Williams
E-mail [email protected]

<nice video at website>

http://www.wcpo.com/wcpo/localshows/healthyliving/1a85ac0.html
 
"Garrison Hilliard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
> areas.
>


i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike would be
something...anyone ever?...naw!
 
"Garrison Hilliard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
> areas.
>


i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike would be
something...anyone ever?...naw!
 
Garrison Hilliard wrote:
> This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
> areas.
>
>
> It's happened to almost every deer: a cyclist jumps right in front it! ...
 
greggery peccary wrote:
> "Garrison Hilliard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily
>> populated areas.
>>

>
> i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike
> would be something...anyone ever?...naw!


I came way too close for comfort to being absolutely creamed by a large buck
at Cuyamaca State Park (CA). Came bounding out of the brush right across my
path as I was /flying/ down a nice smooth singletrack. No doubt in my mind
whatsoever that it would have killed me if I'd been 10-15 feet faster.

Could see it happening on a road bike, too, but not nearly as likely I
wouldn't think. Still... watch out!
 
> i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike
would
> be something...anyone ever?...naw!

On http://www.bikejournal.com user irishbiker posted:
A few years ago I was finishing hill training for a MS150 tour and a
deer came out of the woods and took off across the road as I was going
downhill. I honestly thought I was going fast enough to get by. Wrong!
I crunched it and went flying. Thank goodness for my helmet. I actually
did have proof I hit a deer as my taco'd front wheel had deer hair
embedded between the tire and the rim. I've been kidded constantly
since by friends wanting to know if I've been bike hunting lately. A
friend and my father-in-law actually crafted a letter from the Kansas
Department of Wildlife and Parks telling me that hunting in this manner
was illegal and if I do it again I would be prosecuted to the full
extent of the law!
 
I've slapped a buck's tail during one commute and swatteded a doe on
ass another ride. The buck covered me in deer "pellets".

..max
 
I've slapped a buck's tail during one commute and swatted a doe on the
ass on another ride. The buck covered me in deer "pellets".

..max
 
"Garrison Hilliard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
> areas.
>
>
> It's happened to almost every driver: a deer jumps right in front of your
> car!
>
>
> Put yourself in this driver's seat.
>
> You don't realize it, but you're about to hit a deer.
>
>
> Some video captured by special car cameras, demonstrate just how little
> time you have to react.
>
>
> Sean Kelly hit a deer last Monday night, while driving his brand new car
> on U.S. 27 in Cold Spring.
>
>
> "It took me by surprise totally. I didn't see it out of the corner of my
> eyes or anything," Kelly said.
>
> But, it could have been much worse.
>
>
> "I always saw the deer warning signs, but never took it as a serious
> hazard," said Kathy Hill, whose husband Greg was killed as their family
> drove home from a soccer tournament in Topeka, Kansas.
>
>
>
> A Jeep on the other side of the interstate hit a deer, catapulting it over
> the median and through their windshield.
>
>
> "We were heading 70-miles an hour. So, the speed of the deer, when it hit
> our van, I can't estimate what it was, but it made the deer like a
> missile," Hill said.
>
>
> Kathy was hurt. A witness told her about her husband's final moments.
>
>
> "He was turning his head to the side to see if everybody else was
> okay. And that's when he died," said Hill.
>
>
> Wildlife officers say deer accidents are on the rise.
>
>
> "There are more deer now in North America than there have ever been. And
> we're right in their habitat. We're living there, we're driving
> there," said wildlife officer Todd Malmsbury.
>
> Be alert for deer, especially between dusk and dawn.
>
> If you spot a deer, slow down. Others are probably nearby.
>
> And, experts say, if the deer is directly in your path, don't swerve.
>
> On a driving simulator, you can see that swerving to avoid a deer might be
> a fatal mistake.
>
> Swerving might take you into the path of an oncoming car, or cause a
> rollover.
>
> Instead, hit your brakes.
>
>
> "A lot of times it's better to hit the deer than it is to actually try to
> avoid the deer," said Lt. John Eichkorn of the highway patrol
>
>
> One solution is the "highway underpass."
>
> New research shows that deer will actually cross under a busy highway,
> when given the option.
>
> But, wildlife underpasses can cost as much as a million dollars each.
>
> Deer crashes happen year 'round.
>
> But right now is prime time: the birthing season.
>
> Also be careful in October and November, the mating season.
>
>
>
>
>
> Contact Carol Williams
> E-mail [email protected]
>
> <nice video at website>
>
> http://www.wcpo.com/wcpo/localshows/healthyliving/1a85ac0.html
>


I have never seen or heard of anyone hitting a deer on a bicycle!
But the bike woould probably get the worst of it.

Ken
 
Bill Sornson wrote:
> greggery peccary wrote:
>
>>"Garrison Hilliard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected]...
>>
>>>This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily
>>>populated areas.
>>>

>>
>>i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike
>>would be something...anyone ever?...naw!

> that it would have killed me if I'd been 10-15 feet faster.
>
> Could see it happening on a road bike, too, but not nearly as likely I
> wouldn't think. Still... watch out!


We had a deer run across the road right in front of our 25mph pace line.
One guy panicked and hit his brakes too hard, endo'ed. Broken collar
bone and bike frame.
 
We see deer all the time on rides around here, even in the more
populated, suburban areas outside of Philadelphia. Where there is one
deer, we always remind ourselves that there might be a mate, or fawns.

There is a story in one of my bike clubs about a member on a suburban
(as opposed to rural) ride who was struck by a deer that suddenly
bounded out of the woods and tried, unsuccessfully, to leap over her.
--Roy Zipris
 
Garrison Hilliard wrote:

> This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
> areas.


The best way to stay on guard is to always expect the unexpected.
 
Garrison Hilliard wrote:
> This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily

populated
> areas.



Grass becomes the main food for deer during the summer months and
since there isn't much grass growing in the woods the deer head for the
areas next to the highways where there is plenty of grass growing to
graze (feed) on. That's why you see so many deer at night along the
highways during the summer, they're feeding. Generally, deer don't
cross busy roads unless they've been spooked by a predator (the deer
came out of no where!). Never swerve abruptly to avoid hitting a deer,
you have a good chance of rolling your car. It's better to just hit
the deer. Deer tend to eat farmer's crops in the fall months and
stuff like acorns and bark in the winter.

John
 
On Mon, 23 May 2005 22:18:40 -0700, "greggery peccary" <.@.> wrote:

>
>
>"Garrison Hilliard" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> This is a peak time of year for deer crashes, even in heavily populated
>> areas.
>>

>
>i almost crushed a squirrel yesterday, but hitting a deer on a bike would be
>something...anyone ever?...naw!


It happens. A buddy nearly got creamed on his MTB going up some wooded single
track. Seems someone up ahead had spooked this deer who went barrelling down the
trail right into Wayne. He saw the antlers coming at him and ditched. If he were
riding faster, he'd have eaten it.

Ron
 
Ken wrote:
>
> I have never seen or heard of anyone hitting a deer on a bicycle!
> But the bike woould probably get the worst of it.
>
> Ken


I was thinking the same thing. I ride my bike up in PA with my
brother. He has deer all around him. He actually feeds them. They
come to his back door for food. Along with every other creature that
lives on the acres of land he bought up there. I was there once while
the Mama's were bringing their little babies around. It was cute.

Anyway, to get back on track. We all ride around that area, and I
can't even imagine how we could not avoid a deer on a bicycle. Unless
you are training for an event and really going fast.

As far as I am concerned, I doubt very seriously if they are a huge
threat to someone on a bike. A car is a different story. Even in that
instance, if you hit the deer, the animal is dead and you have a
wrecked front end. (happened to my brother)

My husband hit a big dog that got loose in our suburban town. The dog
got up and left, my husband had alot of damage to the front end of the
car. I think the deaths happen when we try to avoid the deer and end
up hitting a wall or another car coming in the opposite direction.

Maggie.

How did this car/deer thread get on a bicycle NG. We never go OT. ;-)
 
questionme@________.com wrote:

>I live in the country and see deer all the time. I have had thousands
>of them run in front of my car. I have never hit one in my 30+ years
>of driving. You must ALWAYS be watching for them, and drive
>accordingly. That means drive slow if there are deer in sight. Why
>this is crossposted to a bicycles group I will never know...
>
>I must note that I did run over a dead deer once. Totally fu**ed up
>my exhaust system because someone hit a deer and left it laying in the
>road, and right around a bend in the road.
>
>At least if someone hits a deer they could move it off the road.


They were probably out of freezer space...

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame
 
In article <[email protected]>,
"Ken" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I have never seen or heard of anyone hitting a deer on a bicycle!
> But the bike woould probably get the worst of it.
>
> Ken


Well, I hit a deer on my motorcycle. I almost died. I really don't
remember how it happened. I was in and out of a coma.
The deer whistles didn't help.
>

g adds.
MONEY , what a concept
 
questionme@________.com wrote:
> I live in the country and see deer all the time. I have had

thousands
> of them run in front of my car. I have never hit one in my 30+ years
> of driving. You must ALWAYS be watching for them, and drive
> accordingly. That means drive slow if there are deer in sight. Why
> this is crossposted to a bicycles group I will never know...


Because bicycles hit deer too.

> I must note that I did run over a dead deer once. Totally fu**ed up
> my exhaust system because someone hit a deer and left it laying in

the
> road, and right around a bend in the road.
>
> At least if someone hits a deer they could move it off the road.


Yeah, the sight of Bambi corpses on the road is pretty disgusting, and
they are road hazards.
 
questionme@________.com wrote:
> I live in the country and see deer all the time. I have had

thousands
> of them run in front of my car. I have never hit one in my 30+ years
> of driving. You must ALWAYS be watching for them, and drive
> accordingly. That means drive slow if there are deer in sight. Why
> this is crossposted to a bicycles group I will never know...


Because bicycles hit deer too.

> I must note that I did run over a dead deer once. Totally fu**ed up
> my exhaust system because someone hit a deer and left it laying in

the
> road, and right around a bend in the road.
>
> At least if someone hits a deer they could move it off the road.


Yeah, the sight of Bambi corpses on the road is pretty disgusting, and
they are road hazards.