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  1. Tony Raven said:

    That's an interesting though ethically testing opportunity for the unlicensed
    carless in this group. Offer, for a hefty fee plus payment of any fines, to be
    the registered keeper of vehicles driven by those with lots of points on their
    licenses. They can go about speeding and other offences unhindered while you
    absorb all the points for them on your non-license. Presumably the worst they
    could do is ban you from driving.

    Surely it can't work, can it?

    I wonder how much per year it could be worth.

    I have a clean driving license and no car, and no intension of driving in the
    near future. An acquaintance has a fast car and eleven points. The acquaintance
    offers me a sum of money to be the registered keeper of their car.

    It's got to be worth a quid or two...

  2. On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 12:31:38 -0000, "Tony Raven"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    Just tell them the last time you looked at the basic principles of English Law
    it was for them to prove your guilt, not you to prove your innocence.

    Years ago Mr Richard Stilgoe wrote an amusing ditty on the subject of those
    officials who have a statutory right of access to one's home. I cannot find the
    text at present, but I have a sneaking suspicion that TV license people were on
    the list (though I could be wrong, and even if I wasn't, Mr Stilgoe could).

    --
    Guy
    ===
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    chapmancentral.demon.co.ukchapmancentral.demon.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

  3. "Gonzalez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I wonder how much per year it could be worth.

    I have a clean driving license and no car, and no intension of driving in the
    near future. An acquaintance has a fast car and eleven points. The acquaintance
    offers me a sum of money to be the registered keeper of their car.

    It's got to be worth a quid or two...

    But what about your conscience ;-)

    Tony

  4. Tony Raven said:


    "Gonzalez" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    I wonder how much per year it could be worth.

    I have a clean driving license and no car, and no
    intension of driving in the near future. An acquaintance
    has a fast car and eleven points. The acquaintance
    offers me a sum of money to be the registered keeper of
    their car.

    It's got to be worth a quid or two...

    But what about your conscience ;-)

    Yep, that too can be bought.

  5. in message <[email hidden]>, Gwyn ([email hidden]'😉

    Quoted message said:

    So what happenned to innocent until proven guilty?

    It's a Basic Civil Right. Here in the UK we have a blunkett
    ban on those.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke)
    jasmine.org.uk~simon

    ;; 'I think we should trust our president in every
    decision ;; that he makes and we should just
    support that' ;; Britney Spears of George W Bush,
    CNN 04:09:03

  6. Gonzalez said:

    On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:17:33 -0000, "Tony Raven" <junk@raven-

    family.com said:

    That's an interesting though ethically testing opportunity
    for the unlicensed carless in this group. Offer, for a
    hefty fee plus payment of any fines, to be the registered
    keeper of vehicles driven by those with lots of points on
    their licenses. They can go about speeding and other
    offences unhindered while you absorb all the points for
    them on your non-license. Presumably the worst they could
    do is ban you from driving.

    Surely it can't work, can it?

    I wonder how much per year it could be worth.

    I have a clean driving license and no car, and no intension
    of driving in the near future. An acquaintance has a fast
    car and eleven points. The acquaintance offers me a sum of
    money to be the registered keeper of their car.

    It's got to be worth a quid or two...

    It quite common with undergrad students. Most can't
    afford cars at uni and so have a three year period with a
    licence but no car. They will offer to take convictions
    off people for the cost of the fine plus another couple
    of hundred. Then by the time they leave uni, they have a
    clean licence again.
    --
    "We take these risks, not to escape from life, but to
    prevent life escaping from us." bensales.combensales.com

  7. BenS said:

    It quite common with undergrad students. Most can't
    afford cars at uni and so have a three year period with a
    licence but no car. They will offer to take convictions
    off people for the cost of the fine plus another couple
    of hundred. Then by the time they leave uni, they have a
    clean licence again.

    Why do they need a license? It would seem you could be the
    registered keeper without a license in which case they can't
    put any points on it.

    Must do wonders for their insurance premiums when they do
    get a car though

    Tony

  8. Tony Raven said:
    BenS said:

    It quite common with undergrad students. Most can't
    afford cars at uni and so have a three year period with a
    licence but no car. They will offer to take convictions
    off people for the cost of the fine plus another couple
    of hundred. Then by the time they leave uni, they have a
    clean licence again.

    Why do they need a license? It would seem you could be the
    registered keeper without a license in which case they
    can't put any points on it.

    If you don't have a licence when you're convicted of a crime
    which has a punishment of point, you're given a licence with
    points on. This licence doesn't entitle you to drive but is
    a holder for if/when you do get a proper licence. The points
    are then transferred.

    Quoted message said:

    Must do wonders for their insurance premiums when they do
    get a car though

    The idea is, I think, that by the time they've left uni the
    points are gone from their licence due to the three year
    rule. They can then get insurance for normal price. In
    reality I guess they don't think that far ahead, they think
    of a few more quid to extend the student loan.
    --
    "We take these risks, not to escape from life, but to
    prevent life escaping from us." bensales.combensales.com

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