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Tony Raven said:

Quoted message said:

My sister-in-law wouldn't have a television in the house for a long time, but her oldest child,
who has now left home, has never really forgiven her for it - she thinks she suffered a deprived
childhood!

Too true. How do you compete in a pub quiz or play Trivial Pursuit if you don't know your media
culture ;-^)

I have the same problem ( although I have a TV) and obect to having to know about various soap
"stars" to be classed as having general knowledge

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Arthur Clune said:

Tony Raven <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Too true. How do you compete in a pub quiz or play Trivial Pursuit if you don't know your media
: culture ;-^)

This is a real problem.

Turn a disadvantage around... and don't play Trivial Pursuit! There are loads of much better
games out there, including light fare in case anyone thinks I'm suggesting deep strategy games
are Just The Thing to get a social gathering swinging... (though this doesn't help in the pub
quiz, of course).

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Arthur Clune said:

A more serious problem is that neither I, nor any of my friends, have any interest in or knowledge
whatsoever of football. Makes the "sport" round tricky sometimes.

True! IMHO I find that the "sports" questions should be more accurately labeled "balls"

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Richard Goodman said:

It's not the ownership of a tuner that counts. What counts is the _use_ of TV equipment to receive
broadcasts.

Don't all pieces of metal receive radio signals?

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On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:43:10 +0000, in <[email hidden]>,

Peter Clinch said:

A pal with a B&W TV did get a visit to make sure she really did have a B&W set. She said the
inspectors were rather amazed and amused to find she'd been telling the truth!

Is it still the case that a TV which is running on its own INTERNAL battery is exempt from needing
a licence?
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:17:10 +0000, [email hidden] (marc)
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Quoted message said:

Don't all pieces of metal receive radio signals?

True - should people be charged for a Radio Licence if their metal teeth-fillings pick up Radio 4?

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Peter Clinch said:

Arthur Clune said:

I found that ringing them up works well. They seem to have some sort of "we believe them really"
flag on the DB and once you manage to convince them they stop hassleing you.

I've always just waited for them to come around to get me to find that I really don't have one
after all, and I have yet to meet them after years of no TV. A couple of times I have been left
"we came around to throw you in jail, but you weren't in, so we didn't" cards, but since they only
ever seemed to call during standard work hours they obviously weren't trying too hard...

Coincidentally today I received letter Number 8 since last March and the third this year. They have
changed tack and are now using the name and shame tactic with "the additional consequences (to the
£1000 fine) could be even more serious - the inconvenience and potential shame of a court
appearance".

They persist in saying that "If you buy a TV Licence now, you will save yourself the possibility of
prosecution". I'm sorry but there is *no* possibility :-)

And they keep promising to visit - even if I contact them and tell them I'm TV-free which seems make
any action on my part pointless.

I am surprised licence payers put up with this complete waste of money - EIGHT letters and they are
still faffing about with empty threats.

There was a chap with a ladder the other day who leant it up against the side of our house - he was
supposed to be a window cleaner, but I'm having my doubts...

John B

Gawnsoft said:

True - should people be charged for a Radio Licence if their metal teeth-fillings pick up Radio 4?

At the going rate for a radio license, yes. =A30.00, that is... I think=
=20
the license fee is great! I get some of the best radio in the world,=20 advertisement free, and it's
the folks with TVs that pay for it all!

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Peter Clinch said:

Gawnsoft said:

True - should people be charged for a Radio Licence if their metal teeth-fillings pick up
Radio 4?

At the going rate for a radio license, yes. £0.00, that is... I think the license fee is great! I
get some of the best radio in the world, advertisement free, and it's the folks with TVs that pay
for it all!

Is there something about cyclists not having TVs?

John B

In article <[email hidden]>,

Richard Bates said:

Peter Clinch said:

A pal with a B&W TV did get a visit to make sure she really did have a B&W set. She said the
inspectors were rather amazed and amused to find she'd been telling the truth!

Is it still the case that a TV which is running on its own INTERNAL battery is exempt from needing
a licence?

It never was the case, unless you can show the link back to the license it's hung off.

ian

JohnB said:

Is there something about cyclists not having TVs?

Of course there is. If you choose to cycle rather than drive 100% of the time you need to get
anywhere you're "obviously" either poorer than a church mouse and/or A Bit Weird, and if you choose
not to have a TV rather than do then you're "obviously" either poorer than a church mouse and/or A
Bit Weird.

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Quoted message said:

Peter Clinch said:

Gawnsoft said:

True - should people be charged for a Radio Licence if their metal teeth-fillings pick up
Radio 4?

At the going rate for a radio license, yes. £0.00, that is... I think the license fee is great!
I get some of the best radio in the world, advertisement free, and it's the folks with TVs that
pay for it all!

Quoted message said:

Is there something about cyclists not having TVs?

Quoted message said:

John B

There seem to be quite a lot of TV-free posters in uk.rec.sheds and uk.media. radio.radio4
as well...

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter Clinch said:

A pal with a B&W TV did get a visit to make sure she really did have a B&W set. She said the
inspectors were rather amazed and amused to find she'd been telling the truth!

Hehe! What was the visit like? Did they come bearing a search warrant and a couple of large
gentlemen in dark glasses?

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Peter Clinch said:

JohnB said:

Is there something about cyclists not having TVs?

Of course there is. If you choose to cycle rather than drive 100% of the time you need to get
anywhere you're "obviously" either poorer than a church mouse and/or A Bit Weird, and if you
choose not to have a TV rather than do then you're "obviously" either poorer than a church mouse
and/or A Bit Weird.

Nah, I ride a trice and a brommie, and sometimes use a trailer on both. Everyone does. It's
Completely Normal.

John B

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:43:10 +0000 someone who may be Peter Clinch
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

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I've always just waited for them to come around to get me to find that I really don't have one
after all, and I have yet to meet them after years of no TV.

I don't think there is any rhyme or reason to these winkers. They have left me alone for a few years
now, after several years of threatening words and behaviour for my "crime" of only having a black
and white television. No doubt they will soon be threatening me again.

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On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:29:09 +0000 someone who may be anonymous
coward <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

But would be fun to ask for his card and when he couldn't produce one make a citizen's arrest and
call the police.

They're complete Nazis - I couldn't agree more.

They are not Nazis, not by a very long way.

However they are obnoxious small minded officials, from the same cesspit as customs perverts and a
number of others. Were I running the UK I would take advice from the Chinese on how to "re-educate"
these officials.

In the absence of that I refuse to let them into my house. They can come back with the proper
paperwork and a police officer if they really want to. Then I can make remarks on how the police
must be really on top of all sorts of other things if they have the time for such nonsense.

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David Hansen said:

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:43:10 +0000 someone who may be Peter Clinch
<[email hidden]> wrote this:-

Quoted message said:

I've always just waited for them to come around to get me to find that I really don't have one
after all, and I have yet to meet them after years of no TV.

I don't think there is any rhyme or reason to these winkers. They have left me alone for a few
years now, after several years of threatening words and behaviour for my "crime" of only having a
black and white television. No doubt they will soon be threatening me again.

Must be thought of as well to do. Inspection priority is based on a neighbourhood deprivation score
calculated by the National Statistics Office. The more deprived your area, the more likely you are
to be inspected

Tony

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:17:42 -0000, "Tony Raven"
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media culture

<whoop!> <whoop!> Oxymoron Alert!

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On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:04:39 +0000, [email hidden] (marc)

wrote in message : said:

I find that the "sports" questions should be more accurately labeled "balls"

And the inclusion of astrology in the Science section also sticks in my craw...

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Just zis Guy said:

On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:17:42 -0000, "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message <[email hidden]-
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Quoted message said:

media culture

<whoop!> <whoop!> Oxymoron Alert!

Not at all, the culture is what grows on the media as any fool microbiologist will tell you.

Tony