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  1. I am a big wheel enthusiast and have been riding a Coker (with the
    Kovachi wheel and Kris Holm seat upgrades) for about two years now. I
    started on a Tom Miller 42" big wheel in 1982 but the hard tire seemed
    to become much harder as I grew older. The Coker has been great but i
    would love to find a better (lighter) fork and seat post. I would also
    like to know about the best cycle computer for a Coker and the easiest
    way to calibrate. Also, if anyone in the Detroit suburbs would like to
    form a weekly big wheel ride....let me know.

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  2. Another way to save weight is to get the wheel rebuilt with the airfoil
    rim and stainless steal smaller gauge spokes. That along with the
    previously mentioned lighter tube set up will greatly reduce weight.
    Reducing weight in the wheel is also much more easy to notice when
    riding. Frame weight really isn't going to slow you down as much as
    wheel weight, it will also make the wheel stronger and it will make it
    easier to control.

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  3. I have a Hunter 36" that is phenominal. I spend a chunk of change on it
    but it was well worth the investment. I don't know how much lighter
    than the others it is but as DustinSchaap stated, your not going to
    save much weight on the frame. The two best places to look to lose
    some weight is the wheel/tire/tube and the rider. Often overlooked but
    the one area where you can lose the most weight is from the riders
    body. While you can only shed ounces off your uni, most people can
    shed pounds off their bods.

    As for cycle computers, I've switched to a GPS device to avoid wires,
    wheel sensors and flying computer heads when I UPD. I use a Garmin
    Forerunner 201 that I wear on my wrist. It's a bit bigger than the
    newer "spiffier" models but it was a lot cheaper and it works just
    fine.

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  4. What Dustin said 😎

    Best to save weight on the wheel first- SS spokes, Airfoil rim, Coker
    (not TA tyre), Tubeless or 29'er inner tube. I've heard lot's of
    people having problems with 29'er inner tubes, so personally I think
    tubeless is better. Tubeless rides nicer too- you get a springier feel
    to your wheel.

    I still use a Std Coker frame- most of the custom frames are overly
    built- possibly to eliminate flex. But I don't notice much flex in my
    Std Coker frame, but then I don't use a brake either. To get a really
    light frame you need to get one custom made- maybe with thin, double
    butted good quality steel, aluminium, or carbon-fibre (glue them on to
    the crown) bike tubing.

    Don't forget the cranks and pedals- these can be quite heavy. Get some
    alloy cranks. I hate plastic pedals, but if you really want to
    sacrifice performance for weight, then these are probably lighter than
    most of the BMX/Trials pedals out there.

    I am upgrading my Diet Coker this weekend- will post pics and a weight
    once I have it up and running.

    The specs will be:
    Coker Tyre- Stans tubeless conversion
    Airfoil Rim
    Tommy Miller SS spokes
    UDC hub
    Schlumpf alloy 114mm cranks
    Wellgo MG-1 Magnesium pedals 390g (the lightest, broadest, flattest,
    grippy platforms I could find)
    Schlumpf 36" rejected Generation-1 frame
    Cut down steel seatpost (will upgrade to aluminium later)
    Miyata carbon fibre seat, dual density foam, leather cover
    Wallis Deathgrips (I actually prefer GB4 handles for distance, but will
    put these on for the exercise of building up the Diet Coker).

    I can't think of anything else to make it lighter right now.

    Ken

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  5. I haven't hear of a tubeless solution for a coker tire/wheel. Tell me
    more.

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  6. goldman said:

    I haven't hear of a tubeless solution for a coker tire/wheel. Tell me
    more.

    try 'this thread'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35269)

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  7. goldman
    I just started riding unicycles, I'd like to learn to ride a big wheel
    after I figure out how to not fall off this tiny thing I'm trying to
    cruise around on.

    I'm in Royal Oak, so not to far from you.

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  8. GizmoDuck said:


    I can't think of anything else to make it lighter right now.

    Don't sit on it.

    Sorry I missed you and Tony in Bangkok.

    Coker weight is all in the tire and the tube. Frankly, I view this as
    an advantage because the rotational intertia adds stability. It also,
    however, makes turning cumbersome. I'm not looking for a nimble Coker,
    I'm looking for a cruiser. That's just me. I don't own a cyclometer, a
    custom frame, or GPS. I don't have spider-web, tapered spokes or a tilt
    rail adapter. I don't even own a cell phone. I probably never will. I
    like to ride in scenic areas with friendly people on a zone-out,
    comfortable machine that runs on autopilot. And I like to stop a lot.

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  9. harper said:

    I like to ride in scenic areas with friendly people on a zone-out,
    comfortable machine that runs on autopilot.

    I have only owned a Coker for less than two months with 600+ miles on
    it. But I must agree with Harper. I also enjoy a nice long ride too.
    Also, the first pound of weight can be removed fairly easily. To
    remove the second or more pounds the trouble and/or expense increase
    substantially.

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  10. goldman said:

    I would also
    like to know about the best cycle computer for a Coker and the easiest
    way to calibrate.

    Calibration for a standard Coker wheel, without having to measure the
    rollout yourself, is described on my Coker Rollout page:

    http://www.xs4all.nl/~klaasbil/coker_rollout.htm

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
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    "I'm slowly but surely stealing Wales and bringing it back to my house on the wheel, frame and cranks of my muni. - phil"

  11. Like everyone else said. 🙂

    For computer, I have had great success with the Cateye Enduro 8. Good
    old fashioned wire, great magnet setup, takes a lickin' and keeps on
    tickin'.

    For calibration, check out 'this great resource'
    (http://www.xs4all.nl/~klaasbil/coker_rollout.htm) from forum activist
    Klass Bil.

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  12. Welcome David Goldman!

    I love my Coker, and used to ride it 8 miles each way to work. Now I
    don't work there anymore, and it's hard (for me) to get the discipline
    to ride lots of road miles without a destination. I haven't been on
    mine for a while.

    But the last unicycling I did was on a 2-speed Coker (Schlumpf hub) in
    the Marathon race at Unicon. That was a blast!

    Yes, like a bike, the main weight to try to reduce is whatever rotates.
    But if your goal is a good workout, leave it heavy. Your part of
    Michigan is flat enough...

    Most any cycle computer will work. I've got one sitting in a box and
    one day I'll need to hook it up. At that time I'll have to dig up the
    right number; the one that represent the wheel's circumference. Anyone
    got that handy? Oh, it's probably linked just above this post...

    Anyway, Goldman has been around unicycling for a while. As he said, he
    got his first big wheel the same year I got mime. He rode in (or at
    least he was there for) the *first* Unicon Marathon, a measley 8
    kilometers at Unicon IV. This most recent one was the real deal, 43k!

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  13. harper said:

    Don't sit on it.

    I never do when I'm climbing 😎

    Quoted message said:


    Sorry I missed you and Tony in Bangkok.

    How was your trip? Yeah, I was considering spending a couple of days
    in Bangkok but in the end I had to get home, so shame we missed you.

    Quoted message said:


    Coker weight is all in the tire and the tube. Frankly, I view this as
    an advantage because the rotational intertia adds stability. It also,
    however, makes turning cumbersome. I'm not looking for a nimble Coker,
    I'm looking for a cruiser.

    You can easily drop half the weight and it will still feel stable and
    comfortable over long distances.

    Quoted message said:


    I don't even own a cell phone. I probably never will.

    :eek:

    Quoted message said:


    I like to ride in scenic areas with friendly people on a zone-out,
    comfortable machine that runs on autopilot. And I like to stop a lot.

    Me too, except for the last bit :p

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  14. Klaas Bil said:
    goldman said:

    I would also
    like to know about the best cycle computer for a Coker and the


    easiest

    Quoted message said:

    way to calibrate.

    Calibration for a standard Coker wheel, without having to measure the
    rollout yourself, is described on my Coker Rollout page:

    http://www.xs4all.nl/~klaasbil/coker_rollout.htm

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
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    "I'm slowly but surely stealing Wales and bringing it back to my house
    on the wheel, frame and cranks of my muni. - phil"

    Do you have any updated rollout input with the introduction of the TA
    tires?

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  15. unipsychler said:

    Often overlooked but the one area where you can lose the most weight is
    from the riders body. While you can only shed ounces off your uni,
    most people can shed pounds off their bods.

    😄

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  16. GizmoDuck said:


    How was your trip? Yeah, I was considering spending a couple of days
    in Bangkok but in the end I had to get home, so shame we missed you.

    It was a gas. I PM'ed you a description of some of the things (I
    remembered) that we did.

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  17. pdc said:

    Do you have any updated rollout input with the introduction of the TA
    tires?

    No I don't.

    I could do the exercise again if I have good data from at least six
    people, preferably ten or more. What about the different rims now
    available, do they all have the same width as the original Coker one?
    Because that would matter too, to a slight degree. Then I need even
    more data, obviously.

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
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  18. Klaas Bil said:
    pdc said:

    Do you have any updated rollout input with the introduction of the TA
    tires?

    No I don't. I could do the exercise again if I have good data from at
    least six
    people, preferably ten or more.

    In a study of this precision, it is important to maintain as many
    elements of consistency with the original body of evidence as possible.
    Skew can be introduced in so many seemingly insignificant ways...the
    quad size of a new rider, the thickness of the padding in their shorts,
    pinned pedals versus those cheap plastic ones on the stock coker. It
    is critical to minimize variation!

    As an original participant, I will agree to maintain an ongoing role in
    this important research. PDC, I believe you have my address from our
    previous transaction. Please mail me one of those new TA tires as soon
    as possible. I will promptly enlist john_childs to install it so I can
    begin gathering data for Klass immediately.

    If you act promptly, there's no reason we can't have this whole thing
    pinned down by Christmas.

    TB

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