Chef's knife question

scyld said:

Pardon me if this is OT to this NG. I am also asking this
in rec.food equipment and rec.knives looking for answers.
Figured y'all'd know about knives:

After much research and agonizing after I lost my chef
knife, I bought a Messermeister Meridian Elite 10".

I got the knife in the mail the other day and have not
used it yet as I am terribly disappointed at its light
weight. Undoubtedly it is a fine knife but it just feels
like a lightweight stamped POS. Yes I know it is forged
not stamped -- I bought it for that reason and because it
was so highly rated by so many people. But my old knife
was a real heavyweight & I loved it!

So I am still looking for a knife. If there were a place
around here where I could go look at knives, I would have
already done so, but there is not, so I have been doing
all my research on the net.

QUESTION: Can anyone tell me the weight of the following
knives that are comparable to mine (i.e. 10", forged,
riveted handles, high carbon stainless)?:
- F. [censored]
- Wusthof
- Henckels (I know, sintered, not forged grom a single
blank)
- Any others I should know about?

TIA, shield

I have an R. H. Forschner 10" chef knife, model 430-10. It
has rosewood handles with 3 rivets. It is an extrordinary
*stamped* knife. I just weighed it, and it's 206 grams, or
about 7 1/4 ounces.

I don't know if that's heavy enough for you, but there you
go.

Best regards, Bob

On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 04:15:51 GMT, "scyld" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

QUESTION: Can anyone tell me the weight of the following
knives that are comparable to mine (i.e. 10", forged,
riveted handles, high carbon stainless)?:
- F. [censored]
- Wusthof
- Henckels (I know, sintered, not forged grom a
single blank)
- Any others I should know about?

My 10" Henckels 4-star weighs about 12oz's (less if I wipe
off the mayo).

-sw

Thanks, Bob. Sorry didn't mean to be a boor about stamped
knives. One uses what works for him. Just that I've been
using a heavyweight for 15 years, and a lighter knife just
feels strange. This knife is about 12 oz. (330 gm.). Not
near heavy enough to what I'm used to. A pound or so (450
gm?) would be more like more like it. Thanks, shield

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scyld said:

Pardon me if this is OT to this NG. I am also asking
this in rec.food equipment and rec.knives looking for
answers. Figured y'all'd know about knives:

After much research and agonizing after I lost my chef
knife, I bought a Messermeister Meridian Elite 10".

I got the knife in the mail the other day and have not
used it yet as I am terribly disappointed at its light
weight. Undoubtedly it is a fine knife but it just feels
like a lightweight stamped POS. Yes I know it is forged
not stamped -- I bought it for that reason and because
it was so highly rated by so many people. But my old
knife was a real heavyweight & I loved it!

So I am still looking for a knife. If there were a place
around here

where

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I could go look at knives, I would have already done so,
but there is

not,

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so I have been doing all my research on the net.

QUESTION: Can anyone tell me the weight of the following
knives that are comparable to mine (i.e. 10", forged,
riveted handles, high carbon stainless)?:
- F. [censored]
- Wusthof
- Henckels (I know, sintered, not forged grom a single
blank)
- Any others I should know about?

TIA, shield

I have an R. H. Forschner 10" chef knife, model 430-10. It
has rosewood handles with 3 rivets. It is an extrordinary
*stamped* knife. I just weighed it, and it's 206 grams, or
about 7 1/4 ounces.

I don't know if that's heavy enough for you, but
there you go.

Best regards, Bob

Yeah, that's what this 'meister weighs, but it just feels
too light from what I'm used to. Thanks, shield

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scyld said:

QUESTION: Can anyone tell me the weight of the following
knives that are comparable to mine (i.e. 10", forged,
riveted handles, high carbon stainless)?:
- F. [censored]
- Wusthof
- Henckels (I know, sintered, not forged grom a single
blank)
- Any others I should know about?

My 10" Henckels 4-star weighs about 12oz's (less if I wipe
off the mayo).

-sw

scyld said:

Thanks, Bob. Sorry didn't mean to be a boor about stamped
knives. One uses what works for him. Just that I've been
using a heavyweight for 15 years, and a lighter knife just
feels strange. This knife is about 12 oz. (330 gm.). Not
near heavy enough to what I'm used to. A pound or so (450
gm?) would be more like more like it. Thanks, shield

I didn't take any offense; just providing information. Since
the stamped/forged thing is important to you, I emphasized
it. The Forschner is a great knife, and it weighs a little
over 200 grams. If you're looking for something over 400
grams, you probably won't like this one.

Best regards, Bob

I know you didn't ask for sources for knives, but I buy all my knives
from "Smokey Mountain Knife works" in Tennessee. They carry just about
any kind of knife you can imagine ... maybe you could find what you
want from them.
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scGram

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Yeah, that's what this 'meister weighs, but it just feels
too light from what I'm used to. Thanks, shield

"Steve Wertz" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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scyld said:

QUESTION: Can anyone tell me the weight of the
following knives

that

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are comparable to mine (i.e. 10", forged, riveted
handles, high

carbon

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stainless)?:
- F. [censored]
- Wusthof
- Henckels (I know, sintered, not forged grom a single
blank)
- Any others I should know about?

My 10" Henckels 4-star weighs about 12oz's (less if I wipe
off the mayo).

-sw

Thanks, Bob; I appreciate your help.
Yes, I guess I always look for the best tool there is and then
work down from there to fit my budget. I want tools that'll
outlast me, I guess. Until I lose one & find it is unreplaceable. 🙁

The Forschner has wood handles. My old knife had ebony
handles. New handles are plastic. 🙁 High dollar knife,
too. scyld

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scyld said:

Thanks, Bob. Sorry didn't mean to be a boor about
stamped knives. One uses what works for him. Just that
I've been using a heavyweight for 15 years, and a
lighter knife just feels strange. This knife is about 12
oz. (330 gm.). Not near heavy enough to what I'm used
to. A pound or so (450 gm?) would be more like more like
it. Thanks, shield

I didn't take any offense; just providing information.
Since the stamped/forged thing is important to you, I
emphasized it. The Forschner is a great knife, and it
weighs a little over 200 grams. If you're

looking

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for something over 400 grams, you probably won't like
this one.

Best regards, Bob

"scyld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Pardon me if this is OT to this NG. I am also asking this
in rec.food equipment and rec.knives looking for answers.
Figured y'all'd know about knives:

After much research and agonizing after I lost my chef
knife, I bought a Messermeister Meridian Elite 10".

I got the knife in the mail the other day and have not
used it yet as I am terribly disappointed at its light
weight. Undoubtedly it is a fine knife but it just feels
like a lightweight stamped POS. Yes I know it is forged
not stamped -- I bought it for that reason and because it
was so highly rated by so many people. But my old knife
was a real heavyweight & I loved it!

<snipped>

Live and learn! Do not buy a knife without at least
holding it first.

--
Peter Aitken

Remove the [censored] from my email address before using.

scyld said:

Pardon me if this is OT to this NG. I am also asking this
in rec.food equipment and rec.knives looking for answers.
Figured y'all'd know about knives:

After much research and agonizing after I lost my chef
knife, I bought a Messermeister Meridian Elite 10".

I got the knife in the mail the other day and have not
used it yet as I am terribly disappointed at its light
weight. Undoubtedly it is a fine knife but it just feels
like a lightweight stamped POS. Yes I know it is forged
not stamped -- I bought it for that reason and because it
was so highly rated by so many people. But my old knife
was a real heavyweight & I loved it!

So I am still looking for a knife. If there were a place
around here where I could go look at knives, I would have
already done so, but there is not, so I have been doing
all my research on the net.

QUESTION: Can anyone tell me the weight of the following
knives that are comparable to mine (i.e. 10", forged,
riveted handles, high carbon stainless)?:
- F. [censored]
- Wusthof
- Henckels (I know, sintered, not forged grom a single
blank)
- Any others I should know about?

For the Henckels there is a huge range of knives. I still
don't know everything about them but I have noticed that
they have a little grid with one block filled in. The cheapy
knives are 00 and are a little light. I have a 9" marked
with a 6 and it weighs 231 grams or 8 1/8 ounces. I think it
is the Professional S series.

Doing a quick search of the web (www.google.ca) I found a
few articles about how the Pro S series "handles are heavier
and its knives are less weight-forward".

I also found a few articles about the Wusthof knives. They
noted how the blade was too thick for your average knife
block. The slots in the block were too narrow. This implies
that it would be a heavier knife due to the thicker blade.

All this looking has also got me thinking... heavy is one
thing but what about where the weight is? Do you want a
really heavy handle? Do you want the extra weight to be in
the blade?

P.S. I've heard good things about F [censored] but I've never
actually seen a local store selling the things. I get
the impression that F [censored] sends a rep to your
establishment just like Kirby vacuums or SnapOn tools
(although you can get SnapOn in stores now).

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On 14 Mar 2004 14:41:13 GMT, [email hidden]

(Darrell Grainger) said:

I also found a few articles about the Wusthof knives. They
noted how the blade was too thick for your average knife
block. The slots in the block were too narrow. This implies
that it would be a heavier knife due to the thicker blade.

I have a 20cm Wüsthof Classic. The spine is 3,4mm thick next
to the bolster and tapers to 0,7mm near the tip. I don't
know how narrow the slots are in average knife blocks, but
it fits just fine into the one I have.

Weighs 246 grams (ca. 8 2/3 oz), by the way. Can't say
about the 10 inch model, but it looks like the extra length
is in the widest part of the blade, so it's probably quite
a bit heavier.

Jarmo Louet

Replace # in my email address by @ to reply. Vaihda
osoitteen risuaidan tilalle @-merkki.

I can't help with the weight of the knives ... but a great
place to find most any knife you can imagine is: w-w-Open ↗
ww.eknifeworks.com/webapp/eCommerce/main_front.jsp We go
to TN once a year and I always buy all my knives there.
--
scGram

"A smile is the light in your window that tells others that
there is a caring, sharing person inside." ~ Denis Waitley ~

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"scyld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| Pardon me if this is OT to this NG. I am also asking this
| in rec.food equipment and rec.knives looking for answers.
| Figured y'all'd know about knives:
|
| After much research and agonizing after I lost my chef
| knife, I bought a Messermeister Meridian Elite 10".
|
| I got the knife in the mail the other day and have not
| used it yet as I am terribly disappointed at its light
| weight. Undoubtedly it is a fine knife but it just feels
| like a lightweight stamped POS. Yes I know it is forged
| not stamped -- I bought it for that reason and because it
| was so highly rated by so many people. But my old knife
| was a real heavyweight & I loved it!
|
| So I am still looking for a knife. If there were a place
| around here where I could go look at knives, I would have
| already done so, but there is not, so I have been doing
| all my research on the net.
|
| QUESTION: Can anyone tell me the weight of the following
| knives that are comparable to mine (i.e. 10", forged,
| riveted handles, high carbon stainless)?:
| - F. [censored]
| - Wusthof
| - Henckels (I know, sintered, not forged grom a single
| blank)
| - Any others I should know about?
|
| TIA, shield
|

AAnother good place to shop for chef's knives is PCD.

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