Cheap Recumbants ?

EMG Goodsin must be edykated coz e writed:

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Hi,

Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
like it!!

thanks

I am selling the following.

Challenge Wizard, OSS Recumbent, SWB, Nuclear green, Deore LX front and rear deraileur, 27 speed,
Deor LX front and rear hubs, Deore push pull gear selection, high profile alluminium rims, Magura
hydraulic rim brakes, rear suspension, rack, Cytek C10 computer, excellent condition, bad knee so
switching to trike. Excellent machine for commuting/touring. £895 ovno.

I am in Kent.

Ian

EMG Goodsin said:

Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spen=

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1000's and find i dont like it!!

For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime.=20 But some bargains do show
up second hand: my first one was an ex-demo=20 Orbit Crystal which I got for =A3250.

The main recumbent dealers (futurecycles, as Velvet mentions, Bikefix=20 (bikefix.co.ukbikefix.co.ukOpen ↗)
and London Recumbents=20 (londonrecumbents.co.uklondonrecumbents.co.ukOpen ↗) in London, D-Tek in Cambridge (no=20
website at present) and Kinetics (kinetics.org.ukkinetics.org.ukOpen ↗) in Glasgow=20 will all let you play on
demonstrators, which is a Good Thing.=20 Generally, these sessions will tell you within minutes if
you Really=20 Must Have One, but otherwise is probably not long enough to convince you =

if you're not immediately sure (for example, most people assume=20 visibility in heavy traffic will
haunt them, but until you're completely =

happy with the balance, which may take at least a day or two on some=20 models for some people,
you're unlikely to want to venture into heavy=20 traffic to find out...). But it's certainly better
than nothing, and if =

you *are* immediately beamed straight up to Grin Factor 9 then you know=20 you can spend your cash
fairly safely.

The other good thing about the dealers is they have a selection, which=20 IMHO is very important.
Though people use the term "recumbent" to=20 denote a class of bike, it's not really that helpful a
term. Mine, a=20 tourer, has far more in common with something like a Dawes Super Galaxy=20 than it
does with a Baron Lowracer recumbent when it comes to use and=20 application, for example. This is
worth considering when looking at=20 second hand ones too: ask yourself *why* you might want a
'bent, so for=20 example if it's to go screamingly fast then a BikeE or similar would be=20 a total
waste of your money (you could go a lot faster than a BikeE on a =

much cheaper upright racer). As with uprights, there are tourers,=20 racers, urban bikes, folders
and all shades in between, so don't just=20 look for "a recumbent", look for a recumbent that does
specifically what =

your particular job requires of it.

Pete. --=20 Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics,
Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden]
dundee.ac.uk~pjclinchOpen ↗

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Quoted message said:

EMG Goodsin must be edykated coz e writed:

Quoted message said:

Hi,

Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
like it!!

thanks

I am selling the following.

Challenge Wizard, OSS Recumbent, SWB, Nuclear green, Deore LX front and

rear

Quoted message said:

deraileur, 27 speed, Deor LX front and rear hubs, Deore push pull gear selection, high profile
alluminium rims, Magura hydraulic rim brakes, rear suspension, rack, Cytek C10 computer, excellent
condition, bad knee so switching to trike. Excellent machine for commuting/touring. £895 ovno.

I am in Kent.

Ian

Could also think about hiring one for a few hours to see how you get on with
it. Try speaking to FutureCycles - www.futurecycles.co.uk I believe - they're on the A22, south of
East Grinstead, in Forest Row - I think that's

and s/hand, and thought I've seen them advertise a quick lesson then take a hired one out for an
afternoon to see how you get on with it.

Having said that, their website isn't reachable for me, and I've not been down there for a few
months, but they didn't particularly look/sound like they might be going out of business when I was.

Velvet

Site works fine and you are right futurecycles.co.uktuitionhire.htmlOpen ↗
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Not a recumbent owner but pondering.Tried a few at York Rally from ICE .(
ice.hpv.co.ukframeset.htmlOpen ↗ )

Sam Salt

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Goodsin said:

Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
like it!!

For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime. But some bargains do show up
second hand: my first one was an ex-demo Orbit Crystal which I got for £250.

The main recumbent dealers (futurecycles, as Velvet mentions, Bikefix (bikefix.co.ukbikefix.co.ukOpen ↗) and
London Recumbents (londonrecumbents.co.uklondonrecumbents.co.ukOpen ↗) in London, D-Tek in Cambridge (no website at
present) and Kinetics (kinetics.org.ukkinetics.org.ukOpen ↗) in Glasgow will all let you play on demonstrators,
which is a Good Thing. Generally, these sessions will tell you within minutes if you Really Must
Have One, but otherwise is probably not long enough to convince you if you're not immediately sure
(for example, most people assume visibility in heavy traffic will haunt them, but until you're
completely happy with the balance, which may take at least a day or two on some models for some
people, you're unlikely to want to venture into heavy traffic to find out...). But it's certainly
better than nothing, and if you *are* immediately beamed straight up to Grin Factor 9 then you know
you can spend your cash fairly safely.

The other good thing about the dealers is they have a selection, which IMHO is very important.
Though people use the term "recumbent" to denote a class of bike, it's not really that helpful a
term. Mine, a tourer, has far more in common with something like a Dawes Super Galaxy than it does
with a Baron Lowracer recumbent when it comes to use and application, for example. This is worth
considering when looking at second hand ones too: ask yourself *why* you might want a 'bent, so for
example if it's to go screamingly fast then a BikeE or similar would be a total waste of your money
(you could go a lot faster than a BikeE on a much cheaper upright racer). As with uprights, there
are tourers, racers, urban bikes, folders and all shades in between, so don't just look for "a
recumbent", look for a recumbent that does specifically what your particular job requires of it.

Pete.
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Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden]
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Bet you will (like it, that is) though!! BTW don't forget to try both 2 and 3 wheels. If you are
anywhere near the SE you can try mine.

SW

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Quoted message said:

Hi,

Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
like it!!

thanks

Velvet said:

Having said that, their website isn't reachable for me, and I've not been down there for a
few months, but they didn't particularly look/sound like they might be going out of business
when I was.

They were still open today when I collected my Orca (At LAST!!!) :-D Doing quite well, too. Sold an
Anthrotech whilst I was in there.

--
DG

Bah!

Peter Clinch said:

EMG Goodsin said:

Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
like it!!

For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime.

<snipped excellent advice/comments>

The third way is to build your own. This can be very cheap if you have a big box of bits and a bit
of a mechanical bent. You can see a few hastily thrown together photos of my effort at the link in
the sig below. If it turns out to be a dog, then at least it will be your dog. Mine gives me a good
dose of grin factor, and may end up taking me to the dark side with a more professionally built
machine (but not before I can afford it).

--
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Conscientious objection is hard work in an economic war.

Aye!.

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The third way is to build your own. This can be very cheap if you have a big box of bits and a bit
of a mechanical bent.

Or get a kit: <http://www.dutchbikes.nl/uk.htm>

Mark van Gorkom

Disgruntled Goat said:

They were still open today when I collected my Orca

Hurrah! Let us know how you get on. Darth Ian OK?

Guy
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Jim Price said:

Peter Clinch said:

EMG Goodsin said:

Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
like it!!

For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime.

<snipped excellent advice/comments>

The third way is to build your own. This can be very cheap if you have a big box of bits and a bit
of a mechanical bent. You can see a few hastily thrown together photos of my effort at the link in
the sig below. If it turns out to be a dog, then at least it will be your dog. Mine gives me a good
dose of grin factor, and may end up taking me to the dark side with a more professionally built
machine (but not before I can afford it).

I'm still struggling with mine, struggling to get the 'fixing method' sorted....especially if I want
to do the welding/brazing myself, which I do.

I've come to the conclusion that the only way to go is a decent oxy/act setup - weld/braze/melt/bend
or just heat....it does it all. But storing two bloody great gas bottles in your one-bed flat is
*not* the way to go! Stick welding <although you can get the real small arc welders for 50 notes>
appear to be a no goer <although If I could find carbon arc torch....can't find one
anywhere!!....I'd get an stick
welder>, TIG is obviously way too expensive and MIG, not that easy
either for the type of joints I want to do.....so I'm down to Mapp/air at the moment. It will do
smaller stuff, no problem, but getting two bits if tubes hot enough to get a fillet braze going is
tricky. Next port of call is silver brazing, just as strong as bronze, and it melts at a lower temp
than brass, it might be doable with mapp/air,,,but much more expensive. After that will be resorting
to oxy/mapp, very much the ticket, but the small disposable oxy tanks are wallet burning
apparently..

still, we continue..

sorry, just blabbering here...

Garry

Garry Broad deftly scribbled:

Quoted message said:

Jim Price said:

Peter Clinch said:

EMG Goodsin wrote:

> Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
> like it!!

For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime.

<snipped excellent advice/comments>

The third way is to build your own. This can be very cheap if you have a big box of bits and a
bit of a mechanical bent. You can see a few hastily thrown together photos of my effort at the
link in the sig below. If it turns out to be a dog, then at least it will be your dog. Mine gives
me a good dose of grin factor, and may end up taking me to the dark side with a more
professionally built machine (but not before I can afford it).

I'm still struggling with mine, struggling to get the 'fixing method' sorted....especially if I
want to do the welding/brazing myself, which I do.

I've come to the conclusion that the only way to go is a decent oxy/act setup -
weld/braze/melt/bend or just heat....it does it all. But storing two bloody great gas bottles in
your one-bed flat is *not* the way to go! Stick welding <although you can get the real small arc
welders for 50 notes> appear to be a no goer <although If I could find carbon arc torch....can't
find one anywhere!!....I'd get an stick
welder>, TIG is obviously way too expensive and MIG, not that easy
either for the type of joints I want to do.....so I'm down to Mapp/air at the moment. It will do
smaller stuff, no problem, but getting two bits if tubes hot enough to get a fillet braze going is
tricky. Next port of call is silver brazing, just as strong as bronze, and it melts at a lower
temp than brass, it might be doable with mapp/air,,,but much more expensive. After that will be
resorting to oxy/mapp, very much the ticket, but the small disposable oxy tanks are wallet burning
apparently..

While I understand the motives behind doing much work yourself, why not just take the prepared bits
to a local engineering shop and have them do the welding for you ?

They are more used to welding and should have a far greater knowledge of what will and what won't
work for a given type of weld, joint material and joint structure. If you haven't welded before, and
don't have the 'proper' equipment, I suspect you'd be very lucky to get it right first time. It
takes a long while to get the 'feel' needed to produce welded joints that are cohesive, structurally
sound, and also don't look too much like Pigeon droppings .. 😉

--
Digweed

someone else said:

Garry Broad deftly scribbled:

Quoted message said:

Jim Price said:

Peter Clinch wrote:
> EMG Goodsin wrote:
>
>> Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i
>> dont like it!!
>
>
> For cheap, I'm afraid it's second hand or resorting to a life of crime.
<snipped excellent advice/comments>

The third way is to build your own. This can be very cheap if you have a big box of bits and a
bit of a mechanical bent. You can see a few hastily thrown together photos of my effort at the
link in the sig below. If it turns out to be a dog, then at least it will be your dog. Mine
gives me a good dose of grin factor, and may end up taking me to the dark side with a more
professionally built machine (but not before I can afford it).

I'm still struggling with mine, struggling to get the 'fixing method' sorted....especially if I
want to do the welding/brazing myself, which I do.

I've come to the conclusion that the only way to go is a decent oxy/act setup -
weld/braze/melt/bend or just heat....it does it all. But storing two bloody great gas bottles in
your one-bed flat is *not* the way to go! Stick welding <although you can get the real small arc
welders for 50 notes> appear to be a no goer <although If I could find carbon arc torch....can't
find one anywhere!!....I'd get an stick
welder>, TIG is obviously way too expensive and MIG, not that easy
either for the type of joints I want to do.....so I'm down to Mapp/air at the moment. It will do
smaller stuff, no problem, but getting two bits if tubes hot enough to get a fillet braze going
is tricky. Next port of call is silver brazing, just as strong as bronze, and it melts at a lower
temp than brass, it might be doable with mapp/air,,,but much more expensive. After that will be
resorting to oxy/mapp, very much the ticket, but the small disposable oxy tanks are wallet
burning apparently..

While I understand the motives behind doing much work yourself, why not just take the prepared bits
to a local engineering shop and have them do the welding for you ?

They are more used to welding and should have a far greater knowledge of what will and what won't
work for a given type of weld, joint material and joint structure. If you haven't welded before,
and don't have the 'proper' equipment, I suspect you'd be very lucky to get it right first time. It
takes a long while to get the 'feel' needed to produce welded joints that are cohesive,
structurally sound, and also don't look too much like Pigeon droppings .. 😉

Sure, common sense. But for me, to do the brazing <not welding btw> myself, is all part of the fun
and process of conjuring something from odd discarded bits and bobs I have lying around here. It's
not *that* difficult to braze properly....you just need the right equipment !!

Might be able to hire some oxy/act for a day or two.....watch your roof!!

Where there's a will there's a way :-)

Garry

I went to see AVD and borrowed a ride on a Windcheetah.

I did spend 000's but boy oh boy was it worth it.

I've had the speedy for 4 years now and do not regret one penny of what I have spent on it.

Comared the the depreciation on a new car as you leave the showroom, all recumbents are cheap.

Best regards

Rod (tri) King on Windcheetah #456

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Quoted message said:

Hi,

Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
like it!!

thanks

Quoted post said:

Originally posted by Emg Goodsin
Hi,

Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i
dont like it!!

thanks

No problem. You don't have to buy secondhand and you don't have to build your own.

There are a few recumbents available for less than a grand and even a trike, though not so many as last year what with the collapse of the BikeE empire and the unavailability of the Flevo Oke Ja.

HP Velotechnik Wavey, 500 pounds or 600 with fr suspension forks.

Challenge Focus Comfort and Focus Sport, 800 pounds.

Pashley PDQ, 895.

Stein Roadshark trike, 950 pounds.

EMG Goodsin said:

Hi,

Anyone know where to get a cheap recumbant from, as i dont want to spend 1000's and find i dont
like it!!

The good news: I have just received an advert for a recumbent for sale for, IIRC, three hundred and
ninety-five of the Britons' pounds.

The bad news: It's a Flevoracer...

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Dave Larrington said:

The bad news: It's a Flevoracer...

Some context here... first the caveat of I've never tried one and am=20 going from heresay. That
done with, the Flevo seems to have a good=20 reputation, or at least it does if you can get the
hang of it. It=20 doesn't use all this handlebar and turning front wheel nonsense to go=20 around
corners, but it has a joint in the middle and you steer it with=20 your knees. Or something.
Bottom line is that unlike most 'bents, just learning to ride it could=20 be a major project in
its own right.

Picture at liegeradinfo.defle race.jpgOpen ↗

If it wouldn't take =A3400 out of my Speedmachine/trike/8Freight kitty I'= d=20 be quite interested.
I've more or less cracked the basics of unicycling =

so I should be in with a chance...

Pete. --=20 Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics,
Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden]
dundee.ac.uk~pjclinchOpen ↗

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Dave Larrington said:

The bad news: It's a Flevoracer...

Some context here... first the caveat of I've never tried one and am=20 going from heresay. That
done with, the Flevo seems to have a good=20 reputation, or at least it does if you can get the
hang of it. It=20 doesn't use all this handlebar and turning front wheel nonsense to go=20 around
corners, but it has a joint in the middle and you steer it with=20 your knees. Or something.

So this 'bent *is* bent!

Colin

Seamus said:

There are a few recumbents available for less than a grand and even a trike, though not so many as
last year what with the collapse of the BikeE empire and the unavailability of the Flevo Oke Ja.
=20
HP Velotechnik Wavey, 500 pounds or 600 with fr suspension forks.

I suppose it depends how one defines "cheap". Given that you can buy a=20 perfectly acceptable
upright that will do just about anything most=20 non-competitve riders want for =A3200, =A3500 still
doesn't really repres= ent=20 "cheap" to many.

And though I've tried a Wavey and think at =A3500 it represents good=20 value, that would only be
good value if it does what you want. I=20 decided to spend over a grand more on the
Streetmachine, and since I=20 wanted a luxury cargo lugger that actually represented better value
for=20 my particular circumstances. Buying the wrong sort of recumbent for=20 one's needs will
just put you off them.

Pete. --=20 Peter Clinch University of Dundee Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Medical Physics,
Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden]
dundee.ac.uk~pjclinchOpen ↗