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  1. Just wondered what people thought about the following.

    I'm doing up a friend of mines old tourer (1987 vintage). One of the things she wants is a triple chainset, natch'. Now SJS currently have a Sugino PX touing shainset on eBay (as well as the shop, but at £70 it's a bit pricey :-) The thing I'm slightly concerned about is that they say it will only take a 127.5 mm bb. Now this seems rather long to me, and I am slightly concerned about the length and also the affect it may have on the chainline. Also these bb's seems to be getting rarer with 122mm being the largest most shops stock. The problem is that it has the best chainring combination.

    Does anyone have any opinions on this? (of course the whole things becomes accademic if I don't bid enough :-)

    Thanks

    bRyan

  2. Bryan said:

    Just wondered what people thought about the following.

    I'm doing up a friend of mines old tourer (1987 vintage). One of the
    things she wants is a triple chainset, natch'. Now SJS currently have
    a Sugino PX touing shainset on eBay (as well as the shop, but at £70
    it's a bit pricey :-) The thing I'm slightly concerned about is that
    they say it will only take a 127.5 mm bb. Now this seems rather long
    to me, and I am slightly concerned about the length and also the
    affect it may have on the chainline. Also these bb's seems to be
    getting rarer with 122mm being the largest most shops stock. The
    problem is that it has the best chainring combination.

    A long BB doesn't necessarily mean a far-out chainline. It depends where
    the design of the cranks puts the chainrings in relation to the bit that
    fits on the spindle. Sorry I don't know about Sugino PX.

    You could get a decent Shimano or Campag or other triple for much less
    than £70 (elsewhere). What size chainrings are required? Specifically,
    what would be the smallest acceptable middle ring?

    It can be worth buying a complete chainset just for the cranks, then
    alternative chainrings separately (selling the original rings to help pay
    for them). I would seriously consider doing that for anything other than
    one of the usual boring combinations.

    ~PB

  3. "Bryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Just wondered what people thought about the following.

    I'm doing up a friend of mines old tourer (1987 vintage). One of the
    things she wants is a triple chainset, natch'. Now SJS currently have
    a Sugino PX touing shainset on eBay (as well as the shop, but at £70
    it's a bit pricey :-) The thing I'm slightly concerned about is that
    they say it will only take a 127.5 mm bb. Now this seems rather long
    to me, and I am slightly concerned about the length and also the affect
    it may have on the chainline. Also these bb's seems to be getting rarer
    with 122mm being the largest most shops stock. The problem is that it
    has the best chainring combination.

    Does anyone have any opinions on this? (of course the whole things
    becomes accademic if I don't bid enough :-)

    Thanks

    bRyan

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    Bryan

    Ypu could look at the Stronglight Impact triple at Spa Cycles. Takes a 113
    bottom bracket I think. See
    http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b2s109p3 and costs £48. Best
    dealt with by phone and will also be helpful about bottom bracket sizing
    plus sell you one at a good price if that'what you need.

    HTH
    Julia

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  4. JBB said:

    "Bryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Just wondered what people thought about the following.

    I'm doing up a friend of mines old tourer (1987 vintage). One of the
    things she wants is a triple chainset, natch'. Now SJS currently have
    a Sugino PX touing shainset on eBay (as well as the shop, but at £70
    it's a bit pricey :-) The thing I'm slightly concerned about is that
    they say it will only take a 127.5 mm bb. Now this seems rather long
    to me, and I am slightly concerned about the length and also the affect
    it may have on the chainline. Also these bb's seems to be getting rarer
    with 122mm being the largest most shops stock. The problem is that it
    has the best chainring combination.

    Does anyone have any opinions on this? (of course the whole things
    becomes accademic if I don't bid enough :-)

    Thanks

    bRyan

    --
    Bryan

    Ypu could look at the Stronglight Impact triple at Spa Cycles. Takes a 113
    bottom bracket I think. See
    http://www.spacycles.co.uk/products.php?plid=m2b2s109p3 and costs £48. Best
    dealt with by phone and will also be helpful about bottom bracket sizing
    plus sell you one at a good price if that'what you need.

    HTH
    Julia

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    Thanks for the help, I'd not though of Stronglight, but the I can get one of these and an UN73 bb for the same priice as I would have paid for the Sugino + bb, and specify the chinarings ! :-)

    The problem with the Campag road triples was that they all came with large rings (i.e. no 28/26 inners and 50/52 outers), which would be OK fo rme :-), but not my friend who is getting her bike serviced as she's doing a LEJOG! Shimano road chainsets seemsed to be the same as Campag, and the MTB ones all came with rings too small :-(

    Bryan

  5. Bryan said:

    Thanks for the help, I'd not though of Stronglight, but the I can get
    one of these and an UN73 bb for the same priice as I would have paid
    for the Sugino + bb, and specify the chinarings ! :-)

    Radical - but it might be wiser to stick with metal. :-)

    --
    Dave...

  6. "dkahn400" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Bryan said:

    Thanks for the help, I'd not though of Stronglight, but the I can get
    one of these and an UN73 bb for the same priice as I would have paid
    for the Sugino + bb, and specify the chinarings ! :-)

    Radical - but it might be wiser to stick with metal. :-)

    --
    Dave...


    I dunno, we seem to have ceramic rims nowadays!

    Julia

  7. Bryan said:

    The problem with the Campag road triples was that they all came with
    large rings (i.e. no 28/26 inners and 50/52 outers),

    The problem has a solution if a minimum middle ring of 39 (or 38 for
    Shimano) is acceptable: change the rings.

    Compatible Stronglight & TA rings are available from Settle Cycles.

    Bear in mind that Campag chainsets cost as little as £36 for Xenon and £46
    for Mirage*, with BBs from £9. Unwanted Campag chainrings can be sold for
    several pounds each on eBay.

    * Mirage crank arms are the same as much more expensive Centaur's (not
    sure about Xenon's), and all the BBs work fine. I'd recommend the Veloce
    BB to save a bit of weight for only a couple of quid extra -- 111mm if
    seat tube is < 32mm (and sometimes is ok even for 32mm seat tubes).

    ~PB

  8. Re the Mirage triple chainset mentioned below. The Campag recommended bottom
    bracket is 111mm but I had to use a 102mm for my Italian Olmo!
    John.

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    "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Bryan said:

    The problem with the Campag road triples was that they all came with
    large rings (i.e. no 28/26 inners and 50/52 outers),

    The problem has a solution if a minimum middle ring of 39 (or 38 for
    Shimano) is acceptable: change the rings.

    Compatible Stronglight & TA rings are available from Settle Cycles.

    Bear in mind that Campag chainsets cost as little as £36 for Xenon and £46
    for Mirage*, with BBs from £9. Unwanted Campag chainrings can be sold for
    several pounds each on eBay.

    * Mirage crank arms are the same as much more expensive Centaur's (not
    sure about Xenon's), and all the BBs work fine. I'd recommend the Veloce
    BB to save a bit of weight for only a couple of quid extra -- 111mm if
    seat tube is < 32mm (and sometimes is ok even for 32mm seat tubes).

    ~PB

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