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  1. Engineers discovered that two factors were important to the efficiency of
    the chain, the size of the sprocket and tension in the chain; the larger the
    sprocket and the higher the tension, the more efficient the chain.
    From a standing start in a 4k Pursuit, when a rider applies that first maximum
    crank pressure, how is that force distributed between the sprocket teeth in
    contact with the chain ?

  2. n crowley said:

    Engineers discovered that two factors were important to the efficiency
    of
    the chain, the size of the sprocket and tension in the chain; the
    larger the
    sprocket and the higher the tension, the more efficient the chain.
    From a standing start in a 4k Pursuit, when a rider applies that first
    maximum
    crank pressure, how is that force distributed between the sprocket
    teeth in
    contact with the chain ?


    IIRC the first couple of teeth take most of the load. You can prove
    this to yourself the next time you remove a fixed sprocket using a
    chainwhip. The chain simply falls off the last few teeth of the
    sprocket even when you're leaning on the handle of the whip - and this
    is with a new sprocket.

  3. n crowley said:

    Engineers discovered that two factors were important to the efficiency
    of
    the chain, the size of the sprocket and tension in the chain; the
    larger the
    sprocket and the higher the tension, the more efficient the chain.

    I thought it was lower tension -> more efficient. Less friction at the
    pins or some such. All else being equal, larger sprockets -> lower
    tension.

  4. Jim Smith said:

    I thought it was lower tension -> more efficient. Less friction at the
    pins or some such. All else being equal, larger sprockets -> lower
    tension.

    I think I saw the same website. Presumably they were looking at it from
    the POV of a singlespeed/fixed transmission where the chain tension is
    adjustable. I think the theory is that a tighter chain doesn't waste
    energy by sagging (i.e. flexing) on the two runs between sprocket and
    chainring.

    The most surprising finding was that an unlubricated chain is nearly as
    efficient as a lubricated one (although it's noisy and presumably wears
    very fast). I'm not as surprised by the lack of any real performance
    difference between lubricants.

  5. "Zog The Undeniable" wrote: IIRC the first couple of teeth take most of the
    load. You can prove this to yourself the next time you remove a fixed
    sprocket using a chainwhip. The chain simply falls off the last few teeth
    of the sprocket (clip)
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Unless it is a homemade chainwhip, the chain will not be worn. Any time the
    chain is less worn than the sprocket, it will have a shorter pitch than the
    sprocket, which tends to place the load on the first tooth or teeth. As a
    chain wears, it distributes the load more evenly. If a worn chain is mated
    to a new sprocket, the longer pitch tends to load the teeth that are just
    going out of mesh.

  6. Leo Lichtman said:

    Unless it is a homemade chainwhip, the chain will not be worn. Any time the
    chain is less worn than the sprocket, it will have a shorter pitch than the
    sprocket, which tends to place the load on the first tooth or teeth. As a
    chain wears, it distributes the load more evenly. If a worn chain is mated
    to a new sprocket, the longer pitch tends to load the teeth that are just
    going out of mesh.


    This was with a new sprocket and an admittedly home-made chainwhip, but
    using virgin chain. Incidentally, the sprocket was an E.A.I. steel 18T
    which is supposed to be of very high quality.

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