Engineers discovered that two factors were important to the efficiency of
the chain, the size of the sprocket and tension in the chain; the larger the
sprocket and the higher the tension, the more efficient the chain.
From a standing start in a 4k Pursuit, when a rider applies that first maximum
crank pressure, how is that force distributed between the sprocket teeth in
contact with the chain ?
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n crowley said:
Engineers discovered that two factors were important to the efficiency
of
the chain, the size of the sprocket and tension in the chain; the
larger the
sprocket and the higher the tension, the more efficient the chain.
From a standing start in a 4k Pursuit, when a rider applies that first
maximum
crank pressure, how is that force distributed between the sprocket
teeth in
contact with the chain ?
IIRC the first couple of teeth take most of the load. You can prove
this to yourself the next time you remove a fixed sprocket using a
chainwhip. The chain simply falls off the last few teeth of the
sprocket even when you're leaning on the handle of the whip - and this
is with a new sprocket. -
n crowley said:
Engineers discovered that two factors were important to the efficiency
of
the chain, the size of the sprocket and tension in the chain; the
larger the
sprocket and the higher the tension, the more efficient the chain.I thought it was lower tension -> more efficient. Less friction at the
pins or some such. All else being equal, larger sprockets -> lower
tension. -
Jim Smith said:
I thought it was lower tension -> more efficient. Less friction at the
pins or some such. All else being equal, larger sprockets -> lower
tension.I think I saw the same website. Presumably they were looking at it from
the POV of a singlespeed/fixed transmission where the chain tension is
adjustable. I think the theory is that a tighter chain doesn't waste
energy by sagging (i.e. flexing) on the two runs between sprocket and
chainring.The most surprising finding was that an unlubricated chain is nearly as
efficient as a lubricated one (although it's noisy and presumably wears
very fast). I'm not as surprised by the lack of any real performance
difference between lubricants. -
"Zog The Undeniable" wrote: IIRC the first couple of teeth take most of the
load. You can prove this to yourself the next time you remove a fixed
sprocket using a chainwhip. The chain simply falls off the last few teeth
of the sprocket (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Unless it is a homemade chainwhip, the chain will not be worn. Any time the
chain is less worn than the sprocket, it will have a shorter pitch than the
sprocket, which tends to place the load on the first tooth or teeth. As a
chain wears, it distributes the load more evenly. If a worn chain is mated
to a new sprocket, the longer pitch tends to load the teeth that are just
going out of mesh. -
Leo Lichtman said:
Unless it is a homemade chainwhip, the chain will not be worn. Any time the
chain is less worn than the sprocket, it will have a shorter pitch than the
sprocket, which tends to place the load on the first tooth or teeth. As a
chain wears, it distributes the load more evenly. If a worn chain is mated
to a new sprocket, the longer pitch tends to load the teeth that are just
going out of mesh.
This was with a new sprocket and an admittedly home-made chainwhip, but
using virgin chain. Incidentally, the sprocket was an E.A.I. steel 18T
which is supposed to be of very high quality.
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