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  1. if carbon fiber is so strong then why dont they make carbonfiber
    unicycles?

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  2. Somebody did. Plus you mistake what you describe. Diamonds are
    incredibly hard, the hardest thing know to man, yet can be smashed with
    a hammer.

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  3. titanium would be better, but expensive I imagine.:eek:

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  4. Or perhaps a better reply would be "They who?" Carbon fiber bikes are
    only owned by a tiny percentage of the bike population. If carbon is so
    great, why doesn't everyone have it? That's most of your question right
    there.

    BTW I have one, like these:
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  5. Yeah, but most middle to high end road bikes have carbon forks. Hmmm...
    what looks similar to a fork with a seat on it?

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  6. johnfoss said:

    Or perhaps a better reply would be "They who?" Carbon fiber bikes are
    only owned by a tiny percentage of the bike population. If carbon is so
    great, why doesn't everyone have it? That's most of your question right
    there.

    BTW I have one, like these:
    http://www.unicycling.com/garage/munigar.htm

    Actually a lot more racers are riding CF. The ones that don't it is
    either because of the price or they don't like the feel of it, not
    based on greatness of it.

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  7. isnt carbon fiber like really exspensive?

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  8. Its pretty expensive yeah but on a road bike worth it. I have a carbon
    fibre and aluminium and by far the carbon fibre is the best. It absorbs
    bumps better and is also lighter.

    A unicycle thou is put under lots of bending stress and twisting forces
    and carbon fibre cracks before it bends. Thats why I dont think it is
    used??

    Titanium as said is the best material at the moment but expensive.

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  9. brendon557 said:

    isnt carbon fiber like really exspensive?

    Yes, I think it's because it is harder to make stuff with it. There has
    to be a lot of engineering put into building stuff with carbon fiber.
    I'm thinking this is why they don't make unicycles out of it.

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  10. not so much for a unicycle frame.
    it shouldn't be more than $50 in carbon fiber.
    that is about how much it is to do a skimboard, so i'm guessing its
    much cheaper than that.

    EDIT: building it would defiinitely be a MAJOR pain though...

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  11. cool-bananas said:

    Its pretty expensive yeah but on a road bike worth it. I have a carbon
    fibre and aluminium and by far the carbon fibre is the best. It absorbs
    bumps better and is also lighter.

    A unicycle thou is put under lots of bending stress and twisting forces
    and carbon fibre cracks before it bends. Thats why I dont think it is
    used??

    Titanium as said is the best material at the moment but expensive.

    Dude carbon fiber is more rigid than aluminum and steel. Steal is
    softest then Aluminum then CF but aluminum is more bouncy/less
    absorbing then cf...I think cf unis would be no good because i throw
    mine down a [censored] and even rubbing cf too much while its in a car
    can wear right though that stuff. ALU. or TI

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  12. while on the subject (sorta)

    what about Graphite?
    that would make a pretty awesome frame.

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  13. I think carbon fiber is the way to go, it's an amazing material. By
    weight it's much stronger and stiffer than steel aluminum and even
    titanium.

    The reason that their are so few carbon fiber bikes is simply because
    they cost a lot, the demand isn't there.

    I think it would be ideal for coker and muni frames.

    -'great video about CF bikes ' (http://tinyurl.com/3apetg)

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  14. anton005 said:

    what looks similar to a fork with a seat on it?

    A plumbing pipe looks similar to a truck's driveshaft. Switch them and
    you've got problems. What I mean is that though a bike fork is very
    similar, the stresses on it are very different There's no twisting on a
    bike fork, so the rules for building one are very different from a
    strong uni frame. Doesn't mean you can't use carbon, but you can't use
    a carbon bike for (for best results).

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  15. I was just trying to poke fun. I really have no idea of the forces on a
    uni frame, hopefully the frame builders know. I would think a mountain
    bike fork would be a better match to handle the forces, you don't see
    many (any?) carbon mtb forks that's for sure.

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  16. johnfoss said:

    Or perhaps a better reply would be "They who?" Carbon fiber bikes are
    only owned by a tiny percentage of the bike population. If carbon is so
    great, why doesn't everyone have it? That's most of your question right
    there.

    BTW I have one, like these:
    http://www.unicycling.com/garage/munigar.htm

    Looking at the footage from the Tour de France this year, I would say
    that the majority of the bikes there are carbon. Most of the high end
    bikes these days seem to be carbon orientated, or if not, partially
    carbon (eg seatstays/chainstays).

    My mountainbike is carbon but my trusty roadbike is high-end steel.
    Carbon is light and strong, but after a couple of seasons it looks
    awful.

    I have seen a carbon Muni (one of the first made belonging to Jez
    Weston). It's still one of the lightest Muni's I've picked up.

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  17. Roger at UDC built 30 (i think) carbon fibre munis some years ago. They
    retailed at £750, and they didnt even have a splined hub (wasn't the
    way things were done back then). Yes it's light, but i believe Roger
    always wraps it when transporting as scratches in the tubes can cause
    premature failure. Carbon fibre, as any material, is only great in
    certain types of construction. Brilliant for monocoques but in a
    tubular frame not so good.

    Also there is a significance difference between stength, stiffness and
    hardness, it's important not to mix them up.

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  18. I see no reason to make CF unicycleframes. Aluminium coker frame weights
    663 grams, 36" aluminium rim weights 1170 g. So making 36" CF rim would
    be better idea. Even better thing would be 36" 1 inch wide high
    pressure tyre, it could cut the weight even 1,5 kg/3 pound and I guess
    the price would be something like 40-90 bucks.

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  19. skrobo said:

    while on the subject (sorta)

    what about Graphite?
    that would make a pretty awesome frame.

    I honestly don't think it would be that good an idea, it'd just have
    chunks wears off everytime you scrape it. The atomic structure is
    tough, but allows segments to slide off easily, hence the use of
    graphite in pencils.

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  20. The real advantage of carbon fiber is it's weigh. Carbon fiber is much
    lighter than most other materials. I assume a carbon fiber unicycle
    isn't really that great an idea because a unicycle frame is already
    significantly smaller and lighter than a bike frame.

    Another reason why unicycles are superior to bikes.

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