Cannondale's future

[Victor Kan]

> Seems under law, as long as the bike is Assembled in the U.S.A. and the Labels are made in the
> USA...then it is okay to say made in America. It kinda floored me.

Also remember that "America" includes Canada and Mexico (where my "Made in America" Delta bandsaw
with its stylized American flag label was actually made).

All the more sad regarding labels is President Bush making a speech at a US factory about jobs while
standing in front of a backdrop painting of boxes with a label of "Made in the U.S.A.", with some
real boxes in front of him with black tape or magic marker covering up the "Made in China" labels.
They couldn't even find real cardboard boxes that said "Made in the U.S.A" for a presidential speech
about jobs in the US!!!

Who needs to make up parodies when reality is so "funny" all by itself?

 

[Hel-Bent]

Josh,

I think that was to imply that the label was union made ;-)))

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"Joshua Goldberg" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Last year I noticed that TREK had 2 labels on their 4900 series Alum.
Mtbs.
> Label One said "Made in the U.S.A." and Label Two said "Union Made", which combined implied the
> bike was made in the USA by a Unionized workforce. What it actually meant was (the Labels are made
> in the USA by a shop that had a Union)...none of the Mtb. was made in the USA (except) the
> label...even the Bontrager parts were made offshore. Seems under law, as long as the bike is
> Assembled in the U.S.A. and the Labels are made in the USA...then it is okay to say made in
> America. It kinda floored me.
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> "John Riley" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> > I sem to recall hearing something like, if it costs more to paint a frame than it does to make
> > the frame, and you paint the frame in the US, then you can say it was made in the US because the
> > higher value process was done in the US. Don't quote me on that.
> >
> > As far as Trek goes, they may not have any more low end steel framed bikes. All their low end
> > bikes might be aluminum. So I don't think it has anything to do with shipping weight, but with
> > the volume and price point of the end product.
> >
> > Other than low volume speciality products like recumbents, I don't think there is much steel
> > bike production in Taiwan anymore. And I think even the recumbent people are under some pressure
> > from their Taiwan suppliers to go to aluminum. I think all the steel bike production has gone to
> > China.
> >
> > John Riley
> >
> >
> > Joshua Goldberg wrote:
> > >
> > > Does this include their Aluminum frames, the Aluminum frames I was
> carrying
> > > last year all came from Taiwan and stamped "Made in the U.S.A.". When
I
> > > contacted TREK about this I was told that Steel frames are not made in
> the
> > > Orient due to their shipping weight...(implying but not stating...that
> the
> > > steel frames are made in North America)....but that was maybe 15
months
> ago.

 

[Rob Kopp]

John,

Trek is still making the humble, reliable 520 in chrom-moly last I heard. It is one of the few true
'loaded touring' uprights being made. I suspect that it is still the Wisconsin article as well.

Rob "John Riley" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> I sem to recall hearing something like, if it costs more to paint a frame than it does to make the
> frame, and you paint the frame in the US, then you can say it was made in the US because the
> higher value process was done in the US. Don't quote me on that.
>
> As far as Trek goes, they may not have any more low end steel framed bikes. All their low end
> bikes might be aluminum. So I don't think it has anything to do with shipping weight, but with the
> volume and price point of the end product.
>
> Other than low volume speciality products like recumbents, I don't think there is much steel bike
> production in Taiwan anymore. And I think even the recumbent people are under some pressure from
> their Taiwan suppliers to go to aluminum. I think all the steel bike production has gone to China.
>
> John Riley
>
>
> Joshua Goldberg wrote:
> >
> > Does this include their Aluminum frames, the Aluminum frames I was
carrying
> > last year all came from Taiwan and stamped "Made in the U.S.A.". When I contacted TREK about
> > this I was told that Steel frames are not made in
the
> > Orient due to their shipping weight...(implying but not stating...that
the
> > steel frames are made in North America)....but that was maybe 15 months
ago.

 

[Dave Larrington]

I bought a steel-framed Trek 930 in, I think, '93. That had a US-built frame, but according to
one of the MTB comics, all their cheaper MTB frames were made in Taiwan. About 2 years ago, it
was replaced with an ally 4300 after the 930 lost a fight with a taxi. The 4300 frame was made
in Taiwan.

Dave Larrington - http://legslarry.crosswinds.net/
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[John Riley]

Yes, but the 520 is an $1100 bike.

Rob Kopp wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Trek is still making the humble, reliable 520 in chrom-moly last I heard. It is one of the
> few true 'loaded touring' uprights being made. I suspect that it is still the Wisconsin
> article as well.
>
> Rob "John Riley" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

> > As far as Trek goes, they may not have any more low end steel framed bikes. All their low end
> > bikes might be aluminum. g

 

[Tom Sherman]

Don wrote:
>
> ... If you were in the market for good bike and cared about the frame warranty wouldn't you want
> to be sure the company would be around to honor the warranty? It gets worse with bikes with
> proprietary parts. Now the customer also has to worry that the company will be around to supply
> those special parts and wear items....

I would purchase the orphan bike anyhow, if I thought it was worth having. Proprietary parts can
always be copied by a decent machine shop and frames can be repaired.

Orphans deserve good homes as much as other bikes.

Tom Sherman - Quad Cities USA (Illinois side) RANS "Wavewind" and Rocket, Earth Cycles Sunset and
Dragonflyer