Campagnolo vintage...

There is no great system, just have to know when Campy made changes to
logos and designs. e-mail [email hidden], he's a Campy (idiot?)
savant and loves to trace Campy lineage. I'm convinced he doesn't
sleep, just lays there and recites the Campy family tree to
himself..............

Dans le message de
news:[email hidden],
Meccanico di Bici <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

Quoted message said:

There is no great system, just have to know when Campy made changes to
logos and designs. e-mail [email hidden], he's a Campy (idiot?)
savant and loves to trace Campy lineage. I'm convinced he doesn't
sleep, just lays there and recites the Campy family tree to
himself..............

This may help :

http://www.campagnolo.com/trademarks.php

--
Bonne route !

Sandy
Verneuil-sur-Seine FR

Basjan said:

Hi,

How does one pin down the model year of Campagnolo components? Are there any
similar model numbers as is the case for Shimano components?

I have 9-speed ErgoPower levers, but with the new, rounded hood shape. The
front derailleur has no (9-speed, 10-speed) markings except "Chorus", but
the whole groupset otherwise is for a 9-speed setup.

Thanks for any help!

Basjan

First year for rounded shape was 1998, first year for 10s was 2000 so
yours are 1998 or 1999. Take the back plastic cover off and look at the
metal plate covering the shift guts. If it is smooth, no rectangular
notches-1998. If it has those(for ERGOBRAIN), 1999.

Meccanico di Bici said:

There is no great system, just have to know when Campy made changes to
logos and designs. e-mail [email hidden], he's a Campy (idiot?)
savant and loves to trace Campy lineage. I'm convinced he doesn't
sleep, just lays there and recites the Campy family tree to
himself..............

I go to sleep clutching my Campagnolo teddybear but it's getting worn
and if the rumors about 2007 perist, I may have to get a new one(not
[censored], of course, not Sram), Maybe start sleeping with tools instead
of BRAIN-less 'retail', more repair.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Meccanico di Bici said:

There is no great system, just have to know when Campy made changes to
logos and designs. e-mail [email hidden], he's a Campy (idiot?)
savant and loves to trace Campy lineage. I'm convinced he doesn't
sleep, just lays there and recites the Campy family tree to
himself..............

I go to sleep clutching my Campagnolo teddybear but it's getting worn
and if the rumors about 2007 perist, I may have to get a new one(not
[censored], of course, not Sram), Maybe start sleeping with tools instead
of BRAIN-less 'retail', more repair.

Which "rumors about 2007", Peter?

"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Basjan said:

Hi,

How does one pin down the model year of Campagnolo components? Are there
any
similar model numbers as is the case for Shimano components?

I have 9-speed ErgoPower levers, but with the new, rounded hood shape.
The
front derailleur has no (9-speed, 10-speed) markings except "Chorus", but
the whole groupset otherwise is for a 9-speed setup.

Thanks for any help!

Basjan

First year for rounded shape was 1998, first year for 10s was 2000 so
yours are 1998 or 1999. Take the back plastic cover off and look at the
metal plate covering the shift guts. If it is smooth, no rectangular
notches-1998. If it has those(for ERGOBRAIN), 1999.

Thanks, Peter. So there were no 9-speed ErgoPower shifters made after 1999?

Basjan

Ozark Bicycle said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Meccanico di Bici said:

There is no great system, just have to know when Campy made changes to
logos and designs. e-mail [email hidden], he's a Campy (idiot?)
savant and loves to trace Campy lineage. I'm convinced he doesn't
sleep, just lays there and recites the Campy family tree to
himself..............

I go to sleep clutching my Campagnolo teddybear but it's getting worn
and if the rumors about 2007 perist, I may have to get a new one(not
[censored], of course, not Sram), Maybe start sleeping with tools instead
of BRAIN-less 'retail', more repair.

Which "rumors about 2007", Peter?

Rumors only, with a capital 'R'..no more triples , compact and regular
cranks only and introducing the over hyped, overmarketed, outboard
bearing type BB for Campag...

"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Which "rumors about 2007", Peter?

Rumors only, with a capital 'R'..no more triples , compact and regular
cranks only and introducing the over hyped, overmarketed, outboard
bearing type BB for Campag...

They gonna make that in French threading? I'm still riding my '75 PX10. 🙂

It seems like it wouldn't be too hard to make a threadless one - have one
"cup" thread into the other, not too different from the Mavic/Stronglight
threadless BB.

Maybe this'll prompt Phil to branch out from square taper...

-Hank

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Meccanico di Bici wrote:
> There is no great system, just have to know when Campy made changes to
> logos and designs. e-mail [email hidden], he's a Campy (idiot?)
> savant and loves to trace Campy lineage. I'm convinced he doesn't
> sleep, just lays there and recites the Campy family tree to
> himself..............

I go to sleep clutching my Campagnolo teddybear but it's getting worn
and if the rumors about 2007 perist, I may have to get a new one(not
[censored], of course, not Sram), Maybe start sleeping with tools instead
of BRAIN-less 'retail', more repair.

Which "rumors about 2007", Peter?

Rumors only, with a capital 'R'..no more triples , compact and regular
cranks only

That's unfortunate, but given the poor image triples have amongst the
racer/racer wannabe/fast-recreational-rider segment of the market it's
kinda understandable. (Not to say the poor image of triples is
justified. Nor to say that a "compact double" is a good substitute for
a well thought out triple.)

Quoted message said:

and introducing the over hyped, overmarketed, outboard
bearing type BB for Campag...

UGH!! It's sad to see Campy get aboard the Pure-Unmitigated-[censored]
Wagon.

Here's hoping it's only "rumors".

I have reason to believe my Chorus 9-spd are 1998 (because the 10-speed
parts I bought for conversion don't fit). The finger lever is a closed
paddle rather than having a cut-out in it. That might have been unique
to 1998 9-spd as well.

Basjan said:

Hi,

How does one pin down the model year of Campagnolo components? Are there any
similar model numbers as is the case for Shimano components?

I have 9-speed ErgoPower levers, but with the new, rounded hood shape. The
front derailleur has no (9-speed, 10-speed) markings except "Chorus", but
the whole groupset otherwise is for a 9-speed setup.

Thanks for any help!

Basjan

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sandy said:

Dans le message de
news:[email hidden],
Meccanico di Bici <[email hidden]> a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :

Quoted message said:

There is no great system, just have to know when Campy made changes to
logos and designs. e-mail [email hidden], he's a Campy (idiot?)
savant and loves to trace Campy lineage. I'm convinced he doesn't
sleep, just lays there and recites the Campy family tree to
himself..............

This may help :

http://www.campagnolo.com/trademarks.php

The marks with the globe are wonderful.

--
Michael Press

Yes, '98 9-speed was unique in that it cannot be swapped to 10s.
Jim

I'll get you a Santa Cruz / Ellsworth / Turner / Ventana teddybear next
Christmas.

"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Basjan said:

Hi,

How does one pin down the model year of Campagnolo components? Are there
any
similar model numbers as is the case for Shimano components?

I have 9-speed ErgoPower levers, but with the new, rounded hood shape.
The
front derailleur has no (9-speed, 10-speed) markings except "Chorus", but
the whole groupset otherwise is for a 9-speed setup.

Thanks for any help!

Basjan

First year for rounded shape was 1998, first year for 10s was 2000 so
yours are 1998 or 1999. Take the back plastic cover off and look at the
metal plate covering the shift guts. If it is smooth, no rectangular
notches-1998. If it has those(for ERGOBRAIN), 1999.

Found this:

How can I recognize the 9s right-hand Ergopower from the 2001-2005 model?
The 9s right-hand Ergopower (2001-2005 range) has the "9speed" mark on the
body, the"new style" (rounded) body and it is ErgoBrain computer ready.

....which is what I seem to have.

Thanks

Basjan

Basjan said:

"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Basjan said:

Hi,

How does one pin down the model year of Campagnolo components? Are there
any
similar model numbers as is the case for Shimano components?

I have 9-speed ErgoPower levers, but with the new, rounded hood shape.
The
front derailleur has no (9-speed, 10-speed) markings except "Chorus", but
the whole groupset otherwise is for a 9-speed setup.

Thanks for any help!

Basjan

First year for rounded shape was 1998, first year for 10s was 2000 so
yours are 1998 or 1999. Take the back plastic cover off and look at the
metal plate covering the shift guts. If it is smooth, no rectangular
notches-1998. If it has those(for ERGOBRAIN), 1999.

Found this:

How can I recognize the 9s right-hand Ergopower from the 2001-2005 model?
The 9s right-hand Ergopower (2001-2005 range) has the "9speed" mark on the
body, the"new style" (rounded) body and it is ErgoBrain computer ready.

...which is what I seem to have.

Thanks

Basjan

2000 and later Record/Chorus 9s is very rare. 2004 Chorus was carbon
levered. So it's 1999, thru 2003..There are no real differences...so
tough to tell.

"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Basjan said:

"Qui si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Basjan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How does one pin down the model year of Campagnolo components? Are
> there
> any
> similar model numbers as is the case for Shimano components?
>
> I have 9-speed ErgoPower levers, but with the new, rounded hood shape.
> The
> front derailleur has no (9-speed, 10-speed) markings except "Chorus",
> but
> the whole groupset otherwise is for a 9-speed setup.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> Basjan

First year for rounded shape was 1998, first year for 10s was 2000 so
yours are 1998 or 1999. Take the back plastic cover off and look at the
metal plate covering the shift guts. If it is smooth, no rectangular
notches-1998. If it has those(for ERGOBRAIN), 1999.

Found this:

How can I recognize the 9s right-hand Ergopower from the 2001-2005
model?
The 9s right-hand Ergopower (2001-2005 range) has the "9speed" mark on
the
body, the"new style" (rounded) body and it is ErgoBrain computer ready.

...which is what I seem to have.

Thanks

Basjan

2000 and later Record/Chorus 9s is very rare. 2004 Chorus was carbon
levered. So it's 1999, thru 2003..There are no real differences...so
tough to tell.

From Campagnolo´s website it seems that the telling difference between
pre-2001 and 2001-2005, "rounded-hood" Chorus 9-speed ErgoPower is the
inclusion of the "9 SPEED" notation on the right hand shifter. Apparently
the post-1999, but pre-2001 9-speed stuff looks the same, except for this
small difference.

Basjan

Ozark Bicycle said:

That's unfortunate, but given the poor image triples have amongst the
racer/racer wannabe/fast-recreational-rider segment of the market it's
kinda understandable.

The campy racing triple was one of the best ideas that campy had about
12 yrs ago. Too bad is hasn't caught on, and people that would benefit
from them do not use them for the "image" factor.

I am on the heavy side and cannot spin 3+ teeth chainring on steep
hills. There is a training ride where a do about 10 different ten
minute climbs that are steep around my neighbourhood. With a double I
used to be able to do 5 or 6 at the most before I was wasted. Now, I
can easily do ten plus climbs.

Last year I was finishing a double metric century that ends in some
hills and rollers. I was riding with two other guys with doubles. On
the climbs I would get to spind while they were suffering to keep up. I
would slow down and wait for them. At the end of the ride the both
commented on what an obvious help the triple was. I bet that they still
have doubles in their bikes.

On training rides I usually end up picking and pushing cyclist that get
dropped up the hills who are a lot lighter than I am. I am the only
geek in the group that I ride that has a triple.

Andres

Meccanico di Bici said:

There is no great system, just have to know when Campy made changes to
logos and designs. e-mail [email hidden], he's a Campy (idiot?)
savant and loves to trace Campy lineage. I'm convinced he doesn't
sleep, just lays there and recites the Campy family tree to
himself..............

Wow.
Now I know why Michael asks "What are you talking about"?
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

richard said:

I have reason to believe my Chorus 9-spd are 1998 (because the 10-speed
parts I bought for conversion don't fit). The finger lever is a closed
paddle rather than having a cut-out in it. That might have been unique
to 1998 9-spd as well.

In 1998 Record had the cutout in the small paddle lever, both levers
aluminum. Chorus had the solid small paddle in 1998, both levers
aluminum. I have 1998 Chorus. Record and Chorus were both 9 speed of
course. In 1999, Record changed to carbon levers and the current black
look. 9 speed. Chorus stayed with aluminum levers but 1999 Chorus had
the cutout in the small paddle lever. 9 speed.

Quoted message said:

Basjan said:

Hi,

How does one pin down the model year of Campagnolo components? Are there any
similar model numbers as is the case for Shimano components?

I have 9-speed ErgoPower levers, but with the new, rounded hood shape. The
front derailleur has no (9-speed, 10-speed) markings except "Chorus", but
the whole groupset otherwise is for a 9-speed setup.

Thanks for any help!

Basjan