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  1. I found one site that said that but FitDay says that 1 cup of soybeans,
    mature, cooked, boiled has 15g fat, 29 g protein, 17g carb less 10 fiber,
    so only 7 g per cup. I figure that with the liquid and other contents a cup
    of cooked beans makes 1-1/2 cups of soup which is definitely an adequate
    serving. Same amount of navy beans, cooked, is 48 less 12, net 36, so there
    is quite a difference.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    | Yeah, I keep forgetting to keep the ham bone for stock to I make my LC
    | version of pea soup. :-)
    | Are you aware that the white (actually called yellow) soy beans have
    | a lot more net carbs than the black ones? They're 8g net carbs/half
    | cup. Black soy beans are the only LC beans. I bought some dried
    | white ones but haven't used them since I found that out.
    |
    | on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:01:01 GMT, "FOB" <[email hidden]>
    | wrote:
    |
    || Well, I made bean soup a couple of weeks ago and it wasn't that
    || hard. I had a ham bone from a ham we had been eating on for a few
    || days, I put it in a pot of water and boiled it for an hour or so,
    || took it out to cool, put in some more pieces of ham, a chopped onion
    || and some celery, some seasoning and some white soy beans that I had
    || soaked overnight. Got the remaining ham off the bone and threw it
    || in. Cooked for 2-3 hours more, it did take longer for the soy beans
    || than regular beans. It was delicious and indeed very filling, my SO
    || mentioned how filling he found it. I didn't skim any fat off but
    || there wasn't a whole lot as this was a fairly lean ham, one of the
    || spiral sliced hams from Costco.
    |
    | -----
    | Bev

  2. FOB said:

    I found one site that said that but FitDay says that 1 cup of soybeans,
    mature, cooked, boiled has 15g fat, 29 g protein, 17g carb less 10 fiber,
    so only 7 g per cup. I figure that with the liquid and other contents a cup
    of cooked beans makes 1-1/2 cups of soup which is definitely an adequate
    serving. Same amount of navy beans, cooked, is 48 less 12, net 36, so there
    is quite a difference.

    That's for regular yellow soy beans.

    For black soy beans, use the numbers from the Eden site. I spoke at some
    length with one of their people about the nutritional figures and how -
    on the can - they seem not to add up. She faxed me the raw numbers
    before they were rounded as the government demands. They're skewed by
    the rounding, but the carb count is accurate. Calorie count seems to
    include all carbs whether fiber or not. Labelling laws.
    <http://www.edenfoods.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21_32&products_id=103050>

    Pastorio

    Quoted message said:

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    | Yeah, I keep forgetting to keep the ham bone for stock to I make my LC
    | version of pea soup. :-)
    | Are you aware that the white (actually called yellow) soy beans have
    | a lot more net carbs than the black ones? They're 8g net carbs/half
    | cup. Black soy beans are the only LC beans. I bought some dried
    | white ones but haven't used them since I found that out.
    |
    | on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:01:01 GMT, "FOB" <[email hidden]>
    | wrote:
    |
    || Well, I made bean soup a couple of weeks ago and it wasn't that
    || hard. I had a ham bone from a ham we had been eating on for a few
    || days, I put it in a pot of water and boiled it for an hour or so,
    || took it out to cool, put in some more pieces of ham, a chopped onion
    || and some celery, some seasoning and some white soy beans that I had
    || soaked overnight. Got the remaining ham off the bone and threw it
    || in. Cooked for 2-3 hours more, it did take longer for the soy beans
    || than regular beans. It was delicious and indeed very filling, my SO
    || mentioned how filling he found it. I didn't skim any fat off but
    || there wasn't a whole lot as this was a fairly lean ham, one of the
    || spiral sliced hams from Costco.
    |
    | -----
    | Bev

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    FOB said:

    I found one site that said that but FitDay says that 1 cup of soybeans,
    mature, cooked, boiled has 15g fat, 29 g protein, 17g carb less 10 fiber,
    so only 7 g per cup. I figure that with the liquid and other contents a cup
    of cooked beans makes 1-1/2 cups of soup which is definitely an adequate
    serving. Same amount of navy beans, cooked, is 48 less 12, net 36, so there
    is quite a difference.

    Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)

    Tastier too IMHO.

    Check them out on the Eden Foods website!
    --
    Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  4. Yeah, I can't think of any reason to use the white ones when black are so
    readily available. I use them anywhere that kidney or regular black beans
    are called for. :-)

    OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)

    Tastier too IMHO.

    Check them out on the Eden Foods website!

    -----
    Bev

  5. The yellow ones were what I used.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bob (this one) <[email hidden]> stated
    | FOB wrote:
    |
    || I found one site that said that but FitDay says that 1 cup of
    || soybeans, mature, cooked, boiled has 15g fat, 29 g protein, 17g carb
    || less 10 fiber, so only 7 g per cup. I figure that with the liquid
    || and other contents a cup of cooked beans makes 1-1/2 cups of soup
    || which is definitely an adequate serving. Same amount of navy beans,
    || cooked, is 48 less 12, net 36, so there is quite a difference.
    |
    | That's for regular yellow soy beans.
    |
    | For black soy beans, use the numbers from the Eden site. I spoke at
    | some length with one of their people about the nutritional figures
    | and how - on the can - they seem not to add up. She faxed me the raw
    | numbers before they were rounded as the government demands. They're
    | skewed by the rounding, but the carb count is accurate. Calorie count
    | seems to include all carbs whether fiber or not. Labelling laws.
    |
    <http://www.edenfoods.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=21_32&products_id=103
    050>
    |
    | Pastorio
    |
    |

  6. I have used those and I also have some black dry ones. I just wanted to try
    the white ones.

    In news:[email hidden],
    OmManiPadmeOmelet <[email hidden]> stated
    | In article <[email hidden]>,
    | "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |
    || I found one site that said that but FitDay says that 1 cup of
    || soybeans, mature, cooked, boiled has 15g fat, 29 g protein, 17g carb
    || less 10 fiber, so only 7 g per cup. I figure that with the liquid
    || and other contents a cup of cooked beans makes 1-1/2 cups of soup
    || which is definitely an adequate serving. Same amount of navy beans,
    || cooked, is 48 less 12, net 36, so there is quite a difference.
    ||
    |
    | Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)
    |
    | Tastier too IMHO.
    |
    | Check them out on the Eden Foods website!
    | --
    | Om.
    |
    | "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack
    | Nicholson

  7. Because I like the way they look? They really did taste very good.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    | Yeah, I can't think of any reason to use the white ones when black
    | are so readily available. I use them anywhere that kidney or regular
    | black beans are called for. :-)
    |
    | on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:49:26 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    | <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |
    || Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)
    ||
    || Tastier too IMHO.
    ||
    || Check them out on the Eden Foods website!
    |
    | -----
    | Bev

  8. Obviously they weren't low carb.

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Because I like the way they look? They really did taste very good.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    | Yeah, I can't think of any reason to use the white ones when black
    | are so readily available. I use them anywhere that kidney or regular
    | black beans are called for. :-)
    |
    | on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:49:26 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    | <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |
    || Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)
    ||
    || Tastier too IMHO.
    ||
    || Check them out on the Eden Foods website!
    |
    | -----
    | Bev

  9. What, low carb things can't taste good?

    In news:[email hidden],
    JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    | Obviously they weren't low carb.
    |
    | --
    | Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    | MFW
    |
    |
    | "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    || Because I like the way they look? They really did taste very good.
    ||
    || In news:[email hidden],
    || Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    ||| Yeah, I can't think of any reason to use the white ones when black
    ||| are so readily available. I use them anywhere that kidney or
    ||| regular black beans are called for. :-)
    |||
    ||| on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:49:26 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    ||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |||
    |||| Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)
    ||||
    |||| Tastier too IMHO.
    ||||
    |||| Check them out on the Eden Foods website!
    |||
    ||| -----
    ||| Bev

  10. Is that your best leap of logic?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What, low carb things can't taste good?

    In news:[email hidden],
    JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    | Obviously they weren't low carb.
    |
    | --
    | Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    | MFW
    |
    |
    | "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    || Because I like the way they look? They really did taste very good.
    ||
    || In news:[email hidden],
    || Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    ||| Yeah, I can't think of any reason to use the white ones when black
    ||| are so readily available. I use them anywhere that kidney or
    ||| regular black beans are called for. :-)
    |||
    ||| on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:49:26 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    ||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |||
    |||| Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)
    ||||
    |||| Tastier too IMHO.
    ||||
    |||| Check them out on the Eden Foods website!
    |||
    ||| -----
    ||| Bev

  11. Not a problem. I just wanted to make sure you knew they weren't as LC as
    the black ones. Some people might assume that all soy beans are LC. If
    you enjoy them, go for it! :-)

    on Tue, 12 Jul 2005 01:39:05 GMT, "FOB" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Because I like the way they look? They really did taste very good.

    -----
    Bev

  12. Well, I said they tasted good, you said they weren't low carb, so I conclude
    that you must think things can't be low carb if they taste good. There is
    considerable discussion in this thread about the degree of low carbness of
    light and dark soybeans, the white or yellow ones are a bit less low than
    the black ones but still low enough to fit in most people's carb limit.

    In news:[email hidden],
    JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    | Is that your best leap of logic?
    |
    | --
    | Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    | MFW
    |
    |
    | "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    || What, low carb things can't taste good?
    ||
    || In news:[email hidden],
    || JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    ||| Obviously they weren't low carb.
    |||
    ||| --
    ||| Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that.
    ||| -- MFW
    |||
    |||
    ||| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ||| news:[email hidden]...
    |||| Because I like the way they look? They really did taste very good.
    ||||
    |||| In news:[email hidden],
    |||| Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    ||||| Yeah, I can't think of any reason to use the white ones when black
    ||||| are so readily available. I use them anywhere that kidney or
    ||||| regular black beans are called for. :-)
    |||||
    ||||| on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:49:26 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    ||||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |||||
    |||||| Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)
    ||||||
    |||||| Tastier too IMHO.
    ||||||
    |||||| Check them out on the Eden Foods website!
    |||||
    ||||| -----
    ||||| Bev

  13. Who told you that beans were low carb in the first place?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, I said they tasted good, you said they weren't low carb, so I
    conclude
    that you must think things can't be low carb if they taste good. There
    is
    considerable discussion in this thread about the degree of low carbness of
    light and dark soybeans, the white or yellow ones are a bit less low than
    the black ones but still low enough to fit in most people's carb limit.

    In news:[email hidden],
    JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    | Is that your best leap of logic?
    |
    | --
    | Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    | MFW
    |
    |
    | "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    || What, low carb things can't taste good?
    ||
    || In news:[email hidden],
    || JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    ||| Obviously they weren't low carb.
    |||
    ||| --
    ||| Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that.
    ||| -- MFW
    |||
    |||
    ||| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ||| news:[email hidden]...
    |||| Because I like the way they look? They really did taste very good.
    ||||
    |||| In news:[email hidden],
    |||| Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    ||||| Yeah, I can't think of any reason to use the white ones when black
    ||||| are so readily available. I use them anywhere that kidney or
    ||||| regular black beans are called for. :-)
    |||||
    ||||| on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:49:26 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    ||||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |||||
    |||||| Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)
    ||||||
    |||||| Tastier too IMHO.
    ||||||
    |||||| Check them out on the Eden Foods website!
    |||||
    ||||| -----
    ||||| Bev

  14. JC Der Koenig said:

    Who told you that beans were low carb in the first place?

    I believe that would be me, among others.

    Black soy beans. No others are that low. Figure about 2 gms carb in a
    cup of cooked beans.

    Pastorio

  15. "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    Who told you that beans were low carb in the first place?

    I believe that would be me, among others.

    Black soy beans. No others are that low. Figure about 2 gms carb in a cup
    of cooked beans.

    But the white ones are so pretty.

    You must have confused her somehow. It's your fault.

  16. This one kind of bean is low-carb. What, are you gonna tell people not
    to even eat naturally occurring low-carb foods now? Should you stop
    eating your almonds just because some nuts aren't low-carb?

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Who told you that beans were low carb in the first place?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, I said they tasted good, you said they weren't low carb, so I
    conclude
    that you must think things can't be low carb if they taste good. There
    is
    considerable discussion in this thread about the degree of low carbness of
    light and dark soybeans, the white or yellow ones are a bit less low than
    the black ones but still low enough to fit in most people's carb limit.

    In news:[email hidden],
    JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    | Is that your best leap of logic?
    |
    | --
    | Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    | MFW
    |
    |
    | "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    || What, low carb things can't taste good?
    ||
    || In news:[email hidden],
    || JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    ||| Obviously they weren't low carb.
    |||
    ||| --
    ||| Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that.
    ||| -- MFW
    |||
    |||
    ||| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ||| news:[email hidden]...
    |||| Because I like the way they look? They really did taste very good.
    ||||
    |||| In news:[email hidden],
    |||| Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    ||||| Yeah, I can't think of any reason to use the white ones when black
    ||||| are so readily available. I use them anywhere that kidney or
    ||||| regular black beans are called for. :-)
    |||||
    ||||| on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:49:26 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    ||||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |||||
    |||||| Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)
    ||||||
    |||||| Tastier too IMHO.
    ||||||
    |||||| Check them out on the Eden Foods website!
    |||||
    ||||| -----
    ||||| Bev

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  17. Was she eating black ones or white ones?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This one kind of bean is low-carb. What, are you gonna tell people not
    to even eat naturally occurring low-carb foods now? Should you stop
    eating your almonds just because some nuts aren't low-carb?

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Who told you that beans were low carb in the first place?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, I said they tasted good, you said they weren't low carb, so I
    conclude
    that you must think things can't be low carb if they taste good.
    There
    is
    considerable discussion in this thread about the degree of low carbness
    of
    light and dark soybeans, the white or yellow ones are a bit less low
    than
    the black ones but still low enough to fit in most people's carb limit.

    In news:[email hidden],
    JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    | Is that your best leap of logic?
    |
    | --
    | Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    | MFW
    |
    |
    | "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    | news:[email hidden]...
    || What, low carb things can't taste good?
    ||
    || In news:[email hidden],
    || JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    ||| Obviously they weren't low carb.
    |||
    ||| --
    ||| Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that.
    ||| -- MFW
    |||
    |||
    ||| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ||| news:[email hidden]...
    |||| Because I like the way they look? They really did taste very
    good.
    ||||
    |||| In news:[email hidden],
    |||| Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    ||||| Yeah, I can't think of any reason to use the white ones when
    black
    ||||| are so readily available. I use them anywhere that kidney or
    ||||| regular black beans are called for. :-)
    |||||
    ||||| on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:49:26 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    ||||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
    |||||
    |||||| Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)
    ||||||
    |||||| Tastier too IMHO.
    ||||||
    |||||| Check them out on the Eden Foods website!
    |||||
    ||||| -----
    ||||| Bev

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  18. White ones I think. I don't know how low-carb they are.

    I haven't been able to find nutritional information on soybeans by
    color. I found that a cup of "mature" soybeans has around 7g net carbs
    when you subtract 10g fiber, they have 28g protein, and 15g fat. I
    don't know if the "mature" ones are white or black. Whichever these
    ones are, having more fiber than other carbs, and having twice as much
    fat as carbs, and having 4 times more protein than carbs, I'd say they
    look like a good fit for low-carb living. But I can't stand beans.
    They're like little bags of kindergarten paste with a skin around 'em.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Was she eating black ones or white ones?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This one kind of bean is low-carb. What, are you gonna tell people not
    to even eat naturally occurring low-carb foods now? Should you stop
    eating your almonds just because some nuts aren't low-carb?

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    JC Der Koenig said:

    Who told you that beans were low carb in the first place?

    --
    Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

    "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > Well, I said they tasted good, you said they weren't low carb, so I
    > conclude
    > that you must think things can't be low carb if they taste good.
    > There
    > is
    > considerable discussion in this thread about the degree of low carbness
    > of
    > light and dark soybeans, the white or yellow ones are a bit less low
    > than
    > the black ones but still low enough to fit in most people's carb limit.
    >
    > In news:[email hidden],
    > JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    > | Is that your best leap of logic?
    > |
    > | --
    > | Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. --
    > | MFW
    > |
    > |
    > | "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > | news:[email hidden]...
    > || What, low carb things can't taste good?
    > ||
    > || In news:[email hidden],
    > || JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
    > ||| Obviously they weren't low carb.
    > |||
    > ||| --
    > ||| Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that.
    > ||| -- MFW
    > |||
    > |||
    > ||| "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > ||| news:[email hidden]...
    > |||| Because I like the way they look? They really did taste very
    > good.
    > ||||
    > |||| In news:[email hidden],
    > |||| Bev-Ann <[email hidden]> stated
    > ||||| Yeah, I can't think of any reason to use the white ones when
    > black
    > ||||| are so readily available. I use them anywhere that kidney or
    > ||||| regular black beans are called for. :-)
    > |||||
    > ||||| on Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:49:26 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
    > ||||| <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > |||||
    > |||||| Black soy beans are even lower than white soy beans. :-)
    > ||||||
    > |||||| Tastier too IMHO.
    > ||||||
    > |||||| Check them out on the Eden Foods website!
    > |||||
    > ||||| -----
    > ||||| Bev
    >
    >

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

    --
    http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

  19. Luna said:

    I haven't been able to find nutritional information on soybeans by
    color. I found that a cup of "mature" soybeans has around 7g net carbs
    when you subtract 10g fiber, they have 28g protein, and 15g fat. I
    don't know if the "mature" ones are white or black.

    The figures you give here are for white (or yellow) ones.

    Quoted message said:

    Whichever these
    ones are, having more fiber than other carbs, and having twice as much
    fat as carbs, and having 4 times more protein than carbs, I'd say they
    look like a good fit for low-carb living. But I can't stand beans.

    And they don't like you, either.

    Quoted message said:

    They're like little bags of kindergarten paste with a skin around 'em.

    Actually, soy beans don't get like that. They stay more firm. But that's
    why they don't like you. Because you say hurtful things like that.
    Spose you were a soybean and somebody said that about you.

    See...?

    Pastorio

  20. JC Der Koenig said:

    "Bob (this one)" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    JC Der Koenig said:

    Who told you that beans were low carb in the first place?

    I believe that would be me, among others.

    Black soy beans. No others are that low. Figure about 2 gms carb in a cup
    of cooked beans.

    But the white ones are so pretty.

    You must have confused her somehow. It's your fault.

    It's what I live for.

    Pastorio

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