I broke a front wheel spoke two days ago (errant cargo in wheel) and the occasional slapping sound reminds me of "tied/soldered spokes won't foul on the fork when broken".
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Since it hasn't caught on anything and doesn't look like it will, I wonder how great a 'problem' broken flapping spokes really are. I can't recall seeing a wheel actually stopped by a broken spoke. Anyone here have experience with that?
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Of the half dozen to a dozen spokes that broke on my bike over the years, I only remember one that flapped loose. I don't remember the details, but I did have to stop and bend it around the remaining spokes to get home.
How long have you been riding a high wheeler with 3mm diameter black radial spokes with threads at both ends? I assume you cite your experience because it applies to such a bicycle.
I broke a front wheel spoke two days ago (errant cargo in wheel) and the occasional slapping sound reminds me of "tied/soldered spokes won't foul on the fork when broken".
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Since it hasn't caught on anything and doesn't look like it will, I wonder how great a 'problem' broken flapping spokes really are. I can't recall seeing a wheel actually stopped by a broken spoke. Anyone here have experience with that?
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Of the half dozen to a dozen spokes that broke on my bike over the years, I only remember one that flapped loose. I don't remember the details, but I did have to stop and bend it around the remaining spokes to get home.
How long have you been riding a high wheeler with 3mm diameter black radial spokes with threads at both ends? I assume you cite your experience because it applies to such a bicycle.
Jobst Brandt
Dear Jobst,
Er, how long have _you_ been riding a high wheeler?
> I broke a front wheel spoke two days ago (errant cargo in wheel) > and the occasional slapping sound reminds me of "tied/soldered > spokes won't foul on the fork when broken".
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> Since it hasn't caught on anything and doesn't look like it will, > I wonder how great a 'problem' broken flapping spokes really > are. I can't recall seeing a wheel actually stopped by a broken > spoke. Anyone here have experience with that?
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Of the half dozen to a dozen spokes that broke on my bike over the years, I only remember one that flapped loose. I don't remember the details, but I did have to stop and bend it around the remaining spokes to get home.
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How long have you been riding a high wheeler with 3mm diameter black radial spokes with threads at both ends? I assume you cite your experience because it applies to such a bicycle.
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Er, how long have _you_ been riding a high wheeler?
Never, but I don't suggest that spokes of a high wheeler cannot toss a rider off the bicycle when they break. In the years I have worked with spokes I have seen spoke break at the hub and the treads and I have seen spokes get into the gear cluster after breaking.
I think you should re-read the above and see that there is no value to someone saying they never broke a spoke that could tangle the wheel and therefore, tying spokes had no connection with that.
>> I broke a front wheel spoke two days ago (errant cargo in wheel) >> and the occasional slapping sound reminds me of "tied/soldered >> spokes won't foul on the fork when broken".
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>> Since it hasn't caught on anything and doesn't look like it will, >> I wonder how great a 'problem' broken flapping spokes really >> are. I can't recall seeing a wheel actually stopped by a broken >> spoke. Anyone here have experience with that?
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> Of the half dozen to a dozen spokes that broke on my bike over the > years, I only remember one that flapped loose. I don't remember > the details, but I did have to stop and bend it around the > remaining spokes to get home.
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How long have you been riding a high wheeler with 3mm diameter black radial spokes with threads at both ends? I assume you cite your experience because it applies to such a bicycle.
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Carl Fogel said:
Er, how long have _you_ been riding a high wheeler?
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Never, but I don't suggest that spokes of a high wheeler cannot toss a rider off the bicycle when they break. In the years I have worked with spokes I have seen spoke break at the hub and the treads and I have seen spokes get into the gear cluster after breaking. I think you should re-read the above and see that there is no value to someone saying they never broke a spoke that could tangle the wheel and therefore, tying spokes had no connection with that.
I simply noticed that for several days I heard the occasional sound of the broken spoke slapping the inside of my fork blade. I began to wonder how or on what it could catch solidly enough to stop a wheel. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>> I broke a front wheel spoke two days ago (errant cargo in >>>> wheel) and the occasional slapping sound reminds me of >>>> "tied/soldered spokes won't foul on the fork when broken".
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>>>> Since it hasn't caught on anything and doesn't look like it >>>> will, I wonder how great a 'problem' broken flapping spokes >>>> really are. I can't recall seeing a wheel actually stopped by a >>>> broken spoke. Anyone here have experience with that?
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>>> Of the half dozen to a dozen spokes that broke on my bike over >>> the years, I only remember one that flapped loose. I don't >>> remember the details, but I did have to stop and bend it around >>> the remaining spokes to get home.
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>> How long have you been riding a high wheeler with 3mm diameter >> black radial spokes with threads at both ends? I assume you cite >> your experience because it applies to such a bicycle.
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> Er, how long have _you_ been riding a high wheeler?
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Never, but I don't suggest that spokes of a high wheeler cannot toss a rider off the bicycle when they break. In the years I have worked with spokes I have seen spoke break at the hub and the treads and I have seen spokes get into the gear cluster after breaking.
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Er, normal highwheelers lacked gears.
Oh [censored]. My example was given to make clear that spokes can break, swing out to the side and get tangled in the frame, fork or other components. It was not a comment on gearing on high wheelers.
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And you're making a suggestion with your usual dogmatic attitude about a kind of bicycle with which you have no experience.
I see one daily here in Palo Alto and the bicycle shop has one on display (for sale). The Zweiradsmuseum in Neckarsulm (D) has plenty of them in original form, not replicas. It is easy to inspect them.
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Dear Jobst,
Er, I wrote:
"Er, how long have _you_ been riding a high wheeler?"
